Clement Desalle @ Washougal

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Motodude wrote:
top 5 if he isnt put on a shit bike.
Looks like he had a good bike...
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Looks like he had a good bike...
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So the 4th rider in the GP MX1 standings is coming all the way across the pond. Where do you think he will fit? Like DeReuver...
So the 4th rider in the GP MX1 standings is coming all the way across the pond. Where do you think he will fit? Like DeReuver top 5 speed but will struggle to adapt to the pace? Top10 material?

He's doing it as a privateer with some of his team's parts. But on a 450F that shouldn't be a huge disadvantage against the factory riders.

I reckon one heat in top 5 and one top 10. He's a fighter so expect him to make a late charge.

Hey, if you're making "DeSalle" plural, it's "DeSalles".

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7/28/2009 5:56am
Motodude wrote:
top 5 if he isnt put on a shit bike.
Looks like he had a good bike...
Thats a relief, seriously, when Euro's go there for a one-off mid season race they dont usually get to ride an 'up to sratch' bike. You done yerselves proud, as a fan I appreciate it. Smile

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7/28/2009 6:56am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 1:10am
I'm with Paul MD on this one: According to the AMA official I spoke with, when they tore #463 down after the race (he was in a random lot of six 450 riders, along with Reed, Grant, J-Law, Hahn and Browne, plus six 250 guys) they found Clement's engine to be "bone stock." He got it through Dirt Lab and Ryan Clark, who is a top-shelf guy all-around. He was on a decent bike, but a mostly stock one.


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And far ahead of the factory Honda guys!
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7/28/2009 7:27am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 1:10am
Rangot,


Don't forget that Tedesco never made it out of the second turn without crashing in either moto, and Millsaps went down with him in the first moto. At the end of the first lap, Millsaps was 36th, Tedesco 38th. It's hard to compare them when that happens, just as Clement went down a bunch of times in the second moto.


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I know, just a joke to kind of start a good ol' US vs THEM war! If only euros could do two motos in the US, we could brag. Damned one moto format we have here!
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Still, i think Desalle would be factory rider material over there. Fast, smart and in shape. Too bad those belgians don't know a thing about SX. I am so glad to be French. (Just kidding, guys, chill out).
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You guys aren't going to let Andy Bowyer live that down, are you?!

Look for a short film on Clement coming up tomorrow, hopefully.
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Great! Looking forward to it! Keep up the good job, and long live AMA MX. Oh, i almost forgot : Go CP!!!!!
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7/28/2009 8:58am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 1:10am
Clément Desalle

”To ride in the US for the first time was really a big thing for me so it was very cool to be on the podium! Racing in Washougal was a great experience, and the weather was very hot but I felt quite strong actually. Away from the bike it was also a little bit stressful and overall the result coud have been better. We had quite a lot of trouble with setting up the bike and I had some bad luck in the second moto. Still I wanted to continue after the crash I had, but I suffered some technical problems and couldn’t push like I wanted to. I know I can do more when I arrive better prepared.”

If he was on the bike he raced at the GPs he may ahve won! imnpressive ride from Desalle its shows the depth of the GPs right now

Would stewart have went to a GP on a borrowed stock bike with suspenaion and exhaust in a private yamaha team? I dont think so.
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mccread wrote:
Clément Desalle ”To ride in the US for the first time was really a big thing for me so it was very cool to be on...
Clément Desalle

”To ride in the US for the first time was really a big thing for me so it was very cool to be on the podium! Racing in Washougal was a great experience, and the weather was very hot but I felt quite strong actually. Away from the bike it was also a little bit stressful and overall the result coud have been better. We had quite a lot of trouble with setting up the bike and I had some bad luck in the second moto. Still I wanted to continue after the crash I had, but I suffered some technical problems and couldn’t push like I wanted to. I know I can do more when I arrive better prepared.”

If he was on the bike he raced at the GPs he may ahve won! imnpressive ride from Desalle its shows the depth of the GPs right now

Would stewart have went to a GP on a borrowed stock bike with suspenaion and exhaust in a private yamaha team? I dont think so.
Maybe I spoke too soon about his bike being ok. You'll NEVER see a top US rider do what Desalle did. So I was right, he was given a shit bog stock bike.


Another Euro getting baited away to drain the GP talent pool. DONT QUIT the GP's Clement, take a look at BT and crew and how their careers are ruined now from getting sucked in by the US dream!
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Do u mean Townley and Ratters? And what u say about Pourcel, Searle?????
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mccread wrote:
Clément Desalle ”To ride in the US for the first time was really a big thing for me so it was very cool to be on...
Clément Desalle

”To ride in the US for the first time was really a big thing for me so it was very cool to be on the podium! Racing in Washougal was a great experience, and the weather was very hot but I felt quite strong actually. Away from the bike it was also a little bit stressful and overall the result coud have been better. We had quite a lot of trouble with setting up the bike and I had some bad luck in the second moto. Still I wanted to continue after the crash I had, but I suffered some technical problems and couldn’t push like I wanted to. I know I can do more when I arrive better prepared.”

If he was on the bike he raced at the GPs he may ahve won! imnpressive ride from Desalle its shows the depth of the GPs right now

Would stewart have went to a GP on a borrowed stock bike with suspenaion and exhaust in a private yamaha team? I dont think so.
Motodude wrote:
Maybe I spoke too soon about his bike being ok. You'll NEVER see a top US rider do what Desalle did. So I was right, he...
Maybe I spoke too soon about his bike being ok. You'll NEVER see a top US rider do what Desalle did. So I was right, he was given a shit bog stock bike.


Another Euro getting baited away to drain the GP talent pool. DONT QUIT the GP's Clement, take a look at BT and crew and how their careers are ruined now from getting sucked in by the US dream!
Well, guys to clear up speculation Clement requested a stock based engine ( as he rides in the GP's) So he had a freshly rebuilt motor with his requested parts, not a clapped out practice bike. And by quite a lot of trouble setting up the bike I think you will find that Clement means building the bike Friday before tech as this was a last minute deal to get a Bike from our shop in Phoenix to Washougal. I had to ship the Motor in a cooler and bring the Frame, swingarm, wheels, airbox, and radiators in Gear bags and boxes on the plane.
The bike was built 30 minutes before Tech inspection closed on Friday afternoon, leaving no time for Clement to ride before Saturday Mornings timed Qualifiers. Which he took the fastest time....
Could the bike have been better? Of course, but with a weeks notice, and no seat time on the bike, I think it showed Clements and our determination to be on the Podium. It should be noted that no other Teams took the opportunity to work with this fast GP rider. We were torn down by AMA tech at the end of the moto's on Bore & Stroke which were found to be stock. I know the hard work and effort it took to Make it all happen.

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jo2910 wrote:
So the 4th rider in the GP MX1 standings is coming all the way across the pond. Where do you think he will fit? Like DeReuver...
So the 4th rider in the GP MX1 standings is coming all the way across the pond. Where do you think he will fit? Like DeReuver top 5 speed but will struggle to adapt to the pace? Top10 material?

He's doing it as a privateer with some of his team's parts. But on a 450F that shouldn't be a huge disadvantage against the factory riders.

I reckon one heat in top 5 and one top 10. He's a fighter so expect him to make a late charge.

Nerd wrote:
Hey, if you're making "DeSalle" plural, it's "DeSalles".

Smile

Get it right, Spammy McSpamalot.
Hey Nerd,
I believe to "Spamalot" I would have to write more than my first post. I suppose you are right about two things. . . my plural typo and that you are in fact a nerd.
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jo2910 wrote:
So the 4th rider in the GP MX1 standings is coming all the way across the pond. Where do you think he will fit? Like DeReuver...
So the 4th rider in the GP MX1 standings is coming all the way across the pond. Where do you think he will fit? Like DeReuver top 5 speed but will struggle to adapt to the pace? Top10 material?

He's doing it as a privateer with some of his team's parts. But on a 450F that shouldn't be a huge disadvantage against the factory riders.

I reckon one heat in top 5 and one top 10. He's a fighter so expect him to make a late charge.

Nerd wrote:
Hey, if you're making "DeSalle" plural, it's "DeSalles".

Smile

Get it right, Spammy McSpamalot.
Hey Nerd, I believe to "Spamalot" I would have to write more than my first post. I suppose you are right about two things. ....
Hey Nerd,
I believe to "Spamalot" I would have to write more than my first post. I suppose you are right about two things. . . my plural typo and that you are in fact a nerd.
Calm down, Mr. Staley.

Sheesh.
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Ha Ha, Figures! Send me those pics from Washougal!
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Ha Ha, Figures! Send me those pics from Washougal!
Okay.
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mccread wrote:
Clément Desalle ”To ride in the US for the first time was really a big thing for me so it was very cool to be on...
Clément Desalle

”To ride in the US for the first time was really a big thing for me so it was very cool to be on the podium! Racing in Washougal was a great experience, and the weather was very hot but I felt quite strong actually. Away from the bike it was also a little bit stressful and overall the result coud have been better. We had quite a lot of trouble with setting up the bike and I had some bad luck in the second moto. Still I wanted to continue after the crash I had, but I suffered some technical problems and couldn’t push like I wanted to. I know I can do more when I arrive better prepared.”

If he was on the bike he raced at the GPs he may ahve won! imnpressive ride from Desalle its shows the depth of the GPs right now

Would stewart have went to a GP on a borrowed stock bike with suspenaion and exhaust in a private yamaha team? I dont think so.
Motodude wrote:
Maybe I spoke too soon about his bike being ok. You'll NEVER see a top US rider do what Desalle did. So I was right, he...
Maybe I spoke too soon about his bike being ok. You'll NEVER see a top US rider do what Desalle did. So I was right, he was given a shit bog stock bike.


Another Euro getting baited away to drain the GP talent pool. DONT QUIT the GP's Clement, take a look at BT and crew and how their careers are ruined now from getting sucked in by the US dream!
" You'll NEVER see a top US rider do what Desalle did."


You’re right, because they don’t have to, they’re already here. So what’s your point?

If anything that should prove the age old debate over which one is the premier series in the world.

Paul

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yea the GPs are the premier series and thats the reason the top US guys couldnt do what the GP guys can do
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yea the GPs are the premier series and thats the reason the top US guys couldnt do what the GP guys can do
Uhhhhhhhhhh......come again? LOL
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Hey Paul, it's true. You'll never see an American come from Europe to race their first ever national in America.
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Hey Paul, it's true. You'll never see an American come from Europe to race their first ever national in America.
Now THAT'S funny Laughing
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7/28/2009 2:44pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 1:11am
Ah, the "we vs them" toad is still floating around it seems.


Pretty cool Clement rode a stock engine. Says a lot about the 450. I know there are people that needs big bore to manage their riding. LMAO!

Maybe this info can finally put a fork in this damn factory equipment hysteria that is always used to support someone's bs.
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7/28/2009 3:44pm Edited Date/Time 7/28/2009 3:47pm
mccread wrote:
Clément Desalle ”To ride in the US for the first time was really a big thing for me so it was very cool to be on...
Clément Desalle

”To ride in the US for the first time was really a big thing for me so it was very cool to be on the podium! Racing in Washougal was a great experience, and the weather was very hot but I felt quite strong actually. Away from the bike it was also a little bit stressful and overall the result coud have been better. We had quite a lot of trouble with setting up the bike and I had some bad luck in the second moto. Still I wanted to continue after the crash I had, but I suffered some technical problems and couldn’t push like I wanted to. I know I can do more when I arrive better prepared.”

If he was on the bike he raced at the GPs he may ahve won! imnpressive ride from Desalle its shows the depth of the GPs right now

Would stewart have went to a GP on a borrowed stock bike with suspenaion and exhaust in a private yamaha team? I dont think so.
Motodude wrote:
Maybe I spoke too soon about his bike being ok. You'll NEVER see a top US rider do what Desalle did. So I was right, he...
Maybe I spoke too soon about his bike being ok. You'll NEVER see a top US rider do what Desalle did. So I was right, he was given a shit bog stock bike.


Another Euro getting baited away to drain the GP talent pool. DONT QUIT the GP's Clement, take a look at BT and crew and how their careers are ruined now from getting sucked in by the US dream!
Well, guys to clear up speculation Clement requested a stock based engine ( as he rides in the GP's) So he had a freshly rebuilt motor...
Well, guys to clear up speculation Clement requested a stock based engine ( as he rides in the GP's) So he had a freshly rebuilt motor with his requested parts, not a clapped out practice bike. And by quite a lot of trouble setting up the bike I think you will find that Clement means building the bike Friday before tech as this was a last minute deal to get a Bike from our shop in Phoenix to Washougal. I had to ship the Motor in a cooler and bring the Frame, swingarm, wheels, airbox, and radiators in Gear bags and boxes on the plane.
The bike was built 30 minutes before Tech inspection closed on Friday afternoon, leaving no time for Clement to ride before Saturday Mornings timed Qualifiers. Which he took the fastest time....
Could the bike have been better? Of course, but with a weeks notice, and no seat time on the bike, I think it showed Clements and our determination to be on the Podium. It should be noted that no other Teams took the opportunity to work with this fast GP rider. We were torn down by AMA tech at the end of the moto's on Bore & Stroke which were found to be stock. I know the hard work and effort it took to Make it all happen.

Fair enough, thanks for the added info. Didnt we all know more than a week out before the event he would be there? I am assuming he wouldnt commit to a race without first securing a ride. At any rate you did a first class job backing him. Dont mind Nerd, his middle name is dik.
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Hey Paul, it's true. You'll never see an American come from Europe to race their first ever national in America.
I'm going to have some T shirts made for you nerdster.
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Thanks to everyone for your posting and contribution to this topic. Jesse and I both stand by the fact that we put every effort into making Clement as comfortable as we could given our lead time and resources. We had just over one week to put this effort together and Jesse, Jim Fiolek, Luke Frye, Scott Gilly (Factory FX), Kevin Fleming (FX), Tyler Vrba, Robbie Feder, Steven Stultz and many other people were instrumental in making this a reality.

To reiterate, we are very pleased with Clement and his accomplishments. He and his father were a pleasure to work with and we wish him all the best in the the remaining GP rounds.

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7/28/2009 9:06pm Edited Date/Time 7/28/2009 9:07pm
I'm pretty impressed by Desalle, It's not that easy switching bikes even if they're set up similar its not the same. He got hit pretty hard from the side in the 2nd moto start, otherwise he would've had another great finish.

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Desalle was impressive the first moto. What I noticed was that he seemed to ride a gear taller than everyone else, much like Pourcel does. At Washougal, where traction is hard to come by, that riding style really pays off. A stock 450 engine isn't a detriment at Washougal either, for the same reason.

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