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bd wrote:
Both RV and MA are better at MX than SX. My guess... 800 at GH
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God damn.....you guys ALL speculate to damn much! I'm with GuyB on this one......lets just watch the race and see where the dice fall. I have a good feeling who will be strong and who won't.....but i wouldn't bet on anything just yet.

Another good point GuyB brought up......"they have to make it through all 24 friggin' motos!"....no matter how fast they are!

One thing is for sure.....there is going to be some great racing in BOTH classes!

That much we can at least all agree on i hope!
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I'm sorry, but if anybody is heading to GH with a pocket full of confidence it is Mike Alessi. With JS7 not confirmed MA should be the favorite, He smoked everybody else last year consistantly and should have no problem doing it again, he gets great starts and doesn't fade to the back like he does in SX. RV and Reed will be fast and close by ,but I think MA WILL hold it on longer and wick it up faster outdoors where he is way more comfortable.

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1. MA
2. CR
3. RV
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jeffro503 wrote:
God damn.....you guys ALL speculate to damn much! I'm with GuyB on this one......lets just watch the race and see where the dice fall. I have...
God damn.....you guys ALL speculate to damn much! I'm with GuyB on this one......lets just watch the race and see where the dice fall. I have a good feeling who will be strong and who won't.....but i wouldn't bet on anything just yet.

Another good point GuyB brought up......"they have to make it through all 24 friggin' motos!"....no matter how fast they are!

One thing is for sure.....there is going to be some great racing in BOTH classes!

That much we can at least all agree on i hope!
What's the point of having a message board if your not going to speculate?

Sitting onthe fence is as boring as bat shit.

I'm with little dave on this one. He may not win GH but he will be right on the battle with RV for the title.

MA will be fast too but not sure if he can hold it together for 24.

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Chad will be a nice touch to the front of the pack but my moneys on RV2. RV is one bad dude outside on a motorcycle. He will be compared to the GOAT one day, kids on a mission.
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jeffro503 wrote:
God damn.....you guys ALL speculate to damn much! I'm with GuyB on this one......lets just watch the race and see where the dice fall. I have...
God damn.....you guys ALL speculate to damn much! I'm with GuyB on this one......lets just watch the race and see where the dice fall. I have a good feeling who will be strong and who won't.....but i wouldn't bet on anything just yet.

Another good point GuyB brought up......"they have to make it through all 24 friggin' motos!"....no matter how fast they are!

One thing is for sure.....there is going to be some great racing in BOTH classes!

That much we can at least all agree on i hope!
mxgoon wrote:
What's the point of having a message board if your not going to speculate? Sitting onthe fence is as boring as bat shit. I'm with little...
What's the point of having a message board if your not going to speculate?

Sitting onthe fence is as boring as bat shit.

I'm with little dave on this one. He may not win GH but he will be right on the battle with RV for the title.

MA will be fast too but not sure if he can hold it together for 24.
I didn't say debating wasn't a good thing. I'm saying some guys take it to far and damn near want to fight to death ( with words) to support who "they" think is going to win. Everyone should be rooting for their favorite rider for sure......but there are a lot of guys who "think" they know , or "hope" their rider is going to win. All i want is some good racing.....that's it. Just look at the thread title......should we just give Reed the title? HAHA!!.....NO!

Honestly....yaeh , it's all speculation. So you can speculate all you want. But whatever happens at G.H. this next weekend....is just a peek at what the rest of the series is going to be like. Who's going to make it through the whole season without injuries? You can bet there will probably be a good 10-20% of the fast guys out with injury before these 24 motos are finished.
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5/19/2009 5:54pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:59pm
Pdub wrote:
That's it folks, stick a fork it in: the National Motocross championship was decided the moment the Thunder from Down Under decided to toss in his...
That's it folks, stick a fork it in: the National Motocross championship was decided the moment the Thunder from Down Under decided to toss in his entry form. Reed wins the title in a walk, if the sign-ups stay the way they are now...

Don't get me wrong, RV and company will certainly make it fun to watch, but Speedy Reedy is on a mission to get the title so long denied.
man for a cool dude you sound like a dick. Smile
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kxking wrote:
I'm sorry, but if anybody is heading to GH with a pocket full of confidence it is Mike Alessi. With JS7 not confirmed MA should be...
I'm sorry, but if anybody is heading to GH with a pocket full of confidence it is Mike Alessi. With JS7 not confirmed MA should be the favorite, He smoked everybody else last year consistantly and should have no problem doing it again, he gets great starts and doesn't fade to the back like he does in SX. RV and Reed will be fast and close by ,but I think MA WILL hold it on longer and wick it up faster outdoors where he is way more comfortable.

GH O/A
1. MA
2. CR
3. RV
LOL... "a pocketful of confidence" .... uh... dude, the last time he raced outside he got run over by about 20 guys, and supercross, well, never mindUnsure

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5/19/2009 5:58pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:59pm
Pdub wrote:
That's it folks, stick a fork it in: the National Motocross championship was decided the moment the Thunder from Down Under decided to toss in his...
That's it folks, stick a fork it in: the National Motocross championship was decided the moment the Thunder from Down Under decided to toss in his entry form. Reed wins the title in a walk, if the sign-ups stay the way they are now...

Don't get me wrong, RV and company will certainly make it fun to watch, but Speedy Reedy is on a mission to get the title so long denied.
I've got RV. He's gonna stomp them Paul!!


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GuyB wrote:
I think there will be some actual racing for the title. They also have to make it through 24 motos.
Thats why its going to be a great season.
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Reed will not go balls out until he needs to. I think he will raise the bar and force RV and/or MA to ride a little over their heads towards the end of the series. Reed is a seasoned vet in the premier class...world-wide.

A lot of people here seem to forget what a power-house Reed is without RC or JS. When he did race the outdoor series he was always a championship threat and I'm sure he didn't forget how to do it.

MA was super strong last year and he made a fan out of me, but he didn't have RV in the class. RV has a couple of championships under his belt whereas MA does not. MA will have so much more pressure on him than RV.

I believe Reed will win the title but not easily. I pick MA for second after RV gets slightly injured while trying to run at Reed's pace. MA will not try to match Reed's pace and be extremely consistent.
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Reed will not be comfortable running RVs pace outdoors . End of story .
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The only reason Reed would win the title is because he's super consistent. But not because he is the fastest.
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I just hope to see at least 3 or 4 different guys win.
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Reed won't even be the top Suzuki...

Alessi and Villo can both beat Reed outdoors, and Short and Windham can give him a good run. Reed is a great supercross rider but he won't hang it out enough to win a title outdoors.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Reed has only won 1 national in his career. That's in 6 years of trying.
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Hey fella, we need to hook up and go ride Rio before it gets too dang hot.
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WhKnuckle wrote:
Reed won't even be the top Suzuki... Alessi and Villo can both beat Reed outdoors, and Short and Windham can give him a good run. Reed...
Reed won't even be the top Suzuki...

Alessi and Villo can both beat Reed outdoors, and Short and Windham can give him a good run. Reed is a great supercross rider but he won't hang it out enough to win a title outdoors.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Reed has only won 1 national in his career. That's in 6 years of trying.
lol

How many has MA won? And, against who? Smile


Correct me if I'm wrong (seriously), but doesn't Reed have a World Championship under his belt?
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WhKnuckle wrote:
Reed won't even be the top Suzuki... Alessi and Villo can both beat Reed outdoors, and Short and Windham can give him a good run. Reed...
Reed won't even be the top Suzuki...

Alessi and Villo can both beat Reed outdoors, and Short and Windham can give him a good run. Reed is a great supercross rider but he won't hang it out enough to win a title outdoors.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Reed has only won 1 national in his career. That's in 6 years of trying.
ridge wrote:
lol

How many has MA won? And, against who? Smile


Correct me if I'm wrong (seriously), but doesn't Reed have a World Championship under his belt?
No Reed placed 2nd. Will #800 be the same speed as last year or faster ??? He would have to be faster to beat RV ???
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Racer92 wrote:
Hey fella, we need to hook up and go ride Rio before it gets too dang hot.
I'd love to - I'm in Florida now, but I think I'll have this wrapped up before the weekend if you want to get in a few laps. Let's tag up toward the end of the week and we'll see what's up.
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WhKnuckle wrote:
Reed won't even be the top Suzuki... Alessi and Villo can both beat Reed outdoors, and Short and Windham can give him a good run. Reed...
Reed won't even be the top Suzuki...

Alessi and Villo can both beat Reed outdoors, and Short and Windham can give him a good run. Reed is a great supercross rider but he won't hang it out enough to win a title outdoors.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Reed has only won 1 national in his career. That's in 6 years of trying.
ridge wrote:
lol

How many has MA won? And, against who? Smile


Correct me if I'm wrong (seriously), but doesn't Reed have a World Championship under his belt?
I don't know exactly how many Alessi has won, but it's more than one.
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WhKnuckle wrote:
I'd love to - I'm in Florida now, but I think I'll have this wrapped up before the weekend if you want to get in a...
I'd love to - I'm in Florida now, but I think I'll have this wrapped up before the weekend if you want to get in a few laps. Let's tag up toward the end of the week and we'll see what's up.
Sounds good, will catch up friday.
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WhKnuckle wrote:
Reed won't even be the top Suzuki... Alessi and Villo can both beat Reed outdoors, and Short and Windham can give him a good run. Reed...
Reed won't even be the top Suzuki...

Alessi and Villo can both beat Reed outdoors, and Short and Windham can give him a good run. Reed is a great supercross rider but he won't hang it out enough to win a title outdoors.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Reed has only won 1 national in his career. That's in 6 years of trying.
ridge wrote:
lol

How many has MA won? And, against who? Smile


Correct me if I'm wrong (seriously), but doesn't Reed have a World Championship under his belt?
WhKnuckle wrote:
I don't know exactly how many Alessi has won, but it's more than one.
I tried to look it up and it doesn't look like he has won very much on the outdoor circuits!


On a different subject, I'm looking for a little help before the TX national for my rider. Do you know of practice tracks in your area that are similar to Freestone? I'm not sure when we will get there...it kind of depends on where there is to practice. We could be there as early as Tuesday after Hangtown.
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If JS doesn't race the entire series, CR will be the favorite, but I don't think he's gonna walk away with it. RV2 is carrying some momentum out of SX and I just don't think CR is in everyone's head the way JS is.
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ridge wrote:
lol

How many has MA won? And, against who? Smile


Correct me if I'm wrong (seriously), but doesn't Reed have a World Championship under his belt?
WhKnuckle wrote:
I don't know exactly how many Alessi has won, but it's more than one.
ridge wrote:
I tried to look it up and it doesn't look like he has won very much on the outdoor circuits! On a different subject, I'm looking...
I tried to look it up and it doesn't look like he has won very much on the outdoor circuits!


On a different subject, I'm looking for a little help before the TX national for my rider. Do you know of practice tracks in your area that are similar to Freestone? I'm not sure when we will get there...it kind of depends on where there is to practice. We could be there as early as Tuesday after Hangtown.
It's not really similar to Freestone, but 3 Palms probably has the most variety in terrain and it's a great place to train. Swann and Oak Hill would probably be good places, too. There's a great sand track called Montalba that's real close to Freestone. Traditionally, Rio Bravo is one of the rougher tracks in the area but the new owners are prepping it more than they used to. As National tracks go, Freestone isn't that difficult of a layout - it's a great place for racing, but it doesn't really have a specific "oh, shit" section that a rider would need to practice for. In my opinion, getting acclimated to some heat and humidity and getting used to softer dirt is probably more important than practice on a particular type of obstacle. Sometimes it's not too bad in early June but you can bet the combination of heat and humidity will take some getting used to if someone doesn't live in the Gulf Coast area.
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WhKnuckle wrote:
I don't know exactly how many Alessi has won, but it's more than one.
ridge wrote:
I tried to look it up and it doesn't look like he has won very much on the outdoor circuits! On a different subject, I'm looking...
I tried to look it up and it doesn't look like he has won very much on the outdoor circuits!


On a different subject, I'm looking for a little help before the TX national for my rider. Do you know of practice tracks in your area that are similar to Freestone? I'm not sure when we will get there...it kind of depends on where there is to practice. We could be there as early as Tuesday after Hangtown.
WhKnuckle wrote:
It's not really similar to Freestone, but 3 Palms probably has the most variety in terrain and it's a great place to train. Swann and Oak...
It's not really similar to Freestone, but 3 Palms probably has the most variety in terrain and it's a great place to train. Swann and Oak Hill would probably be good places, too. There's a great sand track called Montalba that's real close to Freestone. Traditionally, Rio Bravo is one of the rougher tracks in the area but the new owners are prepping it more than they used to. As National tracks go, Freestone isn't that difficult of a layout - it's a great place for racing, but it doesn't really have a specific "oh, shit" section that a rider would need to practice for. In my opinion, getting acclimated to some heat and humidity and getting used to softer dirt is probably more important than practice on a particular type of obstacle. Sometimes it's not too bad in early June but you can bet the combination of heat and humidity will take some getting used to if someone doesn't live in the Gulf Coast area.
I just re-read my post and I was talking about Reed's record on the outdoor tracks.


Thanks for the info.
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RV will win GH, everyone will give him the title but low and behold its 12 rounds and Reed will be there at the end.

5/19/2009 8:36pm
Seems noone here is remembering Cody Coopers nice season last yr outdoors and this year he's on top notch equipment. It would be nice to see5-6 different overall winners this season. It's shaping up to be one helluva year outdoors in both classes.
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ridge wrote:
Reed will not go balls out until he needs to. I think he will raise the bar and force RV and/or MA to ride a little...
Reed will not go balls out until he needs to. I think he will raise the bar and force RV and/or MA to ride a little over their heads towards the end of the series. Reed is a seasoned vet in the premier class...world-wide.

A lot of people here seem to forget what a power-house Reed is without RC or JS. When he did race the outdoor series he was always a championship threat and I'm sure he didn't forget how to do it.

MA was super strong last year and he made a fan out of me, but he didn't have RV in the class. RV has a couple of championships under his belt whereas MA does not. MA will have so much more pressure on him than RV.

I believe Reed will win the title but not easily. I pick MA for second after RV gets slightly injured while trying to run at Reed's pace. MA will not try to match Reed's pace and be extremely consistent.
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5/19/2009 9:02pm
I'd love to see Reed win, he is my new favorite rider and he deserves the title. But anyone who thinks it will be easy with RV there is fooling themselves -- and it appears that J-Law is hauling balls too. It is shaping up to be a great season.
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Pdub wrote:
That's it folks, stick a fork it in: the National Motocross championship was decided the moment the Thunder from Down Under decided to toss in his...
That's it folks, stick a fork it in: the National Motocross championship was decided the moment the Thunder from Down Under decided to toss in his entry form. Reed wins the title in a walk, if the sign-ups stay the way they are now...

Don't get me wrong, RV and company will certainly make it fun to watch, but Speedy Reedy is on a mission to get the title so long denied.
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man for a cool dude you sound like a dick.
man for a cool dude you sound like a dick. Smile
LOL Hey man, I have mad respect for all of those guys (and girls!) for taking on the toughest challenge in sports. I just think Chad's got the strongest hand...He's certainly on the strongest team.

Wait. You don't think Chad will be top dawg at RockMakSuz? Dayum, I DO sound like a dick, huh? Wink

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