Ryan Dungey drawing .

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jemcee 12/9/2018 3:46pm
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EZZA 95B wrote:
I was just watching old cartoons on Youtube, Super Ted, Banana Man, Lucky Luke... Now I'm gonna go go watch Gadget!
I worked on the Gadget movie they made in Brisbane haha (Inspector Gadget 2) nothing important just the Art Department runner which is essentially a glorified courier haha..
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Robgvx 12/9/2018 4:58pm
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For the record, my posts on Vital are my original works of art. No one has permission to use them for any gain either monetary or...
For the record, my posts on Vital are my original works of art. No one has permission to use them for any gain either monetary or for fame or notoriety. By quoting my posts you have gained fame and notoriety and would be violating copyright law. Your response to my posts, although original, would not have existed without my original work of art. Therefore, you have benefited or profited from my original work of art.
My photo. Copy or draw it at your peril.


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Nighttrain 12/9/2018 5:33pm
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brimx153 wrote:
It's a lot harder to get a portrait fully spot on than a drawing of a bike, This is fully hand drawn too [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/12/08/308442/s1200_23592099_1499820203405455_2169079923175356013_o.jpg[/img]
It's a lot harder to get a portrait fully spot on than a drawing of a bike,
This is fully hand drawn too
You are very talented and I really like the two drawings you’ve posted. This one looks like Ragnar from one of my favorite shows, “Vikings”.
Langhammx 12/9/2018 6:48pm
12/9/2018 6:48pm
brimx153 wrote:
I am after swoping the drawing for some air brakes. But if you wanted a drawing of yourself or a certain rider done and you have...
I am after swoping the drawing for some air brakes. But if you wanted a drawing of yourself or a certain rider done and you have any spare parts gear goggles etc I'd do a swop with you no bother .give me a shout on brianandersonart@gmail.com
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Hi , sorry I just noticed I wrote my e mail down wrong last night . I was half asleep .I've edited it now . Just...
Hi , sorry I just noticed I wrote my e mail down wrong last night . I was half asleep .I've edited it now . Just incase anyone sent an email to the wrong address . Its brianandersonart@gmail.com
Got your email and responded

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Sully 12/9/2018 6:54pm
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FGR01 wrote:
For the record, my posts on Vital are my original works of art. No one has permission to use them for any gain either monetary or...
For the record, my posts on Vital are my original works of art. No one has permission to use them for any gain either monetary or for fame or notoriety. By quoting my posts you have gained fame and notoriety and would be violating copyright law. Your response to my posts, although original, would not have existed without my original work of art. Therefore, you have benefited or profited from my original work of art.
Robgvx wrote:
My photo. Copy or draw it at your peril. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/12/09/308741/s1200_93FEC669_DEC0_4074_8348_1B4F61AE3DB5.jpg[/img]
My photo. Copy or draw it at your peril.


This was shot with US government equipment (i.e. taxpayer funded), so it's considered public domain. Not the same thing as the photo the OP is based off of.
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MotoMo165 12/9/2018 7:23pm
12/9/2018 7:23pm
OP and GuyB should make a business that sells drawings of really bad ass pictures. Guy shoots the pictures, OP draws them, and both profit from sells.
But in this case...... you get the idea.

I can understand the annoyance from the photogs after looking at it from that perspective. But at first I didn’t think OP had done anything wrong. Bad ass drawing(‘s), and you definitely have quite the eye OP, nice work.
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motogrady 12/9/2018 8:06pm
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MotoMo165 wrote:
OP and GuyB should make a business that sells drawings of really bad ass pictures. Guy shoots the pictures, OP draws them, and both profit from...
OP and GuyB should make a business that sells drawings of really bad ass pictures. Guy shoots the pictures, OP draws them, and both profit from sells.
But in this case...... you get the idea.

I can understand the annoyance from the photogs after looking at it from that perspective. But at first I didn’t think OP had done anything wrong. Bad ass drawing(‘s), and you definitely have quite the eye OP, nice work.


Hey, he's got the talent to do something for sure.

I remember reading about this self taught artist that was selling Harley Davidson paintings he did, at flea markets.
This guy walks up and tells him you can't do that, I work for HD, and we don't have or let anyone do that.
The artist says "well, maybe you should".
This was back when they were working their way out of the AMF hole.

A month later they hire him, make him head of whatever dept that handles art and poster work.
And like a lot of top guys at HD, became a millionaire.

Motomo might be on to something....

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brimx153 12/9/2018 8:48pm
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brimx153 wrote:
It's a lot harder to get a portrait fully spot on than a drawing of a bike, This is fully hand drawn too [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/12/08/308442/s1200_23592099_1499820203405455_2169079923175356013_o.jpg[/img]
It's a lot harder to get a portrait fully spot on than a drawing of a bike,
This is fully hand drawn too
Nighttrain wrote:
You are very talented and I really like the two drawings you’ve posted. This one looks like Ragnar from one of my favorite shows, “Vikings”.
Yea its ragnar , my favourite show too . It's made here in Ireland, I have loads of friends who do extras on it and on game of thrones
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CozMan 12/10/2018 2:36pm
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cudby wrote:
All I said is it’s my photo. That’s all.
Johnny Smokes wrote:
Take a hike Cudby
GuyB wrote:
...and...you can take a break from posting. Have a smidge of respect. Anonymity makes for "brave" posters. I'm actually not sure that the Dungey photo's not...
...and...you can take a break from posting. Have a smidge of respect.

Anonymity makes for "brave" posters.

I'm actually not sure that the Dungey photo's not mine, but I understand Simon's frustration with people poaching copyrighted materials for whatever purpose, especially without asking.

As an example, there's a company that sells t-shirts, that has a network of Instagram accounts that poach photos of mine all the time. If I ask them to remove them, it's nothing but crickets.
that's embarrassing and you should stop.

Am I banned now?
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GuyB 12/10/2018 2:56pm
12/10/2018 2:56pm
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that's embarrassing and you should stop.

Am I banned now?
Well, the other account was pretty much a troll account. Are you a troll, too? Smile
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CozMan 12/10/2018 2:59pm
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CozMan wrote:
that's embarrassing and you should stop.

Am I banned now?
GuyB wrote:
Well, the other account was pretty much a troll account. Are you a troll, too? Smile
hysterical.
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GuyB 12/10/2018 3:03pm
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CozMan wrote:
hysterical.
Apparently, you're not banned. At least so far.
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kkawboy14 12/10/2018 5:48pm
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Just curious if Cudby and others paid the rider for that picture that they would want someone else to pay them for?

Probably doesn’t matter....

Probably in the fine print when they pay to race that they give up thier rights to getting part of the cut from their images being resold!
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SKIDLID 12/10/2018 6:00pm
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kkawboy14 wrote:
Just curious if Cudby and others paid the rider for that picture that they would want someone else to pay them for? Probably doesn’t matter.... Probably...
Just curious if Cudby and others paid the rider for that picture that they would want someone else to pay them for?

Probably doesn’t matter....

Probably in the fine print when they pay to race that they give up thier rights to getting part of the cut from their images being resold!
Pretty sure the ama owns the right to their image. When I raced snocross you signed a paper giving them the right to your image.
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TXDirt 12/10/2018 6:23pm
12/10/2018 6:23pm
Thank goodness the do-gooders killed this. He was well on his way to building the next Berkshire Hathaway of hand drawn motocross pictures. Building an empire on other people’s backs. Outrageous!!!
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Sully 12/10/2018 6:42pm
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There's a lot of ignorant posts in this thread by people who don't normally post like that.
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offroad44b 12/11/2018 6:04am
12/11/2018 6:04am
damn I liked cudby....

who are some other good moto photographers I can start following?
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Langhammx 12/11/2018 10:12am
12/11/2018 10:12am
Sully wrote:
There's a lot of ignorant posts in this thread by people who don't normally post like that.
Agreed
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newmann 12/11/2018 1:20pm
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You guys are acting as if Cudby really went off the rails or something. He just stated that it was his original photo.

Some sandy vaginas around this joint.
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GIwasB4 12/11/2018 5:12pm
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Robgvx wrote:
If you place ten dollar bills on the pavement you shouldn’t get upset if other people pick them up.
Best post in the whole thread.
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GIwasB4 12/11/2018 5:18pm
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newmann wrote:
You guys are acting as if Cudby really went off the rails or something. He just stated that it was his original photo. Some sandy vaginas...
You guys are acting as if Cudby really went off the rails or something. He just stated that it was his original photo.

Some sandy vaginas around this joint.
And after all that it's not even his pic? Strobegate ring a bell?
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Sully 12/11/2018 5:41pm
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newmann wrote:
You guys are acting as if Cudby really went off the rails or something. He just stated that it was his original photo. Some sandy vaginas...
You guys are acting as if Cudby really went off the rails or something. He just stated that it was his original photo.

Some sandy vaginas around this joint.
GIwasB4 wrote:
And after all that it's not even his pic? Strobegate ring a bell?
Whether Cudby, or GuyB shot the original photo doesn't matter, the image is copyrighted as soon as it's created, so someone owns the rights to it. The OP* offered to sell a reproduction of an image he doesn't own the rights to. Copyright issues and TFS not liking where TOE put strobes isn't even close to the same thing.

*I'm not faulting Brian; he said he wasn't aware he couldn't do that, and I believe him.
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kaptkaos 1/16/2019 9:10pm
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toroP wrote:
The drawing would not exist without the original art, the photo. It’s wrong to copy someone else’s art then try to make money from it without...
The drawing would not exist without the original art, the photo. It’s wrong to copy someone else’s art then try to make money from it without permission. And I bet Simon/GuyB would have been cool with it, as long as credits given.
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The photo wouldnt exist without Dungey shifting mid air at the MEC. Did they pay Dungey for rights? It also wouldnt exist wihout Feld and Monster...
The photo wouldnt exist without Dungey shifting mid air at the MEC. Did they pay Dungey for rights? It also wouldnt exist wihout Feld and Monster having the MEC to begin with. Did they pay either of them for the rights? Also, the same shot was aired on FOX Sports so he didnt need the picture to create that drawing.
I know its not common knowledge but photographic rights are a real thing. GuyB and Simon Cudby are being paid to photograph the event and approved by the promoter to do so. All the participants are subject to the rules of the promoter, so yeah, Ryan Dungey doesnt have any rights to that image. The rights belong to the photographer, and anyone who he licenses usage of the photo (the folks who pay him).

Before the age of digital photography and internet, this was never questioned.

Should the photo be used as a model for a drawing? Sure, but with approval from the owner of the photo. 99.9% of the time its not an issue or its done on the down low and never even gets discovered, but sometimes it does. Photos are a product of the photographers work, just like software is a product of a developers work, its not free for the taking without some agreement.

I have seen Getty Images scan the web for websites that use unlicensed stock Getty images and send the owners invoices which they had to pay! These were stupid images on stupid small sites!

Its fairly obvious the artist had no malicious intent and proved it by offering to take it down. Its not Cudbys image after all.

Not everything that looks simple is. This is America and we can complicate anything, and the bottom line is money rules.

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kaptkaos 1/16/2019 9:16pm
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FGR01 wrote:
For the record, my posts on Vital are my original works of art. No one has permission to use them for any gain either monetary or...
For the record, my posts on Vital are my original works of art. No one has permission to use them for any gain either monetary or for fame or notoriety. By quoting my posts you have gained fame and notoriety and would be violating copyright law. Your response to my posts, although original, would not have existed without my original work of art. Therefore, you have benefited or profited from my original work of art.
For the record, your posts here on Vital or wholly the right of Vital and they can do whatever they want with them and you cannot do anything about it!

Same goes for Facebook IG or any other social or web platform.
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Brother painted this as a gift for me (actually going in my sons room). Thinking of an ispirational saying to go on the wall above it. Maybe something like "champions always find a way" or "never give up", or "dont be a wuss and pull off the track for something stupid" Haha.
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