Possibly the most complex machine man has ever built

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Pretty awesome video on how the latest microprocessors are made using EUV Lithography.

In layman’s terms, it’s like shooting 50,000 bullets a second and hitting each bullet with two lasers at two different times. A low powered laser first. And then a high powered laser second.

Truly fascinating.

Quite possibly the most complex machine ever built by man.

Also, it’s one thing to do this in a lab, it’s a whole other animal to make it commercial viable.

These cost about $150,000,000 each. I’ve read where the newest ones will be pushing $300,000,000 each.

Places like Intel, Samsung, TSMC need dozens of these machines at each fab site. Huge huge costs involved.

https://youtu.be/5Ge2RcvDlgw
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Jesus that made me feel really stupid.
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Boggles my mind that a 120 yrs ago we didn’t really know what light was and now we can work at scales and energy levels like this . Seems like such a massive leap and makes me wonder how long can we keep advancing at this rate .
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Impressive. The Large Hadron Collider might give it a run for its money. $4.75 billion dollars, 17 miles around.
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BMSOBx2 wrote:
Impressive. The Large Hadron Collider might give it a run for its money. $4.75 billion dollars, 17 miles around.
It definitely gives it a run for its money for sure! That’s an another amazing piece of equipment!

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James Webb Telescope has to be on the list . Had to invent a bunch of tech to get the job done . 10 billion dollars and we can’t fly out and fix it like Hubble either . All in …
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lestat wrote:
James Webb Telescope has to be on the list . Had to invent a bunch of tech to get the job done . 10 billion dollars...
James Webb Telescope has to be on the list . Had to invent a bunch of tech to get the job done . 10 billion dollars and we can’t fly out and fix it like Hubble either . All in …
Amazing tech! I need to go watch the video on that again!
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All 3 of those things mentioned so far , are simply incredible. Thanks for the vid TX!
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Here’s some super simple tech that is really cool and we should get a lot of bang for your buck out of it . These will be our “eyes” in space exploration in the near future I bet .


https://youtu.be/JM-J_VZOw60
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Boomslang wrote:
This has always fascinated me. The Marble Machine (music instrument using 2000 marbles)


https://youtu.be/IvUU8joBb1Q
I heard shortly after this was filmed the poor guy lost all his marbles and had to be institutionalized.
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BMSOBx2 wrote:
Impressive. The Large Hadron Collider might give it a run for its money. $4.75 billion dollars, 17 miles around.
TXDirt wrote:
It definitely gives it a run for its money for sure! That’s an another amazing piece of equipment!
The brain trust that is the US government canceled one three times that size in Texas after spending 2 billion dollars.
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ToolMaker 6/27/2022 5:41pm
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I was going to order one of those euv light source thingies but the wait is so long the new technology will
have made it obsolete by the time I receive it. Laughing Laughing
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lestat wrote:
Boggles my mind that a 120 yrs ago we didn’t really know what light was and now we can work at scales and energy levels like...
Boggles my mind that a 120 yrs ago we didn’t really know what light was and now we can work at scales and energy levels like this . Seems like such a massive leap and makes me wonder how long can we keep advancing at this rate .
Actually, the rate of tangible advancement is slowing dramatically.

If the absolute potential of some process is 100 (say...making a product...or moving good from point A to point Cool , and doing it manually was say 10, getting to 80 on that scale using industrial advances over the last 100 years was pretty easy. But each of those last percentages beyond 80, to approach the maximum potential of 100, get dramatically harder and harder.

That is why it is taking so much technology (human capital and creativity) to advance...say from 88 to 89 (faster processors..etc)

But it does not change the fact that the maximum potential of the process is 100.

Where is my flying car?
https://www.amazon.com/Where-Flying-Car-Storrs-Hall/dp/1953953182
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lestat 7/24/2022 8:56am
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TrailMaker wrote:
Actually, the rate of tangible advancement is slowing dramatically. If the absolute potential of some process is 100 (say...making a product...or moving good from point A...
Actually, the rate of tangible advancement is slowing dramatically.

If the absolute potential of some process is 100 (say...making a product...or moving good from point A to point Cool , and doing it manually was say 10, getting to 80 on that scale using industrial advances over the last 100 years was pretty easy. But each of those last percentages beyond 80, to approach the maximum potential of 100, get dramatically harder and harder.

That is why it is taking so much technology (human capital and creativity) to advance...say from 88 to 89 (faster processors..etc)

But it does not change the fact that the maximum potential of the process is 100.

Where is my flying car?
https://www.amazon.com/Where-Flying-Car-Storrs-Hall/dp/1953953182
That looks like an interesting read 👍 . I wonder if the lack of advancement in fundamental physics plays a role in his theory . We could really use a new source of energy … anti gravity for me , please .

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