Mercedes-Benz to introduce acceleration subscription fee

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11/29/2022 4:06pm

Doesn't KTM have some features on their High-Dollar ADVs that you have to pay a fee -after you buy the bike- to unlock and use...?

Fuuuuuuuuck that. 

I've listened to presentations where they try to justify this shit: not having it. 

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11/29/2022 4:33pm
TeamGreen wrote:
Doesn't KTM have some features on their High-Dollar ADVs that you have to pay a fee -after you buy the bike- to unlock and use...? Fuuuuuuuuck...

Doesn't KTM have some features on their High-Dollar ADVs that you have to pay a fee -after you buy the bike- to unlock and use...?

Fuuuuuuuuck that. 

I've listened to presentations where they try to justify this shit: not having it. 

Seems a bit presumptious of them considering the reliability issues they are already dealing with. 

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11/29/2022 4:37pm

I don't doubt that some aftermarket company will come around and offer a fix. Still, that probably voids your warranty or some shit. 

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11/29/2022 5:24pm
TeamGreen wrote:
Doesn't KTM have some features on their High-Dollar ADVs that you have to pay a fee -after you buy the bike- to unlock and use...? Fuuuuuuuuck...

Doesn't KTM have some features on their High-Dollar ADVs that you have to pay a fee -after you buy the bike- to unlock and use...?

Fuuuuuuuuck that. 

I've listened to presentations where they try to justify this shit: not having it. 

Yes, they have a demo mode so it’s free initially, and then if you liked the features and want them to continue working you have to pay the monthly fee.

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11/30/2022 10:16am

Subscription Fee's, no different than Streaming Fee's.  Seems the same with all the manufacturing equipment I purchase these days.  Daily downloads, WiFi dongles, and the yearly maintenance agreements I have to subscribe to in order to keep it all updated.  It's true, you're not purchasing capital anymore, you're just renting it.      

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11/30/2022 10:34am

It’s such bullshit. 

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11/30/2022 10:37am
whyZ wrote:
Subscription Fee's, no different than Streaming Fee's.  Seems the same with all the manufacturing equipment I purchase these days.  Daily downloads, WiFi dongles, and the yearly...

Subscription Fee's, no different than Streaming Fee's.  Seems the same with all the manufacturing equipment I purchase these days.  Daily downloads, WiFi dongles, and the yearly maintenance agreements I have to subscribe to in order to keep it all updated.  It's true, you're not purchasing capital anymore, you're just renting it.      

It's one thing if you are subscribing for access to a catalog like streaming music or video, but not being able to just buy hardware and software to use really sucks. The software thing is to cut down on bootlegging but the hardware stuff is frustrating as all hell.

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11/30/2022 4:48pm

The software thing is to cut down on bootlegging but the hardware stuff is frustrating as all hell.

 

Not only bootlegging, but also support. 

See CAD software if you're still unsure what I mean.

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11/30/2022 4:57pm
SEEMEFIRST wrote:
The software thing is to cut down on bootlegging but the hardware stuff is frustrating as all hell.   Not only bootlegging, but also support.  See...

The software thing is to cut down on bootlegging but the hardware stuff is frustrating as all hell.

 

Not only bootlegging, but also support. 

See CAD software if you're still unsure what I mean.

Inventor 23 got a big update and it's worse than New Vital Grinning

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11/30/2022 5:18pm Edited Date/Time 11/30/2022 5:26pm
SEEMEFIRST wrote:
The software thing is to cut down on bootlegging but the hardware stuff is frustrating as all hell.   Not only bootlegging, but also support.  See...

The software thing is to cut down on bootlegging but the hardware stuff is frustrating as all hell.

 

Not only bootlegging, but also support. 

See CAD software if you're still unsure what I mean.

early wrote:
Inventor 23 got a big update and it's worse than New Vital 

Inventor 23 got a big update and it's worse than New Vital Grinning

I thought you knew from previous conversations. 

Yeah...

"We rolled out a new version, and you can now trim all lines with ONE click. Of course we moved everything around and changed the icons, but how about that trim feature, huh?"

Thanks, pal. Now I have to relearn something that I could fly on, but still get drawings from customers in corel.

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11/30/2022 5:27pm
SEEMEFIRST wrote:
The software thing is to cut down on bootlegging but the hardware stuff is frustrating as all hell.   Not only bootlegging, but also support.  See...

The software thing is to cut down on bootlegging but the hardware stuff is frustrating as all hell.

 

Not only bootlegging, but also support. 

See CAD software if you're still unsure what I mean.

early wrote:
Inventor 23 got a big update and it's worse than New Vital 

Inventor 23 got a big update and it's worse than New Vital Grinning

SEEMEFIRST wrote:
I thought you knew from previous conversations.  Yeah... "We rolled out a new version, and you can now trim all lines with ONE click. Of course...

I thought you knew from previous conversations. 

Yeah...

"We rolled out a new version, and you can now trim all lines with ONE click. Of course we moved everything around and changed the icons, but how about that trim feature, huh?"

Thanks, pal. Now I have to relearn something that I could fly on, but still get drawings from customers in corel.

You mean you don't want it to crash when you save large assemblies?

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early wrote:
Inventor 23 got a big update and it's worse than New Vital 

Inventor 23 got a big update and it's worse than New Vital Grinning

SEEMEFIRST wrote:
I thought you knew from previous conversations.  Yeah... "We rolled out a new version, and you can now trim all lines with ONE click. Of course...

I thought you knew from previous conversations. 

Yeah...

"We rolled out a new version, and you can now trim all lines with ONE click. Of course we moved everything around and changed the icons, but how about that trim feature, huh?"

Thanks, pal. Now I have to relearn something that I could fly on, but still get drawings from customers in corel.

early wrote:

You mean you don't want it to crash when you save large assemblies?

Uuuuhhhh....

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I got a file from a customer,  back in Mastercam 7 days?

For a Coke display I was making. It was an ice cube sent in Corel. 7,000 surfaces, and it was smaller than a racquetball. 

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