Webb Vulnerability Exposed

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Edited Date/Time 3/10/2019 8:36pm
With Marvin all over him, Webb kept the hammer down. Let him by and ride comfortably in 3rd?
He wants it bad. Can he manage that speed?
Webb rarely crashes...he may be GREAT. He may be one of the most sound technical riders we have seen in decades. El Hombre would have checked his composure by now....
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Webb was cruising in 2nd when Marvin pressured him he turned it up.
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GeorgiePorgie 3/10/2019 9:00am
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Here we go.Between the FMOTP posts and the If rider 'x' was racing, then rider 'y' wouldn't even be winnin dis championship arguments...........not sure which one is more stupid.


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Lucky JS7 didn’t show up. He would’ve jumped those whoops over that wall and proceeded to five in on that rhythm section Tongue
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dirty1974 3/10/2019 9:04am
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before the end of the season i see Webb crash out ! one time it will be the "moment" to much , he has to many .
i hope this doesn't happen but it looks to me he wants it to much .
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Whether you like Webb or not, one thing cannot be denied, that guy has shown real maturity and composure on the bike this year. Several aspects of his performances this season really show championship potential:

#1 Get good starts consistently.

#2 When his starts are 4th-5th or worse, he is able to move forward and get ahead of good riders, even if he is not the fastest guy on the night.

#3 Cooper has shown the ability to ride and focus ahead and not fold when he is pressured from behind. Some riders can be forced into mistakes pretty quickly and it's tough to win a premier title if you're that guy.
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GeorgiePorgie wrote:
Here we go.Between the FMOTP posts and the If rider 'x' was racing, then rider 'y' wouldn't even be winnin dis championship arguments...........not sure which one...
Here we go.Between the FMOTP posts and the If rider 'x' was racing, then rider 'y' wouldn't even be winnin dis championship arguments...........not sure which one is more stupid.


The one about pre load fer sure
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doesn't really have one to speak of.
Sir Roostsalot 3/10/2019 9:32am
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Webb's vulnerability has to be his wrist that plagued him for several seazons, remember? How many injuries was it? Is it 100%?
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dirty1974 wrote:
before the end of the season i see Webb crash out ! one time it will be the "moment" to much , he has to many...
before the end of the season i see Webb crash out ! one time it will be the "moment" to much , he has to many .
i hope this doesn't happen but it looks to me he wants it to much .
You could say the same with forkner.
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Predicting a Crash, Bad Start or bad finish over 17 weeks of racing is like Predicting the Sun will come up in the East and set in the West.
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JS7 will get his factory ECU soon, you just wait
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freebroctickle 3/10/2019 10:23am
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Webb has shown surprisingly few vulnerabilities this season IMO. Last night's broadcast made a good point that he isn't squeezed by the vise-like pressure to get those contractually obligated wins like Tomac, Musquin or Roczen are, so his head is a lot lighter and clearer. It shows on the track. You can also tell that Webb's new dominance is totally unnerving to ET3, MM25 and KR94 - esp. the latter two. Both Marvin and Ken, usually flawless technicians, have bungled in very uncharacteristic ways this season.

Webb's being the 2019 SX champion is becoming more probable with every passing week. So it won't be until next season that we see how he can truly handle pressure...whether he can soldier on to win multiple titles like Dungey, or quickly spirals out like Anderson.
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Jbulz 3/10/2019 10:32am
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Extremely impressed with Webb this season, but I have to agree with OP on his post. It worked out for Webb this time, but man him and Musquin were getting squirrelly in that battle.

On one side the smart/safe thing to do is Webb could have "Dungey'd" it and backed off for 3rd place to manage his points and bring his risk level way down. Probably the most realistic way for Cooper to bring the championship home.

On the other side, the competitive/sports psych component is really important these guys. Backing down and letting Marv pass him let's Marv know that Webb will roll over when pressured.

Webb rode like an animal and is trying to break Musquin and establish himself as top dog at the baker's factory.
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Sierra Ranger 3/10/2019 10:49am
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Watching Webb and Marvin last night was the tortoise and the hare. Not that Webb is a tortoise, but slow and steady wins the race. Marv was frantic, you can tell it's now or never for him.
Webb seems to stiffen under pressure and rides very, very protectively. I think as he gets more used to leading and running top 3 he will loosen up. My biggest worry for him is that is going to ride not to lose, instead of riding to win, and the points will get chipped away.
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Kawi15 3/10/2019 11:15am
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I have no idea what the OP was trying to say, but I do not think Webb was showing vulnerabilities last night. He showed great composure and strenth to do enough to keep his position under a bit of testing.
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With Marvin all over him, Webb kept the hammer down. Let him by and ride comfortably in 3rd? He wants it bad. Can he manage that...
With Marvin all over him, Webb kept the hammer down. Let him by and ride comfortably in 3rd?
He wants it bad. Can he manage that speed?
Webb rarely crashes...he may be GREAT. He may be one of the most sound technical riders we have seen in decades. El Hombre would have checked his composure by now....
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KTM#88 3/10/2019 11:30am
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Thought it was a great ride by Webb, started off slow getting passed by savagty etc. Regrouped, passed them all back and stayed 6/7 seconds behind tomac the whole race. Everyone was going to have there moments the track was gnarly
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JB 19 3/10/2019 12:30pm
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Head games.....Cooper is playing them in spades and the other guys don't even know it. That 2nd place finish was big time head games. Day time lap times, best looking kit, "do it for the gram".... yada yada....its all good until the race is over and Cooper found another way to extend his points lead.

I said it before, he looks like a hardened racer in a crowd of practice track burners.
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bsharkey 3/10/2019 12:31pm
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This is webbs title this year. he has shown that at any time he can beat any of them and smart enough to back it down and not crash out at the same time. Barring a mechanical dnf I don't see even eli winning out. A lot more of the top guys have managed to stay healthy this year then in previous years the field isn't totally depleted and there's a few big players out. I think we're gonna have to wait till outdoors to see the whole Eli Cooper Webb battle play out
StartedTooLate 3/10/2019 12:54pm
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From a championship perspective, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. Webb has virtually no vulnerabilities. Webb is like Dunge but with more raw speed. You knew RD would ALWAYS be on the podium...and if things went perfect (or he got a break like RV/Tomac making a big mistake), he would win a race. Webb on the KTM is one better. He does not "need things to go perfect to get a win". He can win straight up. Is he as fast, at his best, as Tomac is, when at HIS best? NO WAY. Tomac is sort of like Stew in this respect. When he is on, he will beat the field by two straightaways. But winning by 20s does not get you any more points than winning by .02s. Webb rides like a champion. Tomac rides like someone who is not human, when he is on...but he gives up way too many points when he is not in the groove.
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Anonymous wrote:
With Marvin all over him, Webb kept the hammer down. Let him by and ride comfortably in 3rd? He wants it bad. Can he manage that...
With Marvin all over him, Webb kept the hammer down. Let him by and ride comfortably in 3rd?
He wants it bad. Can he manage that speed?
Webb rarely crashes...he may be GREAT. He may be one of the most sound technical riders we have seen in decades. El Hombre would have checked his composure by now....
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Well Clouseau, seems many do understand what the topic is.
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StartedTooLate wrote:
From a championship perspective, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. Webb has virtually no vulnerabilities. Webb is like Dunge but with more raw speed. You knew RD...
From a championship perspective, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. Webb has virtually no vulnerabilities. Webb is like Dunge but with more raw speed. You knew RD would ALWAYS be on the podium...and if things went perfect (or he got a break like RV/Tomac making a big mistake), he would win a race. Webb on the KTM is one better. He does not "need things to go perfect to get a win". He can win straight up. Is he as fast, at his best, as Tomac is, when at HIS best? NO WAY. Tomac is sort of like Stew in this respect. When he is on, he will beat the field by two straightaways. But winning by 20s does not get you any more points than winning by .02s. Webb rides like a champion. Tomac rides like someone who is not human, when he is on...but he gives up way too many points when he is not in the groove.
Was thinking this today... but Webb has to produce a couple championships before being compared to the Dunge.


If Marv and Eli can keep applying pressure to the last round... we are in for a hell of a ride. Awesome time to be a fan!
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Webb 110 pounds
Moosecan 140 pounds
Tomac 160 pounds
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StartedTooLate wrote:
From a championship perspective, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. Webb has virtually no vulnerabilities. Webb is like Dunge but with more raw speed. You knew RD...
From a championship perspective, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. Webb has virtually no vulnerabilities. Webb is like Dunge but with more raw speed. You knew RD would ALWAYS be on the podium...and if things went perfect (or he got a break like RV/Tomac making a big mistake), he would win a race. Webb on the KTM is one better. He does not "need things to go perfect to get a win". He can win straight up. Is he as fast, at his best, as Tomac is, when at HIS best? NO WAY. Tomac is sort of like Stew in this respect. When he is on, he will beat the field by two straightaways. But winning by 20s does not get you any more points than winning by .02s. Webb rides like a champion. Tomac rides like someone who is not human, when he is on...but he gives up way too many points when he is not in the groove.
Dungey is 6th all time in supercross wins. I don’t think he was gifted that many wins on nights when things just happened to go perfectly. RD still doesn’t get the respect he deserves imo.

I’m a big Webb fan too.
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RandyS 3/10/2019 4:30pm
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Last week Webb added 9 point to his lead over Tomac, yesterday Tomac cut 3 and everyone's thinking Eli is going to string together 7 perfect weekends, LOL, good luck with that. The biggest threat to Webb is Marvin and Roczen.
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RandyS wrote:
Last week Webb added 9 point to his lead over Tomac, yesterday Tomac cut 3 and everyone's thinking Eli is going to string together 7 perfect...
Last week Webb added 9 point to his lead over Tomac, yesterday Tomac cut 3 and everyone's thinking Eli is going to string together 7 perfect weekends, LOL, good luck with that. The biggest threat to Webb is Marvin and Roczen.
You mean the two dudes that havent won a race yet but were totally expected to?

Im not going to deny that Eli has his moments but through it all he has the 2nd most number of wins and is now 2nd in pts and by far webbs biggest challenger at this point.

If 94 or 25 wants to even get close they better start winning or at least beating the number 2. With the way the past 6 weeks have went even if they finish 2nd and 3rd in the championship webb will have wrapped it up at least 1 round early based on the results of 94 and 25.
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Spooner 3/10/2019 6:16pm
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No idea what the OP is even saying but Webb is riding like a boss. How can you not root for the guy with how bad his 450 career had been going. I wasn't always a fan of his attitude in the past but humble looks good on him and he's riding with a ton of heart.
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