KX250f Mystery problem

cdziekan
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Hi I recently bought a really really clean 2011 kx250f that was completely rebuilt by a mechanic. I took her to the track and it ran absolutely perfect and sounds awesome, but we had the common oil leak problem from the sparkplug weep hole on the right side of the cylinder so we took off the valve cover and put sealant on the top o ring right below the valve cover (the only thing we did) and we think it fixed the oil leak problem without having to take off the cam caps to get to the second o ring, but after reassembling and putting the gas tank back on we started it up and it ran horribly almost sounds like a misfire and is blowing white smoke out the exhaust, which is neither coolant or oil being burned for sure, so it has to be fuel? Also my timing is perfect we never did anything more than taking the valve cover off and now its running so off and wont idle, you have to play with the throttle to keep it running. I'm so stumped any ideas? Fuel injector problem? Spark problem?(I never did end up changing the sparkplug, and oil did leak into the sparkplug chamber cause the leak) Also here is a video of how its running with sound. https://youtu.be/T0vNBR_dXKg




Any help would be greatly appreciated before I take this thing to a shop....

TLDR: Bike ran amazing, Wanted to fix easy oil leak, took off fuel tank completely, took off valve cover and nothing else, added sealant to o ring right below valve cover to prevent oil leak from weep hole, reassembled fully, doesn't run right, misfire? didn't change/mess with anything to cause a problem like this but here we are.
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Sachmo831
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3/4/2021 4:36am
Sounds extremely rich. I would look at the tps sensor and see if it got knock out of adjustment
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3/4/2021 9:47am Edited Date/Time 3/4/2021 9:53am
Is this bike efi? Check fuel filter or pump, check compression you can get a compression gauge at O'Reilly's, just get a new spark plug since they are cheap, check coolant for loss or oil or fuel, check magnito/ timing, check cam position ( just match the markings on the cams and magnito) check you air filter.
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3/4/2021 6:28pm
Probably all the oil that leaked down into the spark plug well got on the tip of the plug and inside the cap. Clean that all up with contact cleaner, blow it all out with air and get it completely dry and try again.
cdziekan
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3/6/2021 5:59pm
FGR01 wrote:
Probably all the oil that leaked down into the spark plug well got on the tip of the plug and inside the cap. Clean that all...
Probably all the oil that leaked down into the spark plug well got on the tip of the plug and inside the cap. Clean that all up with contact cleaner, blow it all out with air and get it completely dry and try again.
I replaced the spark plug and no diffrent Sad even sprayed the spark plug hole with carb cleaner. I’m so stuck no clue what it is

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cdziekan
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3/6/2021 6:01pm
spimx wrote:
Is this bike efi? Check fuel filter or pump, check compression you can get a compression gauge at O'Reilly's, just get a new spark plug since...
Is this bike efi? Check fuel filter or pump, check compression you can get a compression gauge at O'Reilly's, just get a new spark plug since they are cheap, check coolant for loss or oil or fuel, check magnito/ timing, check cam position ( just match the markings on the cams and magnito) check you air filter.
Its Efi. It’s not burning coolant nor oil, compression is amazing, top end has maybe 5 hours on it. air filters brand new. timing is good too
rjg
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3/7/2021 2:55pm
Is it possible a wire is flipped or still disconnected, just some wild guesses
FWYT
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3/8/2021 8:33am
I think maybe trying to associate the removal of the valve cover with the problem is causing us to not look at the issue more clearly. They are maybe not related at all.

My initial thought is it sure sounds like a stator issue I had one bike or a regulator/rectifier I had on another bike.
Maybe see if you can borrow one of those units to swap onto yours and check it.

Good luck and let us know what you find out!
cdziekan
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3/8/2021 1:57pm
rjg wrote:
Is it possible a wire is flipped or still disconnected, just some wild guesses
I don’t think so unfortunately
cdziekan
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FWYT wrote:
I think maybe trying to associate the removal of the valve cover with the problem is causing us to not look at the issue more clearly...
I think maybe trying to associate the removal of the valve cover with the problem is causing us to not look at the issue more clearly. They are maybe not related at all.

My initial thought is it sure sounds like a stator issue I had one bike or a regulator/rectifier I had on another bike.
Maybe see if you can borrow one of those units to swap onto yours and check it.

Good luck and let us know what you find out!
It sure could be a stator/eletrical problem. I did wash the bike before hand but i dried it off and started it up for 5 mins and she ran fine. so i don’t think i fried anything. I have a 01 kx125. do you think i could swap on the regulator/rectifier of that to the 250 and try it out?
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cdziekan wrote:
It sure could be a stator/eletrical problem. I did wash the bike before hand but i dried it off and started it up for 5 mins...
It sure could be a stator/eletrical problem. I did wash the bike before hand but i dried it off and started it up for 5 mins and she ran fine. so i don’t think i fried anything. I have a 01 kx125. do you think i could swap on the regulator/rectifier of that to the 250 and try it out?
I honestly don't know if those two bikes swap.
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3/9/2021 6:04am
Sounds like you’ve already done this to a degree, but...

Start small/free. Pull the tank. Go over every fuel and electrical connection. IF it’s related to the RE-sealing of the o-ring, about the only thing you could’ve done is dislodge an electrical or fuel connection, strain a wire, etc. take the plug cap off and make sure it’s clean, dry and secure. Check the plug for a cracked insulator from R&R.

This could be totally unrelated...but you might as well start as if it is, since that’s all free other than your time.
cdziekan
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3/10/2021 4:34pm
Okay so I believe I found the problem but the bike is still not acting right, The two throttle cables leading down to the fuel injector were very loose (i noticed this days ago but i thought it was a adjustment and not to mess with it) When I tightened it up the bike runs perfectly but for about 30 seconds then goes back to running like crap..... but definitely major improvement and I don't know where to go from here... new throttle cables idk?

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