Best cross country bike

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Best cross country bike and why go

Bikes like the yz250 ktm 250xc
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5/16/2019 2:28pm
KTM300XC because, it is.
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5/16/2019 2:44pm
Husky 300TX because linkage. KTM still has the PDS rear end in the XC.
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5/16/2019 3:16pm
Grimace wrote:
Husky 300TX because linkage. KTM still has the PDS rear end in the XC.
not true. XC-W has Linkage. XC and TX300 are the same bike
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250xc if you still want a bike to rip on tracks or 300xc if you’re mostly into single track

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The Yamaha FX line is amazing! Better stock suspension than the KTM's and Husky's....The four strokes are amazing. And the two stroke has been proven over and over again.
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KTM/Husky 300XC or 350XCF
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#RZRNick
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5/16/2019 4:36pm
KTM/Husky 300XC or 350XCF
It's not even a discussion.... hands down
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5/16/2019 5:02pm Edited Date/Time 5/16/2019 5:03pm
If more people had a chance to ride one (or see one) they would know.

KYB, e-start with a kicker, counter balancer, build quality second to none and now priced lower than a KTM.

I’ve have been beyond impressed with the handling and smooth power of the ‘19 TM

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ccullins wrote:
If more people had a chance to ride one (or see one) they would know. KYB, e-start with a kicker, counter balancer, build quality second to...
If more people had a chance to ride one (or see one) they would know.

KYB, e-start with a kicker, counter balancer, build quality second to none and now priced lower than a KTM.

I’ve have been beyond impressed with the handling and smooth power of the ‘19 TM

300 and cheaper than a KTM/Husky? I'd seriously look at this.

TM knows how to build HP also. Their Kart engines are as good as anything, or better.
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Haven't tried the Yamaha but I LOVE my TX300. I can use it for Enduro and even on the Motocross track with some suspension adjustments
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5/16/2019 7:13pm Edited Date/Time 5/16/2019 7:28pm
When you say Cross Country it depends on what you mean, although that typically means West Coast and Enduro means East Coast in the U.S.

CCullins is correct, the TM has made a big leap forward this year based on Danny Mckanney's results in EnduroGP, it is nipping at Beta's heels now. (Unfortunately Steve Holcombe seems to have a mystery virus making it impossible for him to sustain the normal level of physical output) For the 1st time in over a year Steve and the Beta have lost the lead in the EnduroGP series and it is upsetting to me Angry

Luckily he lost the lead to another Beta, this time Brad Freeman and his Boano Special have assumed the championship leadLaughing So Beta still 1&2. Those guys rock the 2t's but I don't think they are the top weapon for the West Coast or MX.
http://www.enduromagazine.com/endurogp-brad-freeman-se-impone-en-el-pri…

For the West Coast the Big 6, Worcs and the Hare and Hound and Scrambles Series are like the GNCC and Enduro's in the East.
Beta is pursuing the West Coast Hare Scramble Series where they hold 1st and 2nd and 4th,http://www.moto-tally.com/whs/standings.aspx and Hare and Hound where they also currently hold 1st. 4th and 5th, and 1st in the 250 2t class as well, so in my book they sit atop the throne and are fending off contenders.Woohoo http://moto-tally.com/nhha/standings.aspx
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When you say Cross Country it depends on what you mean, although that typically means West Coast and Enduro means East Coast in the U.S. CCullins...
When you say Cross Country it depends on what you mean, although that typically means West Coast and Enduro means East Coast in the U.S.

CCullins is correct, the TM has made a big leap forward this year based on Danny Mckanney's results in EnduroGP, it is nipping at Beta's heels now. (Unfortunately Steve Holcombe seems to have a mystery virus making it impossible for him to sustain the normal level of physical output) For the 1st time in over a year Steve and the Beta have lost the lead in the EnduroGP series and it is upsetting to me Angry

Luckily he lost the lead to another Beta, this time Brad Freeman and his Boano Special have assumed the championship leadLaughing So Beta still 1&2. Those guys rock the 2t's but I don't think they are the top weapon for the West Coast or MX.
http://www.enduromagazine.com/endurogp-brad-freeman-se-impone-en-el-pri…

For the West Coast the Big 6, Worcs and the Hare and Hound and Scrambles Series are like the GNCC and Enduro's in the East.
Beta is pursuing the West Coast Hare Scramble Series where they hold 1st and 2nd and 4th,http://www.moto-tally.com/whs/standings.aspx and Hare and Hound where they also currently hold 1st. 4th and 5th, and 1st in the 250 2t class as well, so in my book they sit atop the throne and are fending off contenders.Woohoo http://moto-tally.com/nhha/standings.aspx
Beta is doing great in the National Hare and Hound series too.
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I have a ‘17 KTM 450 XC-F and it’s pretty hard to beat for cross country races like GNCC/Hare Scrambles/Grand Prix type stuff.

It’s just as light as the KTM XC 2 strokes and it’s got the power to beat just about any other XC bike into the first corner on the start.

For cross-country I think this is the best bike. For hard enduro I would probably prefer a 250 or 300cc 2 stroke.
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5/16/2019 8:24pm
Grimace wrote:
Husky 300TX because linkage. KTM still has the PDS rear end in the XC.
try again
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I haven’t ridden a yz250 or a 300xc but every time I think of deviating from my ‘16 250xc I just can’t justify it. If I came across a 300 cylinder I’d probably try it out on my bike I suppose.

My last bike was a 200xc. It ripped pretty good but it just wasn’t enough in the open A class since I weigh 195 without gear.

My next new bike will be a leftover 250sx. I plan to put a larger tank, hand guards, skid plate, revalve the suspension and go.
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5/16/2019 8:42pm
When you say Cross Country it depends on what you mean, although that typically means West Coast and Enduro means East Coast in the U.S. CCullins...
When you say Cross Country it depends on what you mean, although that typically means West Coast and Enduro means East Coast in the U.S.

CCullins is correct, the TM has made a big leap forward this year based on Danny Mckanney's results in EnduroGP, it is nipping at Beta's heels now. (Unfortunately Steve Holcombe seems to have a mystery virus making it impossible for him to sustain the normal level of physical output) For the 1st time in over a year Steve and the Beta have lost the lead in the EnduroGP series and it is upsetting to me Angry

Luckily he lost the lead to another Beta, this time Brad Freeman and his Boano Special have assumed the championship leadLaughing So Beta still 1&2. Those guys rock the 2t's but I don't think they are the top weapon for the West Coast or MX.
http://www.enduromagazine.com/endurogp-brad-freeman-se-impone-en-el-pri…

For the West Coast the Big 6, Worcs and the Hare and Hound and Scrambles Series are like the GNCC and Enduro's in the East.
Beta is pursuing the West Coast Hare Scramble Series where they hold 1st and 2nd and 4th,http://www.moto-tally.com/whs/standings.aspx and Hare and Hound where they also currently hold 1st. 4th and 5th, and 1st in the 250 2t class as well, so in my book they sit atop the throne and are fending off contenders.Woohoo http://moto-tally.com/nhha/standings.aspx
By offroad I mean alot of wide open riding GP tracks closing down to a single track but the wide open desert riding is about 60-80% of the race then it will get tight and narrow. I've rode both the ktm 250xc and the yz250x but there super similar except the yz250x paddles your head off and has a more powerful power band (both 2019's)
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I'll throw in another vote for the KTM 300XC or the Husky TX300 ( Ihave a TX300 myself). It really depends on the terrain, rider fitness, etc. I came off a 2017 FC450 to my TX300 and the 300 is way easier to go fast for 1.5 hours than the 450 was. It does give up some speed to the 450 in the faster sections, but when it gets tight or technical the 300 shines.
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KDX 200. Just ask Jeff Fredette ?
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When you say Cross Country it depends on what you mean, although that typically means West Coast and Enduro means East Coast in the U.S. CCullins...
When you say Cross Country it depends on what you mean, although that typically means West Coast and Enduro means East Coast in the U.S.

CCullins is correct, the TM has made a big leap forward this year based on Danny Mckanney's results in EnduroGP, it is nipping at Beta's heels now. (Unfortunately Steve Holcombe seems to have a mystery virus making it impossible for him to sustain the normal level of physical output) For the 1st time in over a year Steve and the Beta have lost the lead in the EnduroGP series and it is upsetting to me Angry

Luckily he lost the lead to another Beta, this time Brad Freeman and his Boano Special have assumed the championship leadLaughing So Beta still 1&2. Those guys rock the 2t's but I don't think they are the top weapon for the West Coast or MX.
http://www.enduromagazine.com/endurogp-brad-freeman-se-impone-en-el-pri…

For the West Coast the Big 6, Worcs and the Hare and Hound and Scrambles Series are like the GNCC and Enduro's in the East.
Beta is pursuing the West Coast Hare Scramble Series where they hold 1st and 2nd and 4th,http://www.moto-tally.com/whs/standings.aspx and Hare and Hound where they also currently hold 1st. 4th and 5th, and 1st in the 250 2t class as well, so in my book they sit atop the throne and are fending off contenders.Woohoo http://moto-tally.com/nhha/standings.aspx
By offroad I mean alot of wide open riding GP tracks closing down to a single track but the wide open desert riding is about 60-80% of the race then it will get tight and narrow. I've rode both the ktm 250xc and the yz250x but there super similar except the yz250x paddles your head off and has a more powerful power band (both 2019's)
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KTM 300XC for sure... But I'd do the GASGAS 300XC just because I like to be a little different.

The TM's are bitchen, but a bit quirky at times...

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I rode a 19 300xc last week and I was blown away by the engine. I don't know what I was expecting, but it was unreal linear, and hauled the mail when you needed it.

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Press516 wrote:
KTM 300XC for sure... But I'd do the GASGAS 300XC just because I like to be a little different. The TM's are bitchen, but a bit...
KTM 300XC for sure... But I'd do the GASGAS 300XC just because I like to be a little different.

The TM's are bitchen, but a bit quirky at times...

You’d be crazy to buy a gas gas over a ktm or husky. Especially right now.
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Press516 wrote:
KTM 300XC for sure... But I'd do the GASGAS 300XC just because I like to be a little different. The TM's are bitchen, but a bit...
KTM 300XC for sure... But I'd do the GASGAS 300XC just because I like to be a little different.

The TM's are bitchen, but a bit quirky at times...

agn5009 wrote:
You’d be crazy to buy a gas gas over a ktm or husky. Especially right now.
I just did one month ago..... And after exchanging bikes with a mate who has a Husqvarna 250.... I do not regret at all....(do not know if I will if anything happens to the factory). But prefer 100% the gas gas over the husky (mind European husky has the xplor forks)
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Husky FX350. So am biased! It is pretty sweet everywhere and has awesome top end. Great for moto also. If you want east coast tight stuff, go with a TE300. The Beta, Sherco, and GasGas are great options also for the tight stuff.
5/18/2019 6:02am
Finally a good topic! haha.

For west coat GP style races, I'd honestly get a 350 or 450 four stroke. The 2-strokes are fine, but the 4-stroke will feel better in high-speed chop. Can't go wrong with a KTM or a Husky. I had a 17 450XC-F and it was a great bike. I sold it to get a 19 300XC and that's perfect for my type of riding (tight, technical, and hard enduro). If I were to ride a GNCC or something out west where it's open I'd want my 450 back in a heartbeat.

I've also been fortunate enough to have friends who like European offroad bikes. If I had to rank them (2 strokes) down it would be in this fashion:
1. KTM/Husky 300 XC/TX. Has everything you'd want. Hydraulic clutch, e-start, counter balancer, kick backup, and solid AER suspension. The downside is the carb (If you don't get the new TPI bikes). They can be a bit finicky. I put a Slaven's Mule Lectron on mine and it's been solid ever since.

2. Sherco 300. This would be my choice bike BUT after you've ridden a bike with a counter balancer the Sherco feels like it's going to vibrate you to death. This bike turns like none other. Absolutely love how well it can cut through the trees.

3. TM 300. The new TM is awesome. My buddy's new 19 is great, but it can be a bit finicky at times. I also don't care for the frame. To me, it feels like the front end is too high and heavy. That could just be the way he has it set up.

4. Beta 300. Smooth. This could be 3rd, but I'm a bit taller and when sitting on this bike it's a bit too cramped for me. If you're a taller rider you may feel the same way.

5. GasGas 300. Feels like an older KTM clone.

6. YZ 250X. It's a fine bike. I like the suspension and snap, but that's where it ends. The age shows when comparing it against the above bikes.

All of the above-bikes are solid. The top 5 i think comes down to rider preference as any of them could win. I'd include the YZ, but it just needs some updates. I'd be interested in one if it got a translucent 2.5-3 gallon tank, hydraulic clutch, e-start, and a counter balancer. Yeah, most of these things can be added for relatively low cost, but Id rather buy a bike with it installed as standard equipment.

If I had to buy a new bike RIGHT now, I'd go for the new 2020 KTM 300XC with TPI or the equivalent Husky TX300i.

Oh - and it seems the 'moto-ness' is shining through in some of the above posts. The XC-W has PDS, the XC has linkage as well as the husky offroad ranges (TE & TX). The beta, TM, and Sherco are all linkage-based.
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I like my YZ250FX a lot, great all around bike. Was just in Spain riding with Jarvis and ran a Husky 300 TPi, perfect bike for the terrain there. Lots of great XC bikes out there, depends on what you like to ride really.
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Tuna wrote:
I like my YZ250FX a lot, great all around bike. Was just in Spain riding with Jarvis and ran a Husky 300 TPi, perfect bike for...
I like my YZ250FX a lot, great all around bike. Was just in Spain riding with Jarvis and ran a Husky 300 TPi, perfect bike for the terrain there. Lots of great XC bikes out there, depends on what you like to ride really.
Exactly this I like the 250fx the best. Ive owned or ridden them all. But others are good too.
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Press516 wrote:
KTM 300XC for sure... But I'd do the GASGAS 300XC just because I like to be a little different. The TM's are bitchen, but a bit...
KTM 300XC for sure... But I'd do the GASGAS 300XC just because I like to be a little different.

The TM's are bitchen, but a bit quirky at times...

agn5009 wrote:
You’d be crazy to buy a gas gas over a ktm or husky. Especially right now.
Berni wrote:
I just did one month ago..... And after exchanging bikes with a mate who has a Husqvarna 250.... I do not regret at all....(do not know...
I just did one month ago..... And after exchanging bikes with a mate who has a Husqvarna 250.... I do not regret at all....(do not know if I will if anything happens to the factory). But prefer 100% the gas gas over the husky (mind European husky has the xplor forks)
You’re comparing a GasGas 300 to a Husky 250. That’s your first mistake.

The GasGas and older model KTM’s feel exactly the same. You might as well saved a ton of money and found a nice used 2014 KTM 300.

Gas Gas is one Fugly bike as well Wink
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agn5009 wrote:
You’d be crazy to buy a gas gas over a ktm or husky. Especially right now.
Berni wrote:
I just did one month ago..... And after exchanging bikes with a mate who has a Husqvarna 250.... I do not regret at all....(do not know...
I just did one month ago..... And after exchanging bikes with a mate who has a Husqvarna 250.... I do not regret at all....(do not know if I will if anything happens to the factory). But prefer 100% the gas gas over the husky (mind European husky has the xplor forks)
agn5009 wrote:
You’re comparing a GasGas 300 to a Husky 250. That’s your first mistake. The GasGas and older model KTM’s feel exactly the same. You might as...
You’re comparing a GasGas 300 to a Husky 250. That’s your first mistake.

The GasGas and older model KTM’s feel exactly the same. You might as well saved a ton of money and found a nice used 2014 KTM 300.

Gas Gas is one Fugly bike as well Wink
I had a 2012 KTM which is the same as the 2014..... And suspensions in the those KTM SUCKS. The gas gas is MUCH more stable
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Berni wrote:
I just did one month ago..... And after exchanging bikes with a mate who has a Husqvarna 250.... I do not regret at all....(do not know...
I just did one month ago..... And after exchanging bikes with a mate who has a Husqvarna 250.... I do not regret at all....(do not know if I will if anything happens to the factory). But prefer 100% the gas gas over the husky (mind European husky has the xplor forks)
agn5009 wrote:
You’re comparing a GasGas 300 to a Husky 250. That’s your first mistake. The GasGas and older model KTM’s feel exactly the same. You might as...
You’re comparing a GasGas 300 to a Husky 250. That’s your first mistake.

The GasGas and older model KTM’s feel exactly the same. You might as well saved a ton of money and found a nice used 2014 KTM 300.

Gas Gas is one Fugly bike as well Wink
Berni wrote:
I had a 2012 KTM which is the same as the 2014..... And suspensions in the those KTM SUCKS. The gas gas is MUCH more stable
I’m just bustin’ your chops Smile

They are a good bike. I don’t like them as much as the KTM/Huskys or the Sherco’s, but they’re good bikes nonetheless. I would have concerns over the company supposedly folding though.
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