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Someone asked me on IG who else won SX/MX/MXDN the same year like Eli did... Thought it was an interesting question so I went to work... Here they are:
David Bailey in 1983.
Jeff Ward in 1985.
Ricky Johnson in 1986.
Ricky Johnson in 1988 (AMA MX 500)
Jeff Stanton in 1989/1990
Ricky Carmichael in 2005
Ryan Dungey in 2010
Ryan Villopoto in 2011
David Bailey in 1983.
Jeff Ward in 1985.
Ricky Johnson in 1986.
Ricky Johnson in 1988 (AMA MX 500)
Jeff Stanton in 1989/1990
Ricky Carmichael in 2005
Ryan Dungey in 2010
Ryan Villopoto in 2011
DV, after this season and now the Chamberlain trophy in his bag, where do you rank Eli all time?
You could argue putting RJ/Wardy/Stanton in there but they had 2 chances a season to win a MX title racing 250 & 500, Eli only had 1. I'm confident with 2nd US MX all time for Eli
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Now if he goes to P2 in all time SX wins next year and adds a 3rd SX title, does he get a spot on Mt. Rushmore?
His perspective and “no b.s.” approach to everything from
Attacking the Whoops to dealing with “But, what if you’re wrong?” is simply…
Le Meilleur.
But Eli doesn’t have the option
I was asking the same question in another thread. Very small list of riders, but even smaller when you factor in how the outdoor championship has changed. Up until 1986, riders had to pick either the 500 or 250 class. For a while, the 500 class was the premier one, so let's break them down.
1983 and 1985. Bailey and Ward won the 250 supercross and 250 outdoor title, but Broc Glover won the 500 outdoor title in 83 and 85 and . It's arguable that, in those days, the 500 class was still considered the premier class, but given that riders had to pick either 500 or 250 (they ran concurrently all year in 1983). Some would say this doesn't count but I say it counts for Bailey and Ward.
In 1986 came the production rule and big changes to the outdoors. Now the 250s would run the first half of the series and the 500s the second, so a premier class rider had a shot at 2 outdoor titles. That's is obviously not the same as winning a 12 round series, so for it to count the same as winning one of today's premier titles, you really need to look at how that rider did at all outdoor rounds combined.
In 1986, Johnson won the 250 class and came second to Bailey in the 500s, but he won the 250s by 46 points and lost the 500s by 6, so over the 12 rounds he still scored the most points, and won the SX and MXoN, so 1986 counts for Johnson.
In 1988, Johnson won 250 SX and 500 Motocross, but finished second to Jeff ward. RJ won the 500s by 24 points and lost in the 250 class by 7 points so, same as 1986, this counts. 2X triple crown for RJ.
1989, Stanton won the 250 SX title but swapped motocross titles with Jeff Ward. He beat Wardy in 250s by 16 points, but lost the 500 title to Wardy by 21. So technically, 1989's overall outdoor title would've gone to Wardy and not Stanton.
1990 is the same story as 1989, just a different points spread.
SOOO, comparing apples to apples, RJ is a badass with 2 triple crowns, and I would give Bailey and Ward one as well, but Stanton wouldn't have done if in a combined 12-round outdoor series (hurst me to type this because I love 6-Time).
Technically, on even terms, 7 riders have a true claim to this. Bailey, Ward, RJ, RC, RV, Dungey and Tomac. If you're really stingy about comparing only the true premier class, then it's 5 riders.
Jeff Ward and Ryan Dungey are the only 2 to do this in their rookie years.
Winning on a yz490 vs the factory Hondas of the day should mean something too
How many other riders have made mxon their first ever 450 race and won that individual class?
That is the best season in the history of moto.
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I was bummed when I heard ET3 was not racing outdoor next season but now that he has his MXoN title, I think he should go out at Champion. The bummer is for Star Racing to not run the #1 plate two years in a row
2001 - 9/11 kept USA from MXDN
2002 - Competition Park fiasco means no MXDN
2003 - won the individual but Lost MXDN when Ferry got injured and Ryno lost a chain. Didn’t send our best three guys (stew and Kdub stayed home)
2005 - won all three
2006 - hurt his shoulder at the last national and missed MXDN
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