Badly Broken Collarbone,*updated*

GCBC
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Everyone, I really need some help here as I’m in big trouble and my racing career and likely driver development & coaching business is in jeopardy if I cant be strapped tight in a 5pt harness in a 1.5g car... The issue as I understand it is that almost all broken collarbones are simple two piece breaks that have enough material on both end to put screws in and then brace with 2 or more plates making it a very easy and simple fix allowing the patient to immediately have range of motion again and continue light duty activities until bone fusion is successful.

My situation however is that the shoulder side is shattered where the ligaments are attached to the bone fragments making a good repair more difficult as it isn’t two clean ends to just bridge.
I believe the solution is to perhaps focus first on the shoulder side to make it one “clean” piece to give it shape & structure then connect it to the rest of the bone via a rod, pins, screws and braces or a combination. I would also be ok having the ligaments plated over to allow bone fusion to occur then have a 2nd surgery to remove said plate.

This isn’t a bone that’s been smashed into powder or pummeled beyond recognition so I don’t know why I’m getting recommend around to Dr’s that keep saying it needs surgery but it’s beyond what I can do. They don’t even need to see me, I am led to believe it’s because everyone in my area only sees senior’s and easy 97% success rate jobs and mine takes extra attention they aren’t willing to give. I’m not sure...there are no other unique circumstances, tissue damages or strange puzzle pieces. It is as simple as a perfectly healthy athlete in dire need of help who’s quickly becoming a victim/falling thru the cracks of the system.

If you have any any advice or would like to see me I can send the disc of these files are not enough. I know this is THE place to reach out.

Im in Pittsburgh and also have a home in ft lauderdale. Would fly anywhere on east coast ideally, for a fix.








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RONJ OSE
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6/29/2019 6:54am
Looks pretty fucked up
How’d you do it?
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6/29/2019 7:58am Edited Date/Time 6/29/2019 8:02am
RONJ OSE wrote:
Looks pretty fucked up
How’d you do it?
pretty sure I went collarbone into a guys back tire. landed fine off a step-up but some guy parked it on the back side (blind landing) and I know I swerved enough of the bike to not hit him but I came off and thats the last thing I recall besides screaming and crawling away from the landing zone so I didn't get landed on.
Er said they couldn't fix it and recommend me out, saw that person and said same thing, went to that person said this is more complicated than I've done and recommended, and just went to that guy and said ive done a lot of collarbones but never seen one like this.

Here I am completely screwed and getting passed around continuously. Hoping a pro racers or FMX guys doc on here sees this and I can fly out!
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6/29/2019 8:36am
Doesn’t seem like anything a skilled doctor can’t repair. Surely there are some sports surgeons in your area. In our area we have many doctors who love working on complex things. Look for doctors who specialize in complex repairs like spine surgeon because often times they or others in their practice also work on other things not just spine. Call them and ask who they would recommend.
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6/29/2019 9:08am
RONJ OSE wrote:
Looks pretty fucked up
How’d you do it?
GCBC wrote:
pretty sure I went collarbone into a guys back tire. landed fine off a step-up but some guy parked it on the back side (blind landing)...
pretty sure I went collarbone into a guys back tire. landed fine off a step-up but some guy parked it on the back side (blind landing) and I know I swerved enough of the bike to not hit him but I came off and thats the last thing I recall besides screaming and crawling away from the landing zone so I didn't get landed on.
Er said they couldn't fix it and recommend me out, saw that person and said same thing, went to that person said this is more complicated than I've done and recommended, and just went to that guy and said ive done a lot of collarbones but never seen one like this.

Here I am completely screwed and getting passed around continuously. Hoping a pro racers or FMX guys doc on here sees this and I can fly out!
Sounds like it hurt
We have a family friend who is a spine/ neck surgeon I’ll check with him
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6/29/2019 4:35pm Edited Date/Time 6/29/2019 4:38pm
Eric,

Try this www.aaos.org

American Association of Orthopaedic Surgeons

Or just come to Houston Medical center, several different Surgeons that can handle that shoulder.

My go to guy Mark Adikes. www.jocktodoc.com
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6/29/2019 10:38pm
Post over on Thumpertalk in the health and fitness forum. The Doc there has done a lot of collarbones on racers with good results. He's in Texas.
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RONJ OSE
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Spoke with my guy, said really any good doctor/ surgeon should be able to fix it easy. He also recommended Huston med center says there’s plenty of good docs there that can take care of it.
He said he would love to help but busy af
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6/30/2019 4:50pm
I'm going to my guy Tuesday.
If he'll give me an extra moment, I'll have him take a look.
He's not an orthropod, but is a shoulder specialist.
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7/2/2019 9:23am Edited Date/Time 2/16/2020 5:22pm
Thank you for everyones help and recommendations. I sent my X-rays out to more people and the only ones that would look at them and said yes I can do it coincidentally is one younger local guy. I am going under the knife tomorrow morning.
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GCBC wrote:
Thank you for everyones help and recommendations. I sent my X-rays out to more people and the only ones that would look at them and said...
Thank you for everyones help and recommendations. I sent my X-rays out to more people and the only ones that would look at them and said yes I can do it coincidentally is one younger local guy. I am going under the knife tomorrow morning.
Good luck bro. Just a note of encouragement, I have had lung surgery several times. The first time I had surgery the doctor was a renowned lung surgeon. Best in his field in the entire DFW area. He did an awful job on me and I am still tender in the operation area 20 years later.

A few years later after first surgery I needed another surgery on the other lung and at the time I was in another city. Surgery was performed by a general surgeon who had an interest in pulmonary. He was young, not much experience with what I was dealing with but had an interest. He did a fantastic job and later performed other lung operations on me. I still have his name and number should I need his help again.

Someone who is going to take their time and be meticulous, though maybe less experienced, is better then an experienced doctor who gets you in and out as if you were just another number...

That's my opinion only. Good luck!
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7/2/2019 7:32pm
GCBC wrote:
Thank you for everyones help and recommendations. I sent my X-rays out to more people and the only ones that would look at them and said...
Thank you for everyones help and recommendations. I sent my X-rays out to more people and the only ones that would look at them and said yes I can do it coincidentally is one younger local guy. I am going under the knife tomorrow morning.
You should have a faster and less painful recovery. No loose bones floating around in there. No non-unions or mal-unions. As long as you are healthy your bones should knit right up. You might be able to have the metal removed later.
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So what ended up happening
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7/8/2019 1:16pm Edited Date/Time 7/8/2019 1:25pm
having an extremely painful recovery. have tried a half dozen different drugs and nothing is working on the pain to get it low enough I can sleep. when I came out of surgery I was in 11/10 pain and couldn't even breathe for about 3hrs as I was just grunting thru my clenched jaw and writhing in agony. I would have jumped out the window if I could have sat up. Pain was a 9/10 for the next 36hrs then dropped to an 8. about a 7right now. oh and I didn't pee for 2days due to the painkillers that didnt even kill pain. still haven't pooped. pain so bad I can't even feel my broken ribs anymore.



have to have a 2nd surgery once the bone starts healing.

this nickel and dime bullshit I am so beyond. been out for 15yrs from some wrist surgeries and lingering pain for last 13yrs get back into it and shouldn't have been this hurt and I'm guarantee a full yr off the bike now... I didnt crash off a huge jump or anything and I got this badly hurt just from hitting another guys bike. id never be able to hit big jumps now.

im totally done forever.
selling everything.

back to racing cars and Superbikes
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7/8/2019 6:25pm
Milk of magnesia for the constipation. . .

Time will ease the pain. . . .

Been there too
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Da ummm guy.
That has got to be a hurtin.
Looks like a barn door hinge with a few lag bolts thrown in.

Hey, like piston slap said, it will get better with time.

Even so, nothing wrong with movin on to other things. I went to boats when this this stuff almost killed and maimed me for life the first time.
And don't regret it a bit.

Something, anything isn't treating you and your life like you think it should, get rid of that something, no matter what it is.

It's a big world out there, with a lotta stuff going on........
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7/11/2019 4:51pm Edited Date/Time 7/11/2019 4:52pm
Hey how about an update, how’s it coming along? Hopefully the pain level has started to subside.

I had a similar situation to yours, requiring a difficult surgery, I had a young but really good orthopedic surgeon who fixed me up although he says he had to throw the play books away and throw a couple of hail mary passes to get it done. Recovery was hell, like yours, I’m assuming because of how intrusive it was.

It took a very long time, so I was having a lot of doubts, but 15 months later I have to say it’s healed up closer to perfect than he or I ever thought it was ever going to be.

What’s your second surgery for, to remove that long screw?
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2/16/2020 5:13pm Edited Date/Time 2/16/2020 5:21pm
long over due update....

2nd surgery was back in September, removed the big screw holding the mess and locking the collarbone and shoulder in place. recovery had some issues, big one was someone screwed up my incubation tube in my throat and ripped the living hell out of it. nothing bad happened with shoulder tho... life became much more normal 2 weeks after that. still can't lay flat on back on ground or have any pressure on that side. have to sleep in weird position propped up. still

ribs, elbow, back, everything else has healed and the collar bone is well on its way. just had my 3rd surgery on valentines day. easiest surgery of my life. no complications, went in removed most of the hardware except 2 screws. came to after surgery and didn't even take a single pain pill or ibuprofen all the way to right now from lunch time on V-day! like a 3.5 out of 10 on the pain scale! Couldn't pee for a full day at all, still having trouble right now but its coming out (anestisia). I can type and eat with the arm but that's all I should be doing for a month...

Don't have the X-ray pic after surgery to show but it is a piece of Swiss cheese right now altho it is back in one piece.

I have some internal sutures holding some soft tissue together (besides the obvious external ones and now that's the hold up for range of motion and healing. once the inside heals I can get the range of motion and start doing 10lb weights and putting around the farm on a bike, living a normal life again. Im told its going to be ANOTHER 20-25weeks until the bone is completely healed. that said I'm going to get an X-ray every 4-6weeks to monitor progress.


Im going to start riding in 30-40days around my house assuming this next x ray some of the holes are showing singes of closing and the reforming process is smoothing over. but its going to be really gently, cutting thru the trail and brush just to make lines again. Until I can do jumping pushups pull-ups and roll around on the ground like im on fire with the shoulder I shouldn't be hammering whoops or risking a fall





I was totally wrong about being done forever. sold all my shit and am regretting it so hard.







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