Corporate sponsors. HELP !!!!

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Came across the total payout for the new LIV golf tournament from Bolton Massachusetts. 1st place $4million, 48th pl $120K. 1st place in SX gets $15k. So how do we up our game to draw more corporate sponsorships to the AMA to have larger payouts for our riders? subjects been around forever but when I read the golf article it seems like nothing is being done.
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quadzrulebro 9/5/2022 10:51am
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Find a way to make our sport popular with millions of wealthy old people with piles of disposable income.
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Hmmm. I’m thinking either Splitfire spark plugs or Great Western bank may be a good fit? Just spitballin’ here.
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Starving supercross racers need a bail out. Somebody turn the money printer back on.
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Isn’t the LiV golf thing sponsored by the Saudi’s? Why so many pros and golf companies didn’t join in.
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H.E.penyypacker432 9/5/2022 11:03am
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Isn’t the LiV golf thing sponsored by the Saudi’s? Why so many pros and golf companies didn’t join in.
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It will require making dangerous exclusions of rules. It will need to be raised to a level of ridiculousness like WWE. Its already seen as a spectacle sport, a extreme sport show with more skill than wrestling or monster truck, but the rules prevent it from being more than it is.

It should never be sold out to rich corporations who care nothing about the bottom line and not the riders. The rules would have to be laxed to allow vicious take outs, on track fights and a whole lot of "story lines" to further a team, rider or something like that.

I cant see it being more than it is right now without huge corporate sponsors. Tide is better than Ajax, or Coke is better than Pepsi, going back to the early 90s when teams had more corporate sponsors versus inter industry rides. I mean when it comes down to it, how many different manufactures have riders being sponsored by Red Bull? There is no blurring of lines.

But I think only more danger, more suspense will bring the industry up to that next level.....and then you wonder what will be real and faked.

Dungey had a great sponsorship with Target several years ago....I wished the Industry would have pushed that and gone after more outside company sponsorships.


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DirtRoadmx47 wrote:
Came across the total payout for the new LIV golf tournament from Bolton Massachusetts. 1st place $4million, 48th pl $120K. 1st place in SX gets $15k...
Came across the total payout for the new LIV golf tournament from Bolton Massachusetts. 1st place $4million, 48th pl $120K. 1st place in SX gets $15k. So how do we up our game to draw more corporate sponsorships to the AMA to have larger payouts for our riders? subjects been around forever but when I read the golf article it seems like nothing is being done.
Let the riders and teams worry about it maybe? Not sure why fans need to help try and find ways to fund a sport.
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H.E.penyypacker432 9/6/2022 4:01am
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WSX has proposed to pay more, yet a good chunk of the members of this forum want it to fail. Weird.
Because they’re actively trying to take down and compete with a staple series. Ever hear the goofy promoter talk? Dude acts like outdoor motocross has never existed. They’re also not giving money direct to riders, it goes to the teams and they pay out riders. Id love for WSX to work but outdoor motocross is simply better.
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H.E.penyypacker432 wrote:
Because they’re actively trying to take down and compete with a staple series. Ever hear the goofy promoter talk? Dude acts like outdoor motocross has never...
Because they’re actively trying to take down and compete with a staple series. Ever hear the goofy promoter talk? Dude acts like outdoor motocross has never existed. They’re also not giving money direct to riders, it goes to the teams and they pay out riders. Id love for WSX to work but outdoor motocross is simply better.
I know nothing about Golf, but isn't that what this new LIV thing is trying to do to whatever the old golf tour or whatever it is called? But as all the other threads have stated, competition can be good. Imagine if you had to buy gas from only one gas station how much that would be right now.
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LIV golf has already forced the hand of pga to pay there golfers higher salaries. From that perspective it’s good. As a fan of golf though the series is junk. It’s not real tournament golf. Just exhibition.
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Selling SX/MX to legit corporate sponsors is a hard sale. The sport simply doesn’t have the numbers required at any level and it’s not treated as a legitimate professional sport since the entrants pay to play and don’t really get paid back much.

It wouldn’t exist at the pro level without the manufacturers supporting it at every level all along.
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People complain about National tickets and SX tickets but then want this lol. We are a sport of blue collar workers going to races after leaving a construction site, they are a sport of lawyers and politicians. We are what we are, they are what they are. Stop trying to make it something it isn’t, they have advertisers that are high end fashion, our advertisers sell spark plugs and lawn mowers not Rolex
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Cygrace74 wrote:
People complain about National tickets and SX tickets but then want this lol. We are a sport of blue collar workers going to races after leaving...
People complain about National tickets and SX tickets but then want this lol. We are a sport of blue collar workers going to races after leaving a construction site, they are a sport of lawyers and politicians. We are what we are, they are what they are. Stop trying to make it something it isn’t, they have advertisers that are high end fashion, our advertisers sell spark plugs and lawn mowers not Rolex
Great summarization!
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Cygrace74 wrote:
People complain about National tickets and SX tickets but then want this lol. We are a sport of blue collar workers going to races after leaving...
People complain about National tickets and SX tickets but then want this lol. We are a sport of blue collar workers going to races after leaving a construction site, they are a sport of lawyers and politicians. We are what we are, they are what they are. Stop trying to make it something it isn’t, they have advertisers that are high end fashion, our advertisers sell spark plugs and lawn mowers not Rolex
This is a great summary. Be careful what you wish for as I don't think we want it that big. I would love to see riders make more, but that's up to them to draw the sponsors and show a return on investment. The top riders already make really good money, but 10th and below should for sure have the opportunity to make more. I am surprised cell phone companies and others have not joined SX and hoping the combined series and new TV package elevates that to an extent.
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8tensolutions wrote:
This is a great summary. Be careful what you wish for as I don't think we want it that big. I would love to see riders...
This is a great summary. Be careful what you wish for as I don't think we want it that big. I would love to see riders make more, but that's up to them to draw the sponsors and show a return on investment. The top riders already make really good money, but 10th and below should for sure have the opportunity to make more. I am surprised cell phone companies and others have not joined SX and hoping the combined series and new TV package elevates that to an extent.
Do you not remember Amp'd Mobile SX back before the Monster Energy SX days?
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Marketplace supply/demand

Having to pay to watch the races suppresses new viewership which suppresses new sponsors which suppresses new ad revenue which suppresses payouts
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DirtRoadmx47 wrote:
Came across the total payout for the new LIV golf tournament from Bolton Massachusetts. 1st place $4million, 48th pl $120K. 1st place in SX gets $15k...
Came across the total payout for the new LIV golf tournament from Bolton Massachusetts. 1st place $4million, 48th pl $120K. 1st place in SX gets $15k. So how do we up our game to draw more corporate sponsorships to the AMA to have larger payouts for our riders? subjects been around forever but when I read the golf article it seems like nothing is being done.
I would guess that most every household in my neighborhood has at least 1 or 2 sets of golf clubs in their garage but I think I know of only one other house with a MX bike, do the math.
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TeamGreen 9/6/2022 11:41am
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So, we need a Murderous Dictator to sponsor an alternative International SX Series?
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TeamGreen wrote:
So, we need a Murderous Dictator to sponsor an alternative International SX Series?
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I heard the North Koreans will be starting a series and Rodman will be the liaison.

First place $1M
Second place - you get to live
Third and below - a laser points at you and you don't want to know what happens next, but you won't hear it anyway
Just kidding, I thought it was cool Rodman was at Pala and knew as much as he did.
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TeamGreen wrote:
So, we need a Murderous Dictator to sponsor an alternative International SX Series?
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backinthesaddleagain wrote:
I heard the North Koreans will be starting a series and Rodman will be the liaison. First place $1M Second place - you get to live...
I heard the North Koreans will be starting a series and Rodman will be the liaison.

First place $1M
Second place - you get to live
Third and below - a laser points at you and you don't want to know what happens next, but you won't hear it anyway
Just kidding, I thought it was cool Rodman was at Pala and knew as much as he did.
He was prepped…
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TeamGreen wrote:
So, we need a Murderous Dictator to sponsor an alternative International SX Series?
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backinthesaddleagain wrote:
I heard the North Koreans will be starting a series and Rodman will be the liaison. First place $1M Second place - you get to live...
I heard the North Koreans will be starting a series and Rodman will be the liaison.

First place $1M
Second place - you get to live
Third and below - a laser points at you and you don't want to know what happens next, but you won't hear it anyway
Just kidding, I thought it was cool Rodman was at Pala and knew as much as he did.
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He was prepped…
I’m sure he was to some extent. But apparently he owned a couple bars in socal in the 90’s the riders would frequent and he knew who they were. He was also a big motorcycle guy (according to swap kickstart pod)
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LowCash wrote:
Marketplace supply/demand

Having to pay to watch the races suppresses new viewership which suppresses new sponsors which suppresses new ad revenue which suppresses payouts
I agree with you 100% but at least we don’t have regional blackouts like most sports networks do for streaming stick and ball sports.
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Bring back the 125 lower the cost of entry into the sport put more support into local tracks and grassroots racing. That's what generates fans.
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spimx wrote:
Bring back the 125 lower the cost of entry into the sport put more support into local tracks and grassroots racing. That's what generates fans.
That’s not going to happen. You have two OEMs that still make the 125s, the others won’t let it happen.
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Corey_Tallent wrote:
It will require making dangerous exclusions of rules. It will need to be raised to a level of ridiculousness like WWE. Its already seen as a...
It will require making dangerous exclusions of rules. It will need to be raised to a level of ridiculousness like WWE. Its already seen as a spectacle sport, a extreme sport show with more skill than wrestling or monster truck, but the rules prevent it from being more than it is.

It should never be sold out to rich corporations who care nothing about the bottom line and not the riders. The rules would have to be laxed to allow vicious take outs, on track fights and a whole lot of "story lines" to further a team, rider or something like that.

I cant see it being more than it is right now without huge corporate sponsors. Tide is better than Ajax, or Coke is better than Pepsi, going back to the early 90s when teams had more corporate sponsors versus inter industry rides. I mean when it comes down to it, how many different manufactures have riders being sponsored by Red Bull? There is no blurring of lines.

But I think only more danger, more suspense will bring the industry up to that next level.....and then you wonder what will be real and faked.

Dungey had a great sponsorship with Target several years ago....I wished the Industry would have pushed that and gone after more outside company sponsorships.


So is the new Liv golf series like a live action Happy Gilmore? Because that would be awesome. JACKASS.
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Hollywood009 9/7/2022 8:17am
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Big sponsors want to see a real TV deal

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