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[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/08/19/564655/s1200_FB_IMG_1660936425439.jpg[/img] This picture sure says a lot more about the truth of what went down doesn't it?


This picture sure says a lot more about the truth of what went down doesn't it?
FastEddy wrote:
Would be great if Roger & Ian hooked him up. Laughing
With a bike that they have been struggling with all year I really don't think Roger or Ian give a flying rats ass what happens with this kid.
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mcopsey wrote:
The only [b]FACT[/b] is that the dad had a conversation with the dealer and after he made Brennan pull the claim, everything else is conjecture and...
The only FACT is that the dad had a conversation with the dealer and after he made Brennan pull the claim, everything else is conjecture and hearsay. No one here knows what was said in the conversation between the dad and the dealer.
Magoofan wrote:
Dealer conversation = corporate strong-arm tactics. What do you think was said in that discussion with the Dad? It's pretty much like a body isn't needed...
Dealer conversation = corporate strong-arm tactics.

What do you think was said in that discussion with the Dad?

It's pretty much like a body isn't needed in a murder trial to prove guilt.
This is you guessing about what was said. Conversation doesn't equal corporate strong-arm tactics just because you think that's what happened.

I think his sponsored rider was trying to pull something he didn't know about and it pissed him off. From the dad's lack of participation in the claiming process, I'd guess he didn't know what was going on either. As a father there is no way I'd let my kid go through the claiming process without my involvement. The dad "went to get water" while his son was going to make the biggest news of LL, and anyone with a brain knew that is what would happen...right.
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[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/08/19/564655/s1200_FB_IMG_1660936425439.jpg[/img] This picture sure says a lot more about the truth of what went down doesn't it?


This picture sure says a lot more about the truth of what went down doesn't it?
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[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/08/19/564655/s1200_FB_IMG_1660936425439.jpg[/img] This picture sure says a lot more about the truth of what went down doesn't it?


This picture sure says a lot more about the truth of what went down doesn't it?
What does the picture "say"?

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[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/08/19/564655/s1200_FB_IMG_1660936425439.jpg[/img] This picture sure says a lot more about the truth of what went down doesn't it?


This picture sure says a lot more about the truth of what went down doesn't it?
What does the picture "say"?
to me it says he is no longer riding a blue bike. and now turning a page in his life. now that he has made himself an enemy of some his competition and a hero to the others, dare I say mx sports and the rest of the cuck mob. If BS has any hope of a career in this sport now, he will have to put on some stellar rides that put him above danger boy. if not, I would say it's kind of over after this. In a way he fucked himself though, then got fucked by all, Yamaha, Deegans, MX sports, sponsor, M walker, etc. sad really. ended up without the bike and possibly smoked his career.
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8/19/2022 4:03pm Edited Date/Time 8/19/2022 4:06pm
bad juju wrote:
to me it says he is no longer riding a blue bike. and now turning a page in his life. now that he has made himself...
to me it says he is no longer riding a blue bike. and now turning a page in his life. now that he has made himself an enemy of some his competition and a hero to the others, dare I say mx sports and the rest of the cuck mob. If BS has any hope of a career in this sport now, he will have to put on some stellar rides that put him above danger boy. if not, I would say it's kind of over after this. In a way he fucked himself though, then got fucked by all, Yamaha, Deegans, MX sports, sponsor, M walker, etc. sad really. ended up without the bike and possibly smoked his career.
If he sticks with a KTM.
Maybe once he turns pro KTM will invite him over to see how he does in the GP's. Cool
Then there's a lot of off season events across the pond too he could race.
Canadian nationals might also be an option.

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Been a long time listener too. The bias and acted stubbornness was entertaining.
I thought DV's constant interruptions during sponsors time was annoying...but then it hit me. Holly molly, A lot of gargling sponsors names and products.. I've slowly been accustomed to these regurgitations for years now.

Ask yourself, can Matthes truly explain what a GP vertex piston is? Am sure he cashes their checks tho.
And that damn neck brace/ airline commercial over and over.. Yet never seen him use one.

So sorry, making grown up, informed decisions here. Pulp used to be fun, there are some great episodes.

Over the years the lack of accurate or precise information regarding mechanical or factual details.. just winging over it like a salesperson who does not care but just wants to offload product .. and yet claiming the holly status of former mechanic to assert some kind of authority...
And sorry, the lack of research on topics. Seeing that other outlets can do the research while having real jobs.
No excuses there, unless your schtick is "entertainment " only.
Yet in the past , some exquisite pieces of investigative articles and journalism.

The recent events have transpired where the show stands.
It used to be the place against all odds where you could hear the unpopular truths. Blunt honesty and entertainment. Shooting the Sh*t.
I guess it's part of evolution, not being core anymore and paying for higher ceilings, while being " in" with the boys.

Best of luck to all. Everyone is entitled to their own life choices and beliefs.

For me It is a sad day and quite a loss in my small, niche sport/ entertainment. I miss the old Pulp. It has changed, and it is not working out anymore.

Very bad timing, as I was about to switch to blucru. That and hearing Keefer & crew, all that gargle... I want nothing to do with these guys and their " club" . This is not what I want to endorse, or support in any sort.

I do remember " let Brock Bye". Reason some of us were riding other colors for decades after.

Just my choice. Don't act as if we are imbeciles not seeing through your sh*t.




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Been a long time listener too. The bias and acted stubbornness was entertaining. I thought DV's constant interruptions during sponsors time was annoying...but then it hit...
Been a long time listener too. The bias and acted stubbornness was entertaining.
I thought DV's constant interruptions during sponsors time was annoying...but then it hit me. Holly molly, A lot of gargling sponsors names and products.. I've slowly been accustomed to these regurgitations for years now.

Ask yourself, can Matthes truly explain what a GP vertex piston is? Am sure he cashes their checks tho.
And that damn neck brace/ airline commercial over and over.. Yet never seen him use one.

So sorry, making grown up, informed decisions here. Pulp used to be fun, there are some great episodes.

Over the years the lack of accurate or precise information regarding mechanical or factual details.. just winging over it like a salesperson who does not care but just wants to offload product .. and yet claiming the holly status of former mechanic to assert some kind of authority...
And sorry, the lack of research on topics. Seeing that other outlets can do the research while having real jobs.
No excuses there, unless your schtick is "entertainment " only.
Yet in the past , some exquisite pieces of investigative articles and journalism.

The recent events have transpired where the show stands.
It used to be the place against all odds where you could hear the unpopular truths. Blunt honesty and entertainment. Shooting the Sh*t.
I guess it's part of evolution, not being core anymore and paying for higher ceilings, while being " in" with the boys.

Best of luck to all. Everyone is entitled to their own life choices and beliefs.

For me It is a sad day and quite a loss in my small, niche sport/ entertainment. I miss the old Pulp. It has changed, and it is not working out anymore.

Very bad timing, as I was about to switch to blucru. That and hearing Keefer & crew, all that gargle... I want nothing to do with these guys and their " club" . This is not what I want to endorse, or support in any sort.

I do remember " let Brock Bye". Reason some of us were riding other colors for decades after.

Just my choice. Don't act as if we are imbeciles not seeing through your sh*t.




Once Watson left the show was never the same IMO.
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8/19/2022 4:28pm Edited Date/Time 8/19/2022 5:01pm
I still don’t agree with all he’s saying here, e.g. Luce didn’t have to get involved, and there is no rule for Star and Deegan to protest the claim….but props to Matthes for admitting he could have handled things better.
Can we all move along now? There’s some awesome racing coming up, you know actual professionals…..


From this week’s Racerhead:

ONE MORE ON CLAIM-GATE (MATTHES)
Okay, so we had Donnie Luce from Yamaha on the PulpMX Show Monday night, and yeah, if my Twitter feed or Vital MX is to be trusted, I might have missed the mark on getting the info out about this whole Deegan claim thing. I mean, I think it was fine, and I'll explain it in more detail here in a bit, but there's more than a few people who didn't like the way I handled it, so maybe, well, they're right? It's not a vocal minority, that's for sure. Here's where I was coming from: Donnie didn't start this thing; he was dragged into it when Star Yamaha and Brian Deegan were upset about this claim. Donnie was forced to step in (to support his #1 amateur rider, dad, and team) and talk to Brennan Schofield, who made the claim.

There's more to the story—and we all know that, and it's out there—but to cut to the chase of the Luce/PulpMX Show thing, I had seen more than a few people who wanted Donnie fired, more than a few people who said they would never support Yamaha again because of these threats of Yamaha pulling Brennan's dealership, and to me, I know Luce was broken up about the mob calling for his job for these "threats." I wanted to get out there that these "threats" to Brennen's dealership didn't happen (and couldn't happen for a number of logical reasons).

I think we know by now, based on everyone's statements after the fact (Brennan and the dealer), that this part didn't happen. So I did have some empathy to Luce for this, and when I said, "Sorry you got dragged into this," I don't think there's any way Donnie does a thing unless Brian Deegan and/or Star Yamaha don't protest this claim. So he did have wade into this, and there was an offer for motors and some other stuff to drop this claim (which I don't see an issue with; Brennan's dad explained this was a deal they took to me).

So could I have hammered Donnie more? I guess so, but I didn't see a problem with the adult to the minor agreeing to drop the claim for some stuff. Yes, I have a deal with Yamaha for support of the show and a loaner bike for the year—which I disclosed—but the original claims from Brennen seem to have lost some of their steam and he forgot to disclose a few things, and I wanted that to come out. Listening back, it probably was a bit of a softball interview, and I'll try to do better, but the above was my intent. And once more, for the record, Brennan Schofield should have the bike, and I'm happy the powers that be are changing the claiming rules for next year. [Ed. note: Schofield posted pics of his new KTM today on his social media.]
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8/19/2022 4:29pm Edited Date/Time 8/19/2022 4:39pm
Been a long time listener too. The bias and acted stubbornness was entertaining. I thought DV's constant interruptions during sponsors time was annoying...but then it hit...
Been a long time listener too. The bias and acted stubbornness was entertaining.
I thought DV's constant interruptions during sponsors time was annoying...but then it hit me. Holly molly, A lot of gargling sponsors names and products.. I've slowly been accustomed to these regurgitations for years now.

Ask yourself, can Matthes truly explain what a GP vertex piston is? Am sure he cashes their checks tho.
And that damn neck brace/ airline commercial over and over.. Yet never seen him use one.

So sorry, making grown up, informed decisions here. Pulp used to be fun, there are some great episodes.

Over the years the lack of accurate or precise information regarding mechanical or factual details.. just winging over it like a salesperson who does not care but just wants to offload product .. and yet claiming the holly status of former mechanic to assert some kind of authority...
And sorry, the lack of research on topics. Seeing that other outlets can do the research while having real jobs.
No excuses there, unless your schtick is "entertainment " only.
Yet in the past , some exquisite pieces of investigative articles and journalism.

The recent events have transpired where the show stands.
It used to be the place against all odds where you could hear the unpopular truths. Blunt honesty and entertainment. Shooting the Sh*t.
I guess it's part of evolution, not being core anymore and paying for higher ceilings, while being " in" with the boys.

Best of luck to all. Everyone is entitled to their own life choices and beliefs.

For me It is a sad day and quite a loss in my small, niche sport/ entertainment. I miss the old Pulp. It has changed, and it is not working out anymore.

Very bad timing, as I was about to switch to blucru. That and hearing Keefer & crew, all that gargle... I want nothing to do with these guys and their " club" . This is not what I want to endorse, or support in any sort.

I do remember " let Brock Bye". Reason some of us were riding other colors for decades after.

Just my choice. Don't act as if we are imbeciles not seeing through your sh*t.




The recent DV episode is the only one I watched in it's entirety as of late. DV is gold and pulls no punches...even with his vaunted host.

Honestly, there is only so much Matthes I can take. I don't hate the guy, but he kinda grates on me. I do prefer his REALLY old interviews when it was just him.

When I listen now, it's just segments with certain guests. I tire of all the other schmuckery. Also, I FF thru the commercial/product endorsements. I have very little tolerance for corporate shilling. I get it....they pay for keeping content on air.

Your last line is the one that really resonates.

"Don't act as if we are imbeciles not seeing through your sh*t."

That is spot on....and is exactly what they are doing.

Even Weege's Podcast was saying there is no way Yamaha could strong-arm a dealership. Sad.



EDIT: Matthes quote taken from the post above mine.

"I wanted to get out there that these "threats" to Brennen's dealership didn't happen (and couldn't happen for a number of logical reasons)."

More...."These are not the droids you're looking for" imbecile manipulation..
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My rule is when I want to listen to someone with a lot of connections in the sport i listen to matthes. When I want to hear people who know what theyre talking about I listen to Bubba or whiskey throttle. That is to say I might listen to one half of a pulp show per year if he ever crosses my mind.
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8/19/2022 4:46pm
bad juju wrote:
to me it says he is no longer riding a blue bike. and now turning a page in his life. now that he has made himself...
to me it says he is no longer riding a blue bike. and now turning a page in his life. now that he has made himself an enemy of some his competition and a hero to the others, dare I say mx sports and the rest of the cuck mob. If BS has any hope of a career in this sport now, he will have to put on some stellar rides that put him above danger boy. if not, I would say it's kind of over after this. In a way he fucked himself though, then got fucked by all, Yamaha, Deegans, MX sports, sponsor, M walker, etc. sad really. ended up without the bike and possibly smoked his career.
FastEddy wrote:
If he sticks with a KTM. Maybe once he turns pro KTM will invite him over to see how he does in the GP's. B) Then...
If he sticks with a KTM.
Maybe once he turns pro KTM will invite him over to see how he does in the GP's. Cool
Then there's a lot of off season events across the pond too he could race.
Canadian nationals might also be an option.

for sure. he needs to be seen as "Fast" not "The guy that tried to clain Deegans bike" and put this disaster behind him, lol.
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8/19/2022 5:21pm Edited Date/Time 8/20/2022 2:29am
Been a long time listener too. The bias and acted stubbornness was entertaining. I thought DV's constant interruptions during sponsors time was annoying...but then it hit...
Been a long time listener too. The bias and acted stubbornness was entertaining.
I thought DV's constant interruptions during sponsors time was annoying...but then it hit me. Holly molly, A lot of gargling sponsors names and products.. I've slowly been accustomed to these regurgitations for years now.

Ask yourself, can Matthes truly explain what a GP vertex piston is? Am sure he cashes their checks tho.
And that damn neck brace/ airline commercial over and over.. Yet never seen him use one.

So sorry, making grown up, informed decisions here. Pulp used to be fun, there are some great episodes.

Over the years the lack of accurate or precise information regarding mechanical or factual details.. just winging over it like a salesperson who does not care but just wants to offload product .. and yet claiming the holly status of former mechanic to assert some kind of authority...
And sorry, the lack of research on topics. Seeing that other outlets can do the research while having real jobs.
No excuses there, unless your schtick is "entertainment " only.
Yet in the past , some exquisite pieces of investigative articles and journalism.

The recent events have transpired where the show stands.
It used to be the place against all odds where you could hear the unpopular truths. Blunt honesty and entertainment. Shooting the Sh*t.
I guess it's part of evolution, not being core anymore and paying for higher ceilings, while being " in" with the boys.

Best of luck to all. Everyone is entitled to their own life choices and beliefs.

For me It is a sad day and quite a loss in my small, niche sport/ entertainment. I miss the old Pulp. It has changed, and it is not working out anymore.

Very bad timing, as I was about to switch to blucru. That and hearing Keefer & crew, all that gargle... I want nothing to do with these guys and their " club" . This is not what I want to endorse, or support in any sort.

I do remember " let Brock Bye". Reason some of us were riding other colors for decades after.

Just my choice. Don't act as if we are imbeciles not seeing through your sh*t.




FastEddy wrote:
Once Watson left the show was never the same IMO.
Watson is “core”, Matthes, a collector of core memorabilia.
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lestat wrote:
A lawyer calling someone a cancer . That’s pretty funny . Trying to get a photo pass are you ? Well you are going about it...
A lawyer calling someone a cancer . That’s pretty funny . Trying to get a photo pass are you ? Well you are going about it the right way … just got to kiss the right ass and voila … that’s how moto works . Good luck with that … at least photography is a somewhat honourable profession … unlike the absolute scum of the earth lawyers .
Magoofan wrote:
Go easy on lumping people into one big stereotype. Lotta good attorneys in the world doing good things. Child adoptions, family law, wills/trusts (protecting your wealth...
Go easy on lumping people into one big stereotype.

Lotta good attorneys in the world doing good things. Child adoptions, family law, wills/trusts (protecting your wealth from the gov), patent law....and many more. I personally know numerous attorneys who are the most ethical people you can find.

People hate attorneys until they need one to save their ass.

That....and you only hear about the scumbag ones.

Yeah and when you do need one you will need thousands of dollars to wake them up.
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Madmax31 wrote:
I love Pulp and Steve. Have listened to him from the begining. But to say I'm highly dissapointed in him is an understatement. Those guys so...
I love Pulp and Steve. Have listened to him from the begining. But to say I'm highly dissapointed in him is an understatement.

Those guys so biased and blind to what happened. It's really disgusting.
SX_336 wrote:
I here you. I literally couldn’t believe what I was hearing. Here is what is awesome about Ping and GL. The Whiskey Throttle show is SPONSORED...
I here you. I literally couldn’t believe what I was hearing.

Here is what is awesome about Ping and GL. The Whiskey Throttle show is SPONSORED by Yamaha and he still expressed his disappointment in Yamaha through all this. That’s why Steve will never be a Ping. Imagine PulpMX with Ping In Steve’s chair. 😉
Incidents like these bring out true intentions and character... apply that however you'd like. I think people are starting to see why I left Racer X...
Incidents like these bring out true intentions and character... apply that however you'd like. I think people are starting to see why I left Racer X, and why I cut Steve Matthes out of my life completely.
Dude you worship trump, you're not better than matthes. Sit down ole culty one.
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lestat wrote:
A lawyer calling someone a cancer . That’s pretty funny . Trying to get a photo pass are you ? Well you are going about it...
A lawyer calling someone a cancer . That’s pretty funny . Trying to get a photo pass are you ? Well you are going about it the right way … just got to kiss the right ass and voila … that’s how moto works . Good luck with that … at least photography is a somewhat honourable profession … unlike the absolute scum of the earth lawyers .
Magoofan wrote:
Go easy on lumping people into one big stereotype. Lotta good attorneys in the world doing good things. Child adoptions, family law, wills/trusts (protecting your wealth...
Go easy on lumping people into one big stereotype.

Lotta good attorneys in the world doing good things. Child adoptions, family law, wills/trusts (protecting your wealth from the gov), patent law....and many more. I personally know numerous attorneys who are the most ethical people you can find.

People hate attorneys until they need one to save their ass.

That....and you only hear about the scumbag ones.

HD1200 wrote:
Yeah and when you do need one you will need thousands of dollars to wake them up.
The funny part is you only need a lawyer because another lawyer is causing you grief.
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8/20/2022 8:36am Edited Date/Time 8/20/2022 8:37am
lestat wrote:
A lawyer calling someone a cancer . That’s pretty funny . Trying to get a photo pass are you ? Well you are going about it...
A lawyer calling someone a cancer . That’s pretty funny . Trying to get a photo pass are you ? Well you are going about it the right way … just got to kiss the right ass and voila … that’s how moto works . Good luck with that … at least photography is a somewhat honourable profession … unlike the absolute scum of the earth lawyers .
Magoofan wrote:
Go easy on lumping people into one big stereotype. Lotta good attorneys in the world doing good things. Child adoptions, family law, wills/trusts (protecting your wealth...
Go easy on lumping people into one big stereotype.

Lotta good attorneys in the world doing good things. Child adoptions, family law, wills/trusts (protecting your wealth from the gov), patent law....and many more. I personally know numerous attorneys who are the most ethical people you can find.

People hate attorneys until they need one to save their ass.

That....and you only hear about the scumbag ones.

HD1200 wrote:
Yeah and when you do need one you will need thousands of dollars to wake them up.
Posts like that just show ones ignorance. Lots of attorneys are not getting rich out there.

Not to mention, you ever hear of Pro-bono? Are you required to work for free a certain percentage every year?

Your response smells like jealousy. Haves and have-not pure class warfare.

Fact is, there are scumbags in every profession. For example, mechanics/repair shops who take advantage of people.


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If you're in the automotive field working flat rate then yea you work for free a ton. Sometimes you even get to start your day with negative hours. I don't feel bad for any lawyer.
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