#14: MXGP of Trentino / #15: MXGP of Pietramurata / #16: MXGP of Garda

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agn5008 10/25/2021 9:20am
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Elliot wrote:
....compared to Herlings' 97. Despite Gajser having 3 MXGP titles to Herlings' 1, Herlings has 8 more MXGP overall GP wins than Gajser. If that doesn't...
....compared to Herlings' 97.

Despite Gajser having 3 MXGP titles to Herlings' 1, Herlings has 8 more MXGP overall GP wins than Gajser. If that doesn't tell you who is the better rider what does?
agn5008 wrote:
Faster rider? Herlings.

Better racer? Undoubtedly Gajser.
Elliot wrote:
Neither, as my post said better rider but I suppose it all depends on your interpretation of what that means. For me, in any given race...
Neither, as my post said better rider but I suppose it all depends on your interpretation of what that means.

For me, in any given race where they're both on the start line I would put my money on Herlings over Gajser as the stats clearly give the odds to Herlings.

How many wins did JH have 3 years ago when he had the same amount of time racing the premier class? Certainly it’s not unrealistic to think Gajser could win 8 more overalls in the next 3 years.

I can’t seem to figure out why you’d wanna compare 2 guys race wins when ones been racing longer. I mean hey, while we’re at it we might as well compare Herlings win total to Tom Vialle. That makes perfect sense Huh

Seriously though, I’m willing to bet JH84 would trade a lot of those race wins for 2 more titles. Anyone would (except you for some reason)
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Motocross83 10/25/2021 9:31am
10/25/2021 9:31am
It was a great race however tbh I am a little concerned Jeffrey's going to seize this thing and runaway with it now. I have absolutely zero against Jeffrey as a person (I'd be saying the same if it were Febvre etc stretching out a points lead) I simply want this to go down to the wire, the very last race, for the sake of my own amusement. Don't care who wins otherwise - they're all unbelievable. Jeffrey made a statement there that this thing really is his to lose now. Romain and Tim need to come back hard.
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keinz 10/25/2021 9:33am
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agn5008 wrote:
Faster rider? Herlings.

Better racer? Undoubtedly Gajser.
Elliot wrote:
Neither, as my post said better rider but I suppose it all depends on your interpretation of what that means. For me, in any given race...
Neither, as my post said better rider but I suppose it all depends on your interpretation of what that means.

For me, in any given race where they're both on the start line I would put my money on Herlings over Gajser as the stats clearly give the odds to Herlings.

agn5008 wrote:
How many wins did JH have 3 years ago when he had the same amount of time racing the premier class? Certainly it’s not unrealistic to...
How many wins did JH have 3 years ago when he had the same amount of time racing the premier class? Certainly it’s not unrealistic to think Gajser could win 8 more overalls in the next 3 years.

I can’t seem to figure out why you’d wanna compare 2 guys race wins when ones been racing longer. I mean hey, while we’re at it we might as well compare Herlings win total to Tom Vialle. That makes perfect sense Huh

Seriously though, I’m willing to bet JH84 would trade a lot of those race wins for 2 more titles. Anyone would (except you for some reason)
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agn5008 wrote:
Faster rider? Herlings.

Better racer? Undoubtedly Gajser.
Elliot wrote:
Neither, as my post said better rider but I suppose it all depends on your interpretation of what that means. For me, in any given race...
Neither, as my post said better rider but I suppose it all depends on your interpretation of what that means.

For me, in any given race where they're both on the start line I would put my money on Herlings over Gajser as the stats clearly give the odds to Herlings.

agn5008 wrote:
How many wins did JH have 3 years ago when he had the same amount of time racing the premier class? Certainly it’s not unrealistic to...
How many wins did JH have 3 years ago when he had the same amount of time racing the premier class? Certainly it’s not unrealistic to think Gajser could win 8 more overalls in the next 3 years.

I can’t seem to figure out why you’d wanna compare 2 guys race wins when ones been racing longer. I mean hey, while we’re at it we might as well compare Herlings win total to Tom Vialle. That makes perfect sense Huh

Seriously though, I’m willing to bet JH84 would trade a lot of those race wins for 2 more titles. Anyone would (except you for some reason)
So your interpretation is different to mine but that's ok. I'll just stick with the stats.
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Muscle-Milk-KTM 10/25/2021 10:10am
10/25/2021 10:10am
agn5008 wrote:
Faster rider? Herlings.

Better racer? Undoubtedly Gajser.
Elliot wrote:
Neither, as my post said better rider but I suppose it all depends on your interpretation of what that means. For me, in any given race...
Neither, as my post said better rider but I suppose it all depends on your interpretation of what that means.

For me, in any given race where they're both on the start line I would put my money on Herlings over Gajser as the stats clearly give the odds to Herlings.

agn5008 wrote:
How many wins did JH have 3 years ago when he had the same amount of time racing the premier class? Certainly it’s not unrealistic to...
How many wins did JH have 3 years ago when he had the same amount of time racing the premier class? Certainly it’s not unrealistic to think Gajser could win 8 more overalls in the next 3 years.

I can’t seem to figure out why you’d wanna compare 2 guys race wins when ones been racing longer. I mean hey, while we’re at it we might as well compare Herlings win total to Tom Vialle. That makes perfect sense Huh

Seriously though, I’m willing to bet JH84 would trade a lot of those race wins for 2 more titles. Anyone would (except you for some reason)
I dunno dude, every time Herlings gets another overall, he always states how closer he’s getting to 101.
Muscle-Milk-KTM 10/25/2021 10:12am
10/25/2021 10:12am
Elliot wrote:
Neither, as my post said better rider but I suppose it all depends on your interpretation of what that means. For me, in any given race...
Neither, as my post said better rider but I suppose it all depends on your interpretation of what that means.

For me, in any given race where they're both on the start line I would put my money on Herlings over Gajser as the stats clearly give the odds to Herlings.

agn5008 wrote:
How many wins did JH have 3 years ago when he had the same amount of time racing the premier class? Certainly it’s not unrealistic to...
How many wins did JH have 3 years ago when he had the same amount of time racing the premier class? Certainly it’s not unrealistic to think Gajser could win 8 more overalls in the next 3 years.

I can’t seem to figure out why you’d wanna compare 2 guys race wins when ones been racing longer. I mean hey, while we’re at it we might as well compare Herlings win total to Tom Vialle. That makes perfect sense Huh

Seriously though, I’m willing to bet JH84 would trade a lot of those race wins for 2 more titles. Anyone would (except you for some reason)
keinz wrote:
3 years ago [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/10/25/515977/s1200_Screenshot_2021_10_25_at_19.02.58.jpg[/img]
3 years ago



That year was insane for Herlings.
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agn5008 10/25/2021 10:20am
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Elliot wrote:
Neither, as my post said better rider but I suppose it all depends on your interpretation of what that means. For me, in any given race...
Neither, as my post said better rider but I suppose it all depends on your interpretation of what that means.

For me, in any given race where they're both on the start line I would put my money on Herlings over Gajser as the stats clearly give the odds to Herlings.

agn5008 wrote:
How many wins did JH have 3 years ago when he had the same amount of time racing the premier class? Certainly it’s not unrealistic to...
How many wins did JH have 3 years ago when he had the same amount of time racing the premier class? Certainly it’s not unrealistic to think Gajser could win 8 more overalls in the next 3 years.

I can’t seem to figure out why you’d wanna compare 2 guys race wins when ones been racing longer. I mean hey, while we’re at it we might as well compare Herlings win total to Tom Vialle. That makes perfect sense Huh

Seriously though, I’m willing to bet JH84 would trade a lot of those race wins for 2 more titles. Anyone would (except you for some reason)
Muscle-Milk-KTM wrote:
I dunno dude, every time Herlings gets another overall, he always states how closer he’s getting to 101.
I’m a big Herlings fan. I just think it’s laughable how some people write off Gajsers accomplishments. They’re both amazing but what it comes down to is these guys race for championships. Gajser currently has more premier titles than JH. That will most likely change in the coming years if JH can stay off the ground.
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kaidodragon 10/25/2021 10:52am
10/25/2021 10:52am
Fastest laps of the races

MX2 race 1

1/ Tom Vialle = 1.41.982
2/ Isak Gifting = 1.42.394
3/ Jago Geerts = 1.42.540
4/ Thibault Benistant = 1.42.657
5/ Kay De Wolf = 1.42.698
6/ Ruben Fernandez = 1.42.940
7/ Jed Beaton = 1.43.419
8/ Conrad Mewse = 1.43.519
9/ Bastian Boegh Damm = 1.43.519
10/ Maxime Renaux = 1.43.785

MXGP race 1

1/ Jeffrey Herlings = 1.40.578
2/ Romain Febvre = 1.40.986
3/ Tim Gajser = 1.41.135
4/ Jeremy Seewer = 1.41.181
5/ Jorge Prado Garcia = 1.41.992
6/ Glenn Coldenhoff = 1.42.061
7/ Thomas Kjer Olsen = 1.42.351
8/ Pauls Jonass = 1.42.608
9/ Alessandro Lupino = 1.43.028
10/ Arnaud Tonus = 1.43.084

MX2 race 2

1/ Jago Geerts = 1.42.656
2/ Jed Beaton = 1.42.862
3/ Tom Vialle = 1.43.003
4/ Ruben Fernandez = 1.43.978
5/ Rene Hofer = 1.44.577
6/ Mattia Guadagnini = 1.44.749
7/ Kay De Wolf = 1.44.798
8/ Maxime Renaux = 1.44.968
9/ Stephen Rubini = 1.45.468
10/ Isak Gifting = 1.45.475

MXGP race 2

1/ Tim Gajser = 1.40.650
2/ Jeffrey Herlings = 1.41.155
3/ Romain Febvre = 1.41.863
4/ Glenn Coldenhoff = 1.42.187
5/ Jeremy Seewer = 1.42.362
6/ Thomas Kjer Olsen = 1.43.821
7/ Ben Watson = 1.43.978
8/ Mathys Boisrame = 1.43.997
9/ Henry Jacobi = 1.44.043
10/ Jeremy Van Horebeek = 1.44.072
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tek14 10/25/2021 1:55pm
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cesar_rc4 wrote:
What a first lap caos from Sewer Gopro.
Look how agressive all the riders are... Gajser had some sketchy moments.
https://youtu.be/OVwGf4Xd-u8
Incredible mountain views like in video game.
Racing seems so intense im happy to watch it from sofa.. how they can survive those first laps!
Track looks so slick and shiny at some spots they must have using some kind of traction control?
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cesar_rc4 10/25/2021 2:43pm
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tek14 wrote:
Incredible mountain views like in video game. Racing seems so intense im happy to watch it from sofa.. how they can survive those first laps! Track...
Incredible mountain views like in video game.
Racing seems so intense im happy to watch it from sofa.. how they can survive those first laps!
Track looks so slick and shiny at some spots they must have using some kind of traction control?
Its a beautiful place. Next year im going to go if i my budget is healthy.

And looks like its pretty hard to see the ruts and bumps with the shadows.

I dont think they use traction control, they are just so good riders that has the hability to control the bike perfect with throttle and clucth.
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tek14 10/25/2021 10:29pm
10/25/2021 10:29pm
Prado had crash after MXGP of Spain and have some damage in his back. That crash at Trentino was sure not needed. He could be off pace again tomorrow because of these crashes.
chuckdavies 10/26/2021 12:50am
10/26/2021 12:50am
agn5008 wrote:
Faster rider? Herlings.

Better racer? Undoubtedly Gajser.
Not sure how you came up with that reply, especially not with the confidence of 'undoubtedly'.
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Cortami79 10/26/2021 7:41am
10/26/2021 7:41am
Interesting races today! EMX250 Toendel won the Overall, amazing performance. Weckman had a great ride that second moto, very well deserved after all those injuries

Hard chargers were Farres (with 40th > 23th in moto 1 and 30th > 14th moto 2) and Frederiksen (32th > 6th moto 1 and 32th > 8th moto 2)

Lapucci had way too many crashes that second moto, but Horgmo couldn’t really make that push into top 3 to gain a huge advantage
kaidodragon 10/26/2021 7:43am
10/26/2021 7:43am
EMX125 full results

Race 1

1/ Lucas Coenen +0.000 *1.45.390*
2/ Valerio Lata +14.062 (1.47.905)
3/ Ivano Van Erp +16.448 (1.46.834)
4/ Bobby Bruce +17.018 (1.47.272)
5/ Karlis Reisulis +25.236 (1.47.510)
6/ Alexis Fueri +25.570 (1.48.088)
7/ Cas Valk +32.569 (1.46.726)
8/ Scott Smulders +41.366 (1.49.529)
9/ Julius Mikula +48.638 (1.49.578)
10/ Kay Karssemakers +50.666 (1.47.889)

Race 2

1/ Valerio Lata +0.000 (1.48.700)
2/ Janis Reisulis +8.228 *1.48.300*
3/ Bobby Bruce +19.125 (1.49.879)
4/ Karlis Reisulis +21.913 (1.49.777)
5/ Kay Karssemakers +22.881 (1.49.890)
6/ Scott Smulders +23.377 (1.50.589)
7/ Lucas Coenen +24.332 (1.49.719)
8/ Marc-Antoine Rossi +32.542 (1.50.506)
9/ Cas Valk +35.558 (1.49.125)
10/ Valentin Kees +40.952 (1.51.383)

Overall

1/ Valerio Lata (2/1)
2/ Lucas Coenen (1/7)
3/ Bobby Bruce (4/3)
4/ Karlis Reisulis (5/4)
5/ Ivano Van Erp (3/11)
6/ Scott Smulders (8/6)
7/ Kay Karssemakers (10/5)
8/ Cas Valk (7/9)
9/ Janis Reisulis (37/2)
10/ Julius Mikula (9/13)

Championship

1/ Valerio Lata = 268
2/ Bobby Bruce = 239
3/ Kay Karssemakers = 213
4/ Ivano Van Erp = 194
5/ Lucas Coenen = 187
6/ Scott Smulders = 168
7/ Marc-Antoine Rossi = 145
8/ Karlis Reisulis = 128
9/ Ferruccio Zanchi = 120
10/ Sacha Coenen = 110
kaidodragon 10/26/2021 7:51am
10/26/2021 7:51am
EMX250 full results

Race 1

1/ Nicholas Lapucci +0.000 *1.44.830*
2/ Kevin Horgmo +14.388 (1.45.418)
3/ Cornelius Toendel +21.988 (1.45.871)
4/ Liam Everts +26.288 (1.45.739)
5/ Hakon Fredriksen +29.896 (1.45.986)
6/ Rick Elzinga +47.252 (1.46.956)
7/ Frederico Tuani +55.982 (1.47.140)
8/ Maxime Grau +56.502 (1.47.099)
9/ Emil Weckman +57.399 (1.46.656)
10/ Andrea Bonacorsi +59.289 (1.45.567)

Race 2

1/ Andrea Bonacorsi +0.000 (1.46.713)
2/ Emil Weckman +10.183 (1.47.246)
3/ Cornelius Toendel +10.867 (1.47.447)
4/ Liam Everts +11.434 (1.47.023)
5/ Maxime Grau +13.096 (1.47.386)
6/ Kevin Horgmo +14.770 (1.46.834)
7/ Jeremy Sydow +23.844 (1.48.296)
8/ Hakon Fredriksen +24.522 *1.46.416*
9/ Frederico Tuani +38.080 (1.48.988)
10/ Rick Elzinga +39.048 (1.47.186)

Overall

1/ Cornelius Toendel (3/3)
2/ Kevin Horgmo (2/6)
3/ Andrea Bonacorsi (10/1)
4/ Liam Everts (4/4)
5/ Emil Weckman (9/2)
6/ Nicholas Lapucci (1/12)
7/ Maxime Grau (8/5)
8/ Hakon Fredriksen (5/8)
9/ Frederico Tuani (7/9)
10/ Rick Elzinga (6/10)

Championship

1/ Nicholas Lapucci = 305
2/ Kevin Horgmo = 272
3/ Rick Elzinga = 234
4/ Liam Everts = 197
5/ Andrea Bonacorsi = 190
6/ Cornelius Toendel = 168
7/ Yago Martinez = 142
8/ Hakon Fredriksen =132
9/ Emil Weckman = 106
10/ Maxime Grau = 100
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MBR 10/26/2021 11:59am
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Cortami79 wrote:
Interesting races today! EMX250 Toendel won the Overall, amazing performance. Weckman had a great ride that second moto, very well deserved after all those injuries Hard...
Interesting races today! EMX250 Toendel won the Overall, amazing performance. Weckman had a great ride that second moto, very well deserved after all those injuries

Hard chargers were Farres (with 40th > 23th in moto 1 and 30th > 14th moto 2) and Frederiksen (32th > 6th moto 1 and 32th > 8th moto 2)

Lapucci had way too many crashes that second moto, but Horgmo couldn’t really make that push into top 3 to gain a huge advantage
Emil’s pace in first moto was also good, but he crashed while passing Talviku. His scrubs were also on point. All he needs is better qualifying and starts and he could be on the podium.
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philG 10/26/2021 12:42pm
10/26/2021 12:42pm
Great racing today , Hakon Fredierickson going 5-8 from outside the top 25 in race one and 33rd in race 2 shows why he needs to be snapped up.

He needs to be on a 450 i reckon.

And Malin always mentioning the 'nountains' as they pan across the Monster Girls, is Gold..
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Aryen 10/26/2021 1:02pm
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Cortami79 wrote:
Interesting races today! EMX250 Toendel won the Overall, amazing performance. Weckman had a great ride that second moto, very well deserved after all those injuries Hard...
Interesting races today! EMX250 Toendel won the Overall, amazing performance. Weckman had a great ride that second moto, very well deserved after all those injuries

Hard chargers were Farres (with 40th > 23th in moto 1 and 30th > 14th moto 2) and Frederiksen (32th > 6th moto 1 and 32th > 8th moto 2)

Lapucci had way too many crashes that second moto, but Horgmo couldn’t really make that push into top 3 to gain a huge advantage
MBR wrote:
Emil’s pace in first moto was also good, but he crashed while passing Talviku. His scrubs were also on point. All he needs is better qualifying...
Emil’s pace in first moto was also good, but he crashed while passing Talviku. His scrubs were also on point. All he needs is better qualifying and starts and he could be on the podium.
These scrub shots with the mountains in the background are nothing less than awesome!
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Ricardo471 10/26/2021 2:33pm
10/26/2021 2:33pm
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Marek made the cut in his first try this year. (In Teutschenthal) Scored 30th. (He was born 18th April 2008) Marek, van Drunen and Reisulins are...
Marek made the cut in his first try this year. (In Teutschenthal) Scored 30th. (He was born 18th April 2008)

Marek, van Drunen and Reisulins are the hot young trio to watch.
Janis Reisulis is also 13year old, takes an second place today!
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ronniemacwannabie 10/26/2021 4:01pm
10/26/2021 4:01pm
Ricardo471 wrote:
Janis Reisulis is also 13year old, takes an second place today!
Jesus, he was racing an 85 3 weeks ago and his first 125 race was Saturday..

Then pulls a 2nd out today along with the fastest lap!
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kaidodragon 10/26/2021 11:48pm
10/26/2021 11:48pm
Last Braaap wrote:
Marek made the cut in his first try this year. (In Teutschenthal) Scored 30th. (He was born 18th April 2008) Marek, van Drunen and Reisulins are...
Marek made the cut in his first try this year. (In Teutschenthal) Scored 30th. (He was born 18th April 2008)

Marek, van Drunen and Reisulins are the hot young trio to watch.
Ricardo471 wrote:
Janis Reisulis is also 13year old, takes an second place today!
Is he Karlis younger brother, who end up (5/4) yersteday on the MJC Yamaha ?
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tek14 10/27/2021 12:19am
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Lucas Coenen was 2sec faster on lap than everyone else in first race. Second one he did crash 3? times again. He seems to have pace with his Kawasaki/(KTM or Yamaha engine) Hybrid like Malin called that machine. Where was his brother?

In EMX250 there are some riders rising to top like Weckman, Toendal and Fredriksen who was fastest rider in second race. I would see these guys have proper bike next year and put whole season together. Fredriksen started with Bud Kawasaki and was no where before jumping to current Yamaha team.
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tek14 wrote:
Lucas Coenen was 2sec faster on lap than everyone else in first race. Second one he did crash 3? times again. He seems to have pace...
Lucas Coenen was 2sec faster on lap than everyone else in first race. Second one he did crash 3? times again. He seems to have pace with his Kawasaki/(KTM or Yamaha engine) Hybrid like Malin called that machine. Where was his brother?

In EMX250 there are some riders rising to top like Weckman, Toendal and Fredriksen who was fastest rider in second race. I would see these guys have proper bike next year and put whole season together. Fredriksen started with Bud Kawasaki and was no where before jumping to current Yamaha team.
Sacha Coenen got injured in Spain, he hopes to be back for Mantova.
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DeStouwer 10/27/2021 12:53am
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Last Braaap wrote:
Marek made the cut in his first try this year. (In Teutschenthal) Scored 30th. (He was born 18th April 2008) Marek, van Drunen and Reisulins are...
Marek made the cut in his first try this year. (In Teutschenthal) Scored 30th. (He was born 18th April 2008)

Marek, van Drunen and Reisulins are the hot young trio to watch.
Ricardo471 wrote:
Janis Reisulis is also 13year old, takes an second place today!
kaidodragon wrote:
Is he Karlis younger brother, who end up (5/4) yersteday on the MJC Yamaha ?
Yep.
_barty_ 10/27/2021 2:17am
10/27/2021 2:17am
cesar_rc4 wrote:
What a first lap caos from Sewer Gopro.
Look how agressive all the riders are... Gajser had some sketchy moments.
https://youtu.be/OVwGf4Xd-u8
I don't know what it is, but the footage of him next to Valentin Guillod as VG pulls a tear off is so damn cool...
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jemcee 10/27/2021 3:36am
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I'm almost 100% sure that this kid is Gianluca Fachetti who is in 9th now

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Elliot 10/27/2021 3:46am
10/27/2021 3:46am
What a pisser for Mewse that was a solid top 5.
crusty_xx 10/27/2021 3:54am
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I'm almost 100% sure that this kid is Gianluca Fachetti who is in 9th now
I'm almost 100% sure that this kid is Gianluca Fachetti who is in 9th now

Yup. He did this all the way through 85s as well. Stopped doing it on big bikes Sad
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