stark varg gonna CHARGE through the field

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im all in of e-bikes. the no inertia effect means light feel , no vibrations etc and the power/torque are impressive. my only concern is how gentle we have to be with the throttle. i mean in my bike i twist the throttle 5 times to have the whole power but with e-bikes is only one twist for the whole power so i guess i have to be neurosurgeon to apply the correct amount of throttle?
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GD350 6/10/2022 4:31am
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Noones rode it yet bubs. But none of the reviewers looked instantly better or faster. Actually Klinger looked worse. And everyone who cane off kept saying yeah it's different. They were limited to 4 lap motos which is concerning. I don't think I'm missing out on anything by not ordering one. If anyone jumped on one and was instantly better I'd be interested.
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GD350 wrote:
Noones rode it yet bubs. But none of the reviewers looked instantly better or faster. Actually Klinger looked worse. And everyone who cane off kept saying...
Noones rode it yet bubs. But none of the reviewers looked instantly better or faster. Actually Klinger looked worse. And everyone who cane off kept saying yeah it's different. They were limited to 4 lap motos which is concerning. I don't think I'm missing out on anything by not ordering one. If anyone jumped on one and was instantly better I'd be interested.
When I was with Alta and doing demos, I put stop watches on several riders on it and then on their ICE bikes. Almost everyone was faster on the Alta immediately. Stark is obviously better than the Alta.
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mbw479 6/10/2022 4:55am
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GD350 wrote:
Noones rode it yet bubs. But none of the reviewers looked instantly better or faster. Actually Klinger looked worse. And everyone who cane off kept saying...
Noones rode it yet bubs. But none of the reviewers looked instantly better or faster. Actually Klinger looked worse. And everyone who cane off kept saying yeah it's different. They were limited to 4 lap motos which is concerning. I don't think I'm missing out on anything by not ordering one. If anyone jumped on one and was instantly better I'd be interested.
That’s the opposite of most of the reviews so far….
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bichwolf 6/10/2022 5:03am
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Like the 4 stroke after the 2 stroke, a different style of riding I would guess. A coasting style, then immediate power. Like driving a freaking boat. Maybe Like leaning on a wall and sliding with a pizza box in one hand and a led torch in the other whilst Haircut 100 is blasting.

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GD350 wrote:
Noones rode it yet bubs. But none of the reviewers looked instantly better or faster. Actually Klinger looked worse. And everyone who cane off kept saying...
Noones rode it yet bubs. But none of the reviewers looked instantly better or faster. Actually Klinger looked worse. And everyone who cane off kept saying yeah it's different. They were limited to 4 lap motos which is concerning. I don't think I'm missing out on anything by not ordering one. If anyone jumped on one and was instantly better I'd be interested.
Check out wharton and woodcocks reviews for some real info
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GD350 wrote:
Noones rode it yet bubs. But none of the reviewers looked instantly better or faster. Actually Klinger looked worse. And everyone who cane off kept saying...
Noones rode it yet bubs. But none of the reviewers looked instantly better or faster. Actually Klinger looked worse. And everyone who cane off kept saying yeah it's different. They were limited to 4 lap motos which is concerning. I don't think I'm missing out on anything by not ordering one. If anyone jumped on one and was instantly better I'd be interested.
Rubbish!

You didn’t have a lap timer on them.
You couldn’t measure a handful of seconds per lap by eye.
Not to mention very often, the fastest riders are the smoothest which means they look like they’re going slower.
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ktm 125 6/10/2022 7:31am
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startbuttonarmpump wrote:
This is electrifying news. I'm shocked!
ikr, better use a shock absorber
theycallmeebryan 6/10/2022 8:55am
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ktm 125 wrote:
im all in of e-bikes. the no inertia effect means light feel , no vibrations etc and the power/torque are impressive. my only concern is how...
im all in of e-bikes. the no inertia effect means light feel , no vibrations etc and the power/torque are impressive. my only concern is how gentle we have to be with the throttle. i mean in my bike i twist the throttle 5 times to have the whole power but with e-bikes is only one twist for the whole power so i guess i have to be neurosurgeon to apply the correct amount of throttle?
The throttle control on electric is more precise than gas. Your right wrist feels connected to the back tire, and the power is amazingly manageable. You could get max power at any time by wacking the throttle WOT, but power delivery can also be progressive (and in fact you want a slight power build up on a motocross bike). The throttle response is nearly instant, but the power doesnt rip your arms off unless you command the bike to try to do that.
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My $.02 I think when they start racing these there are going to be some fast E-Bike crossover riders because of the handbrake option and overall electric feel.
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Silas444 6/10/2022 7:11pm
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My $.02 I think when they start racing these there are going to be some fast E-Bike crossover riders because of the handbrake option and overall...
My $.02 I think when they start racing these there are going to be some fast E-Bike crossover riders because of the handbrake option and overall electric feel.
Count on it. I had a former factory-level champion MTB racer up at my track last year and I let him ride my KTM Freeride E. In only a few laps, he was flat-out flying. On a Freeride E.

Give him a Varg - oh man, what he'd likely do. It's another reason why I believe the future is gonna be both so cool and so UNLIKE the past. Buckle up, buttercups.
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ipbrew 6/11/2022 9:13am
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startbuttonarmpump wrote:
This is electrifying news. I'm shocked!
Totally amped to see a battery of these charge through the current field.
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ktm 125 6/11/2022 9:39am
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startbuttonarmpump wrote:
This is electrifying news. I'm shocked!
ipbrew wrote:
Totally amped to see a battery of these charge through the current field.
and people goin crazy and shooting OMD
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ktmdan 6/11/2022 10:21am
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startbuttonarmpump wrote:
This is electrifying news. I'm shocked!
ipbrew wrote:
Totally amped to see a battery of these charge through the current field.
Watts really shocking is how fast you can get around the circuit. It will have you saying Ohm my god!
Resistance is futile.
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chasetwo79 6/11/2022 11:10am
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Why does the electric crowd have to constantly champion this as the future of motocross? Like can’t it just be an option like electric cars are now? Why are we even pushing for this so hard to take over the sport?

The hard on electric vehicle people get for destroying the joy of the people who actually like ICE engines blows my mind.
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ipbrew 6/11/2022 11:17am
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chasetwo79 wrote:
Why does the electric crowd have to constantly champion this as the future of motocross? Like can’t it just be an option like electric cars are...
Why does the electric crowd have to constantly champion this as the future of motocross? Like can’t it just be an option like electric cars are now? Why are we even pushing for this so hard to take over the sport?

The hard on electric vehicle people get for destroying the joy of the people who actually like ICE engines blows my mind.
I guess we'll see. The point is these bikes can be used in higher density settings without creating much noise pollution. Also, based on the reviews the power, ease of maintenance and adjustability are a bonus. I think this is exciting.
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chasetwo79 6/11/2022 11:22am
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motodad805 wrote:
My $.02 I think when they start racing these there are going to be some fast E-Bike crossover riders because of the handbrake option and overall...
My $.02 I think when they start racing these there are going to be some fast E-Bike crossover riders because of the handbrake option and overall electric feel.
Silas444 wrote:
Count on it. I had a former factory-level champion MTB racer up at my track last year and I let him ride my KTM Freeride E...
Count on it. I had a former factory-level champion MTB racer up at my track last year and I let him ride my KTM Freeride E. In only a few laps, he was flat-out flying. On a Freeride E.

Give him a Varg - oh man, what he'd likely do. It's another reason why I believe the future is gonna be both so cool and so UNLIKE the past. Buckle up, buttercups.
So what you’re telling me is electrifying our sport is going to make it more like mountain biking? And bring in more of the MTB crowd?

No thanks.
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motodad805 6/11/2022 11:24am
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Let’s face it, when you can reliably get a complete moto out of the battery and be able to recharge before the next moto it’s going to be a game changer. Ease of maintenance alone is going to save the average racer 60% or so as I see. It’s coming…
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hawk101 6/11/2022 12:39pm
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One of the review videos (might have been Gypsy Tales) mentioned the Varg test took place at a track closed due to noise issues. It was a golf course converted into a track that was later closed down. Preventing track closures alone is worth embrassing electric.

Piru MX (SoCal) was a fun hillside track when I was younger, but it eventually closed due to new home construction and noise complaints.

I can't help but feel the anti-eletric crowd are so concerned with preserving the sport as it exists today that they ignore it's potential future demise. I for one want to ride for many years to come and pass it on to my future kids. Hell, a home with a couple acres would give me space for a small backyard track to practice multiple times a week compared to being a weekend warrior only. Hard to do that with a typical gas MX bike.
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Pirate421 6/11/2022 2:32pm
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This is probably a stupid question but I don’t know anything about electric. Will one of the Honda 2000 small quiet generators charge one of these bikes?
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MX558 6/11/2022 3:18pm
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chasetwo79 wrote:
Why does the electric crowd have to constantly champion this as the future of motocross? Like can’t it just be an option like electric cars are...
Why does the electric crowd have to constantly champion this as the future of motocross? Like can’t it just be an option like electric cars are now? Why are we even pushing for this so hard to take over the sport?

The hard on electric vehicle people get for destroying the joy of the people who actually like ICE engines blows my mind.
ipbrew wrote:
I guess we'll see. The point is these bikes can be used in higher density settings without creating much noise pollution. Also, based on the reviews...
I guess we'll see. The point is these bikes can be used in higher density settings without creating much noise pollution. Also, based on the reviews the power, ease of maintenance and adjustability are a bonus. I think this is exciting.
I wish I was 20 years younger with these e bikes coming in . Noore driving 2 hrs to ride moto
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Markee 6/12/2022 5:46am
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This dude concerned about being "gentle on the throttle". You might want to wait for the ttr EV 125
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