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Oooohhh sick burn!.....somehow I believe him
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-If there would have been no fuss about it, I would say "Very typical for an MXA web dealy...same look and feel as all the "we like MXA for the honesty" stuff that some fans say they like. (Not my style, but I would see value in it as real info from a racing manager, at least his view that he chooses to communicate.)
-MXA doesn't run it's columns from racing people through a fluff filter. It didn't have whipped cream and a bow on it.
-Larry is not a PR professional, but his opinions seem real.
-Larry is up against a professional, experienced, and networked system that makes sure heretics get harassed until they quit communicating outside the message. Some of the fans that start the whining will not be fans, but they know what buttons to push because fans are reactive and easy to set off.
-Larry's column wasn't on RX.com. That says something already, plus his rider, the only Stewart there is, has a deal to not ride the RX publisher's new series. "Poison the well" situation waiting to happen.
-Larry tried to communicate directly before (right after signing Reed SX only I think?), and the response was the same.
-A lot of the bad feelings fans have about SX only is real, a lot is certainly exploited and encouraged.
(All the ad homos on the previous page didn't say anything new or worth responding to.)
in reality more like 99%
1st James wont ever ever NOT thank something/someone by mistake on the podium.
2nd It was established at Budds Creek national in 07 that the top trio didnt want to ride the outdoors because of the people/politics behind it, otherwise they would love to do outdoors.
3rd. James needs the powers that be to be on his side for future negotiations and its contract time, therefore in distancing himself from rouge manager Brooks he's gaining kudos to be cashed in later.
I see JBS on the Joe Gibbs team next year or on Suzuki if Reed retires/loses the title.
Could your agenda be any less transparent?
for the record I didn't want this to turn into a Larry Brooks bash fest, that honestly wasn't my motivation. I had no problem with anything he ever wrote in MXA.
My point was only that the industry pays way to much attention to the message boards and that attention is "flaming the fire", so to speak. That was it. My intent was nothing more than that, and I used LB as an example because it was, well, the perfect example.
those anti-lds sites?
I don't care much for your conspiracy theories. I don't believe them, and I just don't see the motive.
If the "industry" wanted to sway the "opinions" of the MX fan base they would have to do it on a much broader scale than just the message boards.
As someone pointed out, 99% of Americans don't give a damn about this industry, and of the 1% of the population that do care about this sport, I'd venture that less than 1% of them actually read the message boards (and even less than that post), so for the "industry" to care what such an extremely small percentage of their overall fan base thinks about something, is pure comedy to me. Pure small-time comedy.
The industry shouldn't give a damn what less than 1% of their overall fan base thinks.
The message boards hardly represent the "opinion" of the entire MX fan base. And for the industry to let such a small and insignificant "tail" wag the entire "dog" makes about as much sense as entering you in a beauty contest.
Now, I know you're one that tried to leverage your pull with MT to gain some ground in the industry. You wanted to make the message boards MORE important in the industry. So what I"m saying really goes against the grain with you. But I think you're letting your proverbial ax grinding session cloud your clear thinking.
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I thought MX upbringing gives you all a thicker skin???
Man, if I stopped writing, talking, commentating because of the intardnet nation, I would be 100% broke.
No matter WHERE you work, you're going to have to deal with politics, ass kissing, elitist, pompuss assholes and back stabbing. It's a fact of life EVERYONE regardless of the field they work in, has to deal with.
So, if it's just the politics, ass kissing, elitists and pompuss assholes that make you want to leave the MX industry...well, the grass isn't greener on this side of the fence, so you may as well stay where you're at. (If you want to leave for other reasons, then that's your thing).
Can someone tell me who this Larry Brooks is?
What is it that you don't believe, specifically?
No one ever said putting a website on "message watch" made sense or is rational.
I know first hand that its true, and why its true. What I wrote a few posts above is accurate and I heard it from the horse's mouth, in detail. The motive is there and it was explained already.
(They don't use the term "message watch." The do use the term "We can't lose control of the message." That's a quote from the source, and the context of the discussion was about websites like this one, and others.)
remember what the great Kinks sang about a few years back....
As long as the site stays small and disinterested he's good.
You are as leash-free as your options!
Sometimes "off limits" topics disappear quickly, but they are probably just fragile and break on their own.
If you have watched road racing sites over the years, you would notice they totally throw down on that stuff, some over the top. MX sites can't. Not allowed. Explained above so no need to repeat.
ad hom too BTW, fucktard.
That guy is out of control.
I'd need these questions answered before I could believe any "conspiracy" is real.
Who is the "industry"? (Is it the AMA? Mags? FIM? Manufactures? Retailers? Suppliers? Journalists? Photogs? Riders? Team Managers? Mechanics? Agents? Promotors? Who exactly is the person/group that wants to control "the message"?....I think the "industry" is all of the above.)
Since there is no clear "owner" or "Leader" of the entire "industry", is it realistic to assume that all the independent parties involved would have the same "message" they want "controlled"? No! The riders would want a different message than the promoters and the magazines a different message than the sactioning bodies, etc.
So again, who, exactly, is trying to not "lose control of the message"? It makes no sense that all the independent parties involved in the industry would unit under a common "message"....
The likelyhood of a conspiracy theory being true is related to the number of people that would have be involved to pull it off (the more people required to pull it off, the less likely it is to be true....because the more people involved the more likely it is someone is going not do their part or spill the beans).
And for your "The industry is trying to contol the message" conspriacy theory to be true, there would have to be far more people on board and involved to actually pull it off.
And even IF (and it is one huge mu fuckin' "IF") your conspiracy theory were true, why in the hell would this industry give a damn what such a small percentage of the fan base even thinks?
Answer those questions?
I explained it enough already and you are just dragging it on and on, plus its obvious all you want to do is argue the opposite forever. Maybe you just want me to name names to make it blow up. I don't want to.
If I wrote a book, you would argue every line of the book. Its not that important. i don't do this anymore and I gave you facts and some hindsight, that's all. I don't have any motive to convince someone who responds like that, or try any harder. What I said is accurate and real, and from first hand experience, and its still real. If you say it ain't so, your choice.
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