Scott Champion

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GuyB wrote:
WORCSracer, I made sure that I checked with the MX Sports gang before I enlisted Scott's help with the 250F shoot to make sure that it...
WORCSracer, I made sure that I checked with the MX Sports gang before I enlisted Scott's help with the 250F shoot to make sure that it was okay for him to do it. It falls within the AMA rules.

As far as Press day, they always have a team or two on hand, and this week it just so happened that Yamaha was on the list of teams who would be attending. It's not some special provision for Scott.
I didn't say it was special provision and I wasn't talking about you or your set up with Brandon or DC. What you asked for was CLEARLY allowed.

What he said he's going to do on Friday's press day however, is not supposed to happen.
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what can you possibly test in 5 laps? "Hey see if you like these bars?"... what an advantage....
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WORCSRacer wrote:
So what? Does it really matter who's bike it is? Looks like he'll get an "advantage" setting this bike up though... Steve Cox: So what’s the...
So what? Does it really matter who's bike it is? Looks like he'll get an "advantage" setting this bike up though...



Steve Cox: So what’s the plan for testing for you?



Scott Champion: We get to ride a little bit on Friday, which is like Press Day or something like that, so we’re going to use that time to kind of dial in the bike and get some little suspension things and everything else done up.

oops. I hope DC puts an end to that one though.
Nerd wrote:
Yamaha had press day the whole time because Hill is a local up there.
WORCSRacer wrote:
Again what difference does it make if Yamaha had the press day set up, which I'm sure had a shitload more to do with the release...
Again what difference does it make if Yamaha had the press day set up, which I'm sure had a shitload more to do with the release of the 0 ten 250F than Josh Hill. Cox is the photo shoot supposed to be used for testing? No.
If I'm reading into this right, SC didn't get to ride the bike he's going to race during the photo shoot, he rode the 2010 model.

He is going to use Friday's press day to do some tuning. Press day hasn't happened yet, has it? Just the phot shoot?
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what can you possibly test in 5 laps? "Hey see if you like these bars?"... what an advantage....
Then why bother having Champion ride it at all? It's not like he's keeping that seat. What do you think this is a remake of Motocrossed?

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Your not making any sense... you tried to say that it is unfair that he gets to "test" for five laps on friday... They obviously want another competitive blue bike on the track and none of their riders are healthy.. so why not?
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Nerd wrote:
Yamaha had press day the whole time because Hill is a local up there.
WORCSRacer wrote:
Again what difference does it make if Yamaha had the press day set up, which I'm sure had a shitload more to do with the release...
Again what difference does it make if Yamaha had the press day set up, which I'm sure had a shitload more to do with the release of the 0 ten 250F than Josh Hill. Cox is the photo shoot supposed to be used for testing? No.
ridge wrote:
If I'm reading into this right, SC didn't get to ride the bike he's going to race during the photo shoot, he rode the 2010 model...
If I'm reading into this right, SC didn't get to ride the bike he's going to race during the photo shoot, he rode the 2010 model.

He is going to use Friday's press day to do some tuning. Press day hasn't happened yet, has it? Just the phot shoot?
Sorry Ridge I'm mixing terms.

The release of the 0 10 250F was outside of the track embargo. Totally legal for Champion to ride courtesy of GuyB or if he had the money (like Alessi) he could rent the track. "Press Day" however is reserved for a couple of teams to shoot PR photos. It is clear the "Press Day" is not supposed to be a test day.
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WORCSRacer wrote:
So what? Does it really matter who's bike it is? Looks like he'll get an "advantage" setting this bike up though... Steve Cox: So what’s the...
So what? Does it really matter who's bike it is? Looks like he'll get an "advantage" setting this bike up though...



Steve Cox: So what’s the plan for testing for you?



Scott Champion: We get to ride a little bit on Friday, which is like Press Day or something like that, so we’re going to use that time to kind of dial in the bike and get some little suspension things and everything else done up.

oops. I hope DC puts an end to that one though.
Nerd wrote:
Yamaha had press day the whole time because Hill is a local up there.
WORCSRacer wrote:
Again what difference does it make if Yamaha had the press day set up, which I'm sure had a shitload more to do with the release...
Again what difference does it make if Yamaha had the press day set up, which I'm sure had a shitload more to do with the release of the 0 ten 250F than Josh Hill. Cox is the photo shoot supposed to be used for testing? No.
No, you're right. What they should do is have him ride, but not take any notes or carry any tools with them.

That makes perfect sense.
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Nerd wrote:
Yamaha had press day the whole time because Hill is a local up there.
WORCSRacer wrote:
Again what difference does it make if Yamaha had the press day set up, which I'm sure had a shitload more to do with the release...
Again what difference does it make if Yamaha had the press day set up, which I'm sure had a shitload more to do with the release of the 0 ten 250F than Josh Hill. Cox is the photo shoot supposed to be used for testing? No.
Nerd wrote:
No, you're right. What they should do is have him ride, but not take any notes or carry any tools with them.

That makes perfect sense.
Probably about as much sense as you defending him testing during the press day.
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WORCSRacer wrote:
Again what difference does it make if Yamaha had the press day set up, which I'm sure had a shitload more to do with the release...
Again what difference does it make if Yamaha had the press day set up, which I'm sure had a shitload more to do with the release of the 0 ten 250F than Josh Hill. Cox is the photo shoot supposed to be used for testing? No.
Nerd wrote:
No, you're right. What they should do is have him ride, but not take any notes or carry any tools with them.

That makes perfect sense.
WORCSRacer wrote:
Probably about as much sense as you defending him testing during the press day.
EVERYONE tests during press day. Everyone.

Do you expect the team not to ask the rider about the bike afterward?
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WORCS, no I don't promote the idea that somebody get out there and cheat. Especially in what is supposed to be the "up and coming" class. I don't even promote the idea of Pro-Circuit building $200,000.00 apiece bikes (per MXA this month) for the entry level pro class but the fact that they are legal makes that all A-Okay. Scott is the one that made ends meet for some of the races this year and he's the one that put in 30 minutes plus 2 over and over with a blown rear shock and a split exhaust system. The fact he got noticed for his hard work and sheer determination seems to have some people here all fucked up in the head.

As for the anonymous engine builder, Scott didn't call you out by name but maybe you should put your head down and get back to work trying to figure how to assemble an engine so that it stays together for more than a lap or two. You look more stupid at this point than you could ever make Scott Champion look. Just as with Don from Rocket Exhaust bashing Scott's head in on his original plea for a little help this year. Don should have kept that on track deal between the two families instead of having an internet pissing match with a kid who came off as very well mannered and polite considering the shit being thrown at him.

I had the opportunity to meet Scott, his father and a few other family members at the Texas national this year and came away highly impressed with his attitude and effort on the track. I don't see Scott's level of ambition in a lot of twenty year old kids these days. I'm glad to say I was able to throw a couple hundred bucks his way to hopefully support him on his way to the next event. Looks like it might have just made the difference between him continuing on or just throwing in the towel. He's out there doing what most of us wish we could have been doing at his age and some of you fuckers want to stand there and piss on his parade. Fucking amazing.


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We brought Scott Champion up to Washougal to be our test guy at the Yamaha YZ250F intro, and sometimes it's good to be in the right...
We brought Scott Champion up to Washougal to be our test guy at the Yamaha YZ250F intro, and sometimes it's good to be in the right place at the right time. With the news that Josh Hill will be out of action this weekend due to a back injury, and his bike sitting up here being unused, Scott got the nod to use it for this weekend's race.


How cool is that?


Oh shi...........good deal and good luck to dude.


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Nerd wrote:
No, you're right. What they should do is have him ride, but not take any notes or carry any tools with them.

That makes perfect sense.
WORCSRacer wrote:
Probably about as much sense as you defending him testing during the press day.
Nerd wrote:
EVERYONE tests during press day. Everyone.

Do you expect the team not to ask the rider about the bike afterward?
So it's basically screw the rules eh Steve? Thanks for clearing up any question about this.
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Well said Newmann.
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WORCSRacer wrote:
Probably about as much sense as you defending him testing during the press day.
Nerd wrote:
EVERYONE tests during press day. Everyone.

Do you expect the team not to ask the rider about the bike afterward?
WORCSRacer wrote:
So it's basically screw the rules eh Steve? Thanks for clearing up any question about this.
Show me the rule that says when they're riding on Press Day that they can't turn clickers on the suspension.
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I wouldn't call a couple spins around 2 corners and a jump a full on test session, what, are they supposed to ignore any big problems that he might happen to find?

say honda did press day and tedesco said that he was getting kicked bad over the one jump they did, would you think it was unfair for them to address that problem, or wait until he complains about it again the day of the race?
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WORCS, no I don't promote the idea that somebody get out there and cheat. Especially in what is supposed to be the "up and coming" class...
WORCS, no I don't promote the idea that somebody get out there and cheat. Especially in what is supposed to be the "up and coming" class. I don't even promote the idea of Pro-Circuit building $200,000.00 apiece bikes (per MXA this month) for the entry level pro class but the fact that they are legal makes that all A-Okay. Scott is the one that made ends meet for some of the races this year and he's the one that put in 30 minutes plus 2 over and over with a blown rear shock and a split exhaust system. The fact he got noticed for his hard work and sheer determination seems to have some people here all fucked up in the head.

As for the anonymous engine builder, Scott didn't call you out by name but maybe you should put your head down and get back to work trying to figure how to assemble an engine so that it stays together for more than a lap or two. You look more stupid at this point than you could ever make Scott Champion look. Just as with Don from Rocket Exhaust bashing Scott's head in on his original plea for a little help this year. Don should have kept that on track deal between the two families instead of having an internet pissing match with a kid who came off as very well mannered and polite considering the shit being thrown at him.

I had the opportunity to meet Scott, his father and a few other family members at the Texas national this year and came away highly impressed with his attitude and effort on the track. I don't see Scott's level of ambition in a lot of twenty year old kids these days. I'm glad to say I was able to throw a couple hundred bucks his way to hopefully support him on his way to the next event. Looks like it might have just made the difference between him continuing on or just throwing in the towel. He's out there doing what most of us wish we could have been doing at his age and some of you fuckers want to stand there and piss on his parade. Fucking amazing.


Joe Newmann
I'll second that.

Personally I don't get when something good happens to someone, that others feel like they have to jump out of the woodwork and use it as their platform for whatever is irritating them at the moment.

Sometimes people need to think before they hit the submit button.
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newmann wrote:
WORCS, no I don't promote the idea that somebody get out there and cheat. Especially in what is supposed to be the "up and coming" class...
WORCS, no I don't promote the idea that somebody get out there and cheat. Especially in what is supposed to be the "up and coming" class. I don't even promote the idea of Pro-Circuit building $200,000.00 apiece bikes (per MXA this month) for the entry level pro class but the fact that they are legal makes that all A-Okay. Scott is the one that made ends meet for some of the races this year and he's the one that put in 30 minutes plus 2 over and over with a blown rear shock and a split exhaust system. The fact he got noticed for his hard work and sheer determination seems to have some people here all fucked up in the head.

As for the anonymous engine builder, Scott didn't call you out by name but maybe you should put your head down and get back to work trying to figure how to assemble an engine so that it stays together for more than a lap or two. You look more stupid at this point than you could ever make Scott Champion look. Just as with Don from Rocket Exhaust bashing Scott's head in on his original plea for a little help this year. Don should have kept that on track deal between the two families instead of having an internet pissing match with a kid who came off as very well mannered and polite considering the shit being thrown at him.

I had the opportunity to meet Scott, his father and a few other family members at the Texas national this year and came away highly impressed with his attitude and effort on the track. I don't see Scott's level of ambition in a lot of twenty year old kids these days. I'm glad to say I was able to throw a couple hundred bucks his way to hopefully support him on his way to the next event. Looks like it might have just made the difference between him continuing on or just throwing in the towel. He's out there doing what most of us wish we could have been doing at his age and some of you fuckers want to stand there and piss on his parade. Fucking amazing.


Joe Newmann
Hey Joe since I do put my money where my mouth is and I do help get riders to Nationals. I think I get to vent. I really couldn't care much less about Scott Champion than I already do. I formed my opinion of him based on other riders, who's opinion of him I do trust, feeling about him. I don't have to like him and I sure as hell don't have to root for him. IN MY OPINION there are other riders that deserve the factory rider for a day seat before Scott Champion. You may not like me or my opinion but that's not all that concerning to me.


My big beef is that Scott is going to use "Press Day" as a test day. That is supposed to be against the rules. That press day is not open to everyone (like it was at Glen Helen) and thanks to the fearless reporting by Steve Cox we now know is after all a private test session for the select teams of the week. It just rubs me the wrong way.
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Way to go! Good luck to you, Scott.

As for bashers, why? He is so dedicated and hard-working, and that is the reason he now gets a spot on the Factory Yamaha team for a day. Why can't he test on Friday? No big deal.
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I like to see guys like Scott get this chance to ride a factory bike. As a fan of racing we get to see how he runs with the factory boys on equal equipment.
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Way to go Scott
Just think they probably will change more things on his bike for this meeting than he would of for the whole year

Is Hamblin still injured!!??
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Hey Joe since I do put my money where my mouth is and I do help get riders to Nationals. I think I get to vent...
Hey Joe since I do put my money where my mouth is and I do help get riders to Nationals. I think I get to vent. I really couldn't care much less about Scott Champion than I already do. I formed my opinion of him based on other riders, who's opinion of him I do trust, feeling about him. I don't have to like him and I sure as hell don't have to root for him. IN MY OPINION there are other riders that deserve the factory rider for a day seat before Scott Champion. You may not like me or my opinion but that's not all that concerning to me.


My big beef is that Scott is going to use "Press Day" as a test day. That is supposed to be against the rules. That press day is not open to everyone (like it was at Glen Helen) and thanks to the fearless reporting by Steve Cox we now know is after all a private test session for the select teams of the week. It just rubs me the wrong way.
They have press day at every round.
At every round some folks get to ride for the pictures.
Everytime a prorider rides they are going to tweak or change something.
It isn't a full day of hardcore testing, it is a few laps sanctioned by the promoter during which they may change a few things.

Jesus man go drink something sweet to get that bitterness out of your mouth.
It's pretty clear who and what your "beef" is with.
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I...I see a parade....and i see...rain. Smile

good luck to the kid...i'll be watching for him
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Hey WORCS,

Vicki Golden was going to use the day before the Lakewood National as a minor test tune-up before that round, and from what I understand, it would have been pretty much her only shot to ride the bike at speed before the event.

Do you hate her, too?
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"WOW, VERY COOL".......
"VERY"......
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Woohoo "Good luck!"Woohoo
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ozzy

quick question for you...

you know anything about ActionOz?

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ozzy

i saw you photo in mxa as Mike Bells mechanic. cool beans bro. you have any works parts in the garage left over from the good old days?
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Well, if Dave O. says it cool, I guess I have to agree. Hearing it from someone who's been around it as much as he tends to lend a little credibility to the coolness of it all.

And for anyone here that doesn't think I like them or not, I'll buy the first round of beers. But it won't be any candy assed lite beer. I'm just glad to see a kid get a chance. A chance of a lifetime no less. No one should be throwing bad vibes his way regardless of whether or not there are other deserving riders out there.
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Well, if Dave O. says it cool, I guess I have to agree. Hearing it from someone who's been around it as much as he tends...
Well, if Dave O. says it cool, I guess I have to agree. Hearing it from someone who's been around it as much as he tends to lend a little credibility to the coolness of it all.

And for anyone here that doesn't think I like them or not, I'll buy the first round of beers. But it won't be any candy assed lite beer. I'm just glad to see a kid get a chance. A chance of a lifetime no less. No one should be throwing bad vibes his way regardless of whether or not there are other deserving riders out there.
im in line for my beer. i drink what is available.
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I think going from a full on privateer bike thats sub par to a full on factory bike puts SC at a huge disadvantage right out of the gate. So what if he is gonna use a press day to try and get comfortable on the bike.

He didn't even ride the press day yet and people are yelling. Maybe he could have said "i will try and get comfortable on the bike during press day"

Would that have been a better choice of words? maybe.

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