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drmarkr 5/13/2009 1:29am
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Ah, I just got what everyone means. If anyone thinks something racist was intended by the jungle drums comment, I can assure you it wasn't intended...
Ah, I just got what everyone means. If anyone thinks something racist was intended by the jungle drums comment, I can assure you it wasn't intended that way. It's always been used to describe incoming rumors, etc.
The guy who smells it first is usually the guy that did it......

unfucking real.
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Titan wrote:
Does anyone REALLY think RV would be able to hang with JS on an outdoor track? does anyone really think anyone would be able to hang...
Does anyone REALLY think RV would be able to hang with JS on an outdoor track? does anyone really think anyone would be able to hang with JS on an outdoor track, for that matter?

If James races, another perfect season is the likely outcome.
ChrisB wrote:
Yes, RV can hang... I don't believe that RV would let James mindfuck him like Chad did.

The mind fuck comes with the week after week ass beatings. RV is already like Reed in SX. If Stewart raced the outdoors It would take 2-3 weeks for the denial to go away for RV and he would be just like Mike Alessi last yr. Stewart races on a level non of the current riders will ever reach.
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`ol Ger 5/13/2009 3:51am
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Titan wrote:
Does anyone REALLY think RV would be able to hang with JS on an outdoor track? does anyone really think anyone would be able to hang...
Does anyone REALLY think RV would be able to hang with JS on an outdoor track? does anyone really think anyone would be able to hang with JS on an outdoor track, for that matter?

If James races, another perfect season is the likely outcome.
Yes I think that. Easily.

Carmichael spanked him for 3 seasons. If the top guys would stay healthy, stewart couldn't have a perfect season.


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GuyB wrote:
Ah, I just got what everyone means. If anyone thinks something racist was intended by the jungle drums comment, I can assure you it wasn't intended...
Ah, I just got what everyone means. If anyone thinks something racist was intended by the jungle drums comment, I can assure you it wasn't intended that way. It's always been used to describe incoming rumors, etc.
Guy B is the same Guy on here,that you meet at the track. Good guy here,and good guy there.He's no boneponey.Wink

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GuyB wrote:
I hear he was out there today...and flying. Faster than RV? That's what I hear.
There is nothing surprising about that.....It's the few people is dream land that have convinced themselves and a few others, that RV is faster. Stewart will go out there and shut every one up like usual.
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Titan 5/13/2009 9:22am
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ChrisB wrote:
I guess you missed him at the des nations...

Talk to me on the 24th...
Was RV on a 450 at the des nations?

Didn't think so..

IF you would take the time to read what I wrote, you'd see that I said I haven't seen RV do anything on a 450 to prove he's any faster than the rest of the factory guys....

And if on the 24th, James races, and RV keeps him honest then yeah I'll talk to you on the 24th.

And if James doesn't race, and RV goes 24 and 0, then I'll give your poitn some credibility.
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mccread 5/13/2009 9:28am
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Titan wrote:
Does anyone REALLY think RV would be able to hang with JS on an outdoor track? does anyone really think anyone would be able to hang...
Does anyone REALLY think RV would be able to hang with JS on an outdoor track? does anyone really think anyone would be able to hang with JS on an outdoor track, for that matter?

If James races, another perfect season is the likely outcome.
I believe Cairoli is James closest compeitior
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I hope he does ride. And as far as the title, if anyone tries to turn it into crap, don't stop to smell it, looking is just fine and you will know what it is.
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ChrisB wrote:
I guess you missed him at the des nations...

Talk to me on the 24th...
Titan wrote:
Was RV on a 450 at the des nations? Didn't think so.. IF you would take the time to read what I wrote, you'd see that...
Was RV on a 450 at the des nations?

Didn't think so..

IF you would take the time to read what I wrote, you'd see that I said I haven't seen RV do anything on a 450 to prove he's any faster than the rest of the factory guys....

And if on the 24th, James races, and RV keeps him honest then yeah I'll talk to you on the 24th.

And if James doesn't race, and RV goes 24 and 0, then I'll give your poitn some credibility.
Cool, and IF Villopoto doesn't do some heavy damage in his ROOKIE season on a 450, I will give you a public apology... I'd even offer up a wager, buuut, we still don't know who's racing.

BTW, not sure about your logic on the des nations, he beat the field on a bike with much less horsepower and 1/2 the torque, so, that was an advantage?
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Titan 5/13/2009 9:31am
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Titan wrote:
Does anyone REALLY think RV would be able to hang with JS on an outdoor track? does anyone really think anyone would be able to hang...
Does anyone REALLY think RV would be able to hang with JS on an outdoor track? does anyone really think anyone would be able to hang with JS on an outdoor track, for that matter?

If James races, another perfect season is the likely outcome.
`ol Ger wrote:
Yes I think that. Easily.

Carmichael spanked him for 3 seasons. If the top guys would stay healthy, stewart couldn't have a perfect season.


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Well, I think you're dillusional in that regard (and only in that regard). But that's just my opinion. We can agree to disagree...

I just hope James races, so we'll get a chance to find out..
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Titan 5/13/2009 9:33am
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Titan wrote:
Does anyone REALLY think RV would be able to hang with JS on an outdoor track? does anyone really think anyone would be able to hang...
Does anyone REALLY think RV would be able to hang with JS on an outdoor track? does anyone really think anyone would be able to hang with JS on an outdoor track, for that matter?

If James races, another perfect season is the likely outcome.
mccread wrote:
I believe Cairoli is James closest compeitior
And I don't believe James has any "close" competitors at all...but if he does, chances it will be someone racing in America currently.
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Titan 5/13/2009 9:35am
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ChrisB wrote:
I guess you missed him at the des nations...

Talk to me on the 24th...
Titan wrote:
Was RV on a 450 at the des nations? Didn't think so.. IF you would take the time to read what I wrote, you'd see that...
Was RV on a 450 at the des nations?

Didn't think so..

IF you would take the time to read what I wrote, you'd see that I said I haven't seen RV do anything on a 450 to prove he's any faster than the rest of the factory guys....

And if on the 24th, James races, and RV keeps him honest then yeah I'll talk to you on the 24th.

And if James doesn't race, and RV goes 24 and 0, then I'll give your poitn some credibility.
ChrisB wrote:
Cool, and IF Villopoto doesn't do some heavy damage in his ROOKIE season on a 450, I will give you a public apology... I'd even offer...
Cool, and IF Villopoto doesn't do some heavy damage in his ROOKIE season on a 450, I will give you a public apology... I'd even offer up a wager, buuut, we still don't know who's racing.

BTW, not sure about your logic on the des nations, he beat the field on a bike with much less horsepower and 1/2 the torque, so, that was an advantage?
There is a big difference between a 250f and a 450...Being fast on a 250 doesn't automatically mean someone is going to faster on a 450 right away. It takes time, as an example just look at all the top pros that had really ROUGH rookies years in the big bike class (RC, JS included).

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catatonic 5/13/2009 9:39am
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ChrisB wrote:
I guess you missed him at the des nations...

Talk to me on the 24th...
Titan wrote:
Was RV on a 450 at the des nations? Didn't think so.. IF you would take the time to read what I wrote, you'd see that...
Was RV on a 450 at the des nations?

Didn't think so..

IF you would take the time to read what I wrote, you'd see that I said I haven't seen RV do anything on a 450 to prove he's any faster than the rest of the factory guys....

And if on the 24th, James races, and RV keeps him honest then yeah I'll talk to you on the 24th.

And if James doesn't race, and RV goes 24 and 0, then I'll give your poitn some credibility.
ChrisB wrote:
Cool, and IF Villopoto doesn't do some heavy damage in his ROOKIE season on a 450, I will give you a public apology... I'd even offer...
Cool, and IF Villopoto doesn't do some heavy damage in his ROOKIE season on a 450, I will give you a public apology... I'd even offer up a wager, buuut, we still don't know who's racing.

BTW, not sure about your logic on the des nations, he beat the field on a bike with much less horsepower and 1/2 the torque, so, that was an advantage?
A 250f for the most part is not an advantage .....but.....some guy's/tracks are better suited to a bike you can hold wide open and not worry about throttle control. A PC 250f should not be compared in any way to any other breed anyway.....a PC 250f doesnt know its a 250f Laughing
Lotta guys can light up a small bore like an animal but cant come to terms witha big bike......with that said I dont think Villipoto is one of those guys. I think outdoors where he can twist it with a little more abandon he's gonna rip.
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huck 5/13/2009 9:39am
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Grendel wrote:
I believe he meant the "jungle drums".
project racer wrote:
yeah, kind of on the edge there .
williamsmotowerx wrote:
I honestly kind of laughed to myself at this and thought the same thing... but knew exactly what GuyB meant.

Now if Huck said it.....
Hey now...


I chuckled a little to myself too, and thought, what would have been the response had I issued the same thread?

I guess you reap what you sow... Cool
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I'll buy that, but, the kid won 2 450 supercross races and got on the box a couple of other times against James and Chad, yet he is known to be more of an outdoor guy.

So, we will see, but I know where my money would go... sayin

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jtomasik 5/13/2009 9:47am
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Titan wrote:
Does anyone REALLY think RV would be able to hang with JS on an outdoor track? does anyone really think anyone would be able to hang...
Does anyone REALLY think RV would be able to hang with JS on an outdoor track? does anyone really think anyone would be able to hang with JS on an outdoor track, for that matter?

If James races, another perfect season is the likely outcome.
Yeah, I think RV has a shot. He showed some great times during the MXDN against RC, and RC beat Stewart outdoors regularly that year. Can RV stay consistently faster than Stew? I'd doubt it. But, I think he has a better chance than anyone, provided his 450 transition works well. If RV gets close enough, it's been historically proven that JS's gets rattled and ends up on the ground.

Another perfect season? Possibly. However, if RV and Reed can be there, at least we'd have guys who have enough speed to regularly get close to Stew and possibly force mistakes.
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jtomasik 5/13/2009 9:49am
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project racer wrote:
yeah, kind of on the edge there .
williamsmotowerx wrote:
I honestly kind of laughed to myself at this and thought the same thing... but knew exactly what GuyB meant.

Now if Huck said it.....
huck wrote:
Hey now... I chuckled a little to myself too, and thought, what would have been the response had I issued the same thread? I guess you...
Hey now...


I chuckled a little to myself too, and thought, what would have been the response had I issued the same thread?

I guess you reap what you sow... Cool
If you said it, Lenny would be all over your shit. Since it's Guyb, it's no big deal. Double standards are awesome.
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Big Lenny 5/13/2009 9:57am
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MX479Guy wrote:
Did you happen to miss RV race the MXDN's?

He laid it to everyone, including James Stewart.
You're fuckin' stupid, James didn't even race, and the year he did, he went down picked up in about 8th place, caught, passed , and left RV...

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KBehlingMX wrote:
No offense, but I don't really know of any national caliber tracks "up north". Maybe E Street? R-town could easily replace some of the current nationals...
No offense, but I don't really know of any national caliber tracks "up north".

Maybe E Street?

R-town could easily replace some of the current nationals. It gets rented out quite often and for good reason.
Maybe Honey Lake?
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Big Lenny 5/13/2009 10:03am
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GuyB wrote:
Ah, I just got what everyone means. If anyone thinks something racist was intended by the jungle drums comment, I can assure you it wasn't intended...
Ah, I just got what everyone means. If anyone thinks something racist was intended by the jungle drums comment, I can assure you it wasn't intended that way. It's always been used to describe incoming rumors, etc.
They don't get it, I've never seen you fish, and if so, you're pretty damn good...
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Big Lenny wrote:
They don't get it, I've never seen you fish, and if so, you're pretty damn good...


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catatonic wrote:
A 250f for the most part is not an advantage .....but.....some guy's/tracks are better suited to a bike you can hold wide open and not worry...
A 250f for the most part is not an advantage .....but.....some guy's/tracks are better suited to a bike you can hold wide open and not worry about throttle control. A PC 250f should not be compared in any way to any other breed anyway.....a PC 250f doesnt know its a 250f Laughing
Lotta guys can light up a small bore like an animal but cant come to terms witha big bike......with that said I dont think Villipoto is one of those guys. I think outdoors where he can twist it with a little more abandon he's gonna rip.
RV's bike doesn't have a throttle, just an on/off switch...
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Big Lenny 5/13/2009 10:06am
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GuyB wrote:
Gotcha. My guess is that James would know nothing was intended by it.
Maybe you should've said "Smoke Signals"....Wink
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Big Lenny 5/13/2009 10:08am
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Big Lenny wrote:
They don't get it, I've never seen you fish, and if so, you're pretty damn good...
huck wrote:
[img]https://zedomax.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/brownnose.jpg[/img]


A little jealous because I beat you to it?...
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jtomasik 5/13/2009 10:10am
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Big Lenny wrote:
They don't get it, I've never seen you fish, and if so, you're pretty damn good...
huck wrote:
[img]https://zedomax.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/brownnose.jpg[/img]


Big Lenny wrote:
A little jealous because I beat you to it?...
If we could only get you two together at the Cooperland ride...it'd be like watching a married couple go at it.
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GuyB 5/13/2009 10:10am
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Okay, here's something I was thinking of last night...

Who knows what Ryan was testing yesterday? Test days are just that...testing. Race days are racing.

If James lines up at GH? That'll be fun to watch.

GH did seem a bit smoother than usual last season, but even on a "smooth" day there, you've got an insane amount of big jumps, and enough huge uphills and downhills that I'm sure you'll feel that one for a few days afterwards.

One final thing. The posting style here over the last day or two reminded me that I need to sticky the posting rules up on top of the Moto-Related page again. Some of you are slipping...
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Big Lenny wrote:
Maybe you should've said "Smoke Signals"....Wink
And then someone would have said I was dissing the San Manuels. You can't win.
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If we could only get you two together at the Cooperland ride...it'd be like watching a married couple go at it.
It's been laid out for him. So far...he'd get $240.00 if he shows up. That'd just about pay for his airfare. It's up to him...I guess he's all talk.
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Big Lenny 5/13/2009 10:17am
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Titan wrote:
Does anyone REALLY think RV would be able to hang with JS on an outdoor track? does anyone really think anyone would be able to hang...
Does anyone REALLY think RV would be able to hang with JS on an outdoor track? does anyone really think anyone would be able to hang with JS on an outdoor track, for that matter?

If James races, another perfect season is the likely outcome.
`ol Ger wrote:
Yes I think that. Easily.

Carmichael spanked him for 3 seasons. If the top guys would stay healthy, stewart couldn't have a perfect season.


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Titan wrote:
Well, I think you're dillusional in that regard (and only in that regard). But that's just my opinion. We can agree to disagree... I just hope...
Well, I think you're dillusional in that regard (and only in that regard). But that's just my opinion. We can agree to disagree...

I just hope James races, so we'll get a chance to find out..
Ol' Ger stills think Rocky Marciano is boxing...
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Big Lenny 5/13/2009 10:22am
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jtomasik wrote:
If we could only get you two together at the Cooperland ride...it'd be like watching a married couple go at it.
huck wrote:
It's been laid out for him. So far...he'd get $240.00 if he shows up. That'd just about pay for his airfare. It's up to him...I guess...
It's been laid out for him. So far...he'd get $240.00 if he shows up. That'd just about pay for his airfare. It's up to him...I guess he's all talk.
Huck's one of my favorite posters, and I'd enjoy meeting you guy's, but I got some "personal" shit going on now that won't allow me to leave, because I'd have jumped on that offer, it's practically too good to pass up...

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