Yamaha inverted motor for 2010?

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Guy at dealer mentioned something to me. Japanese bikes are testing them but no pictures allowed. Anyone heard anything about this or what it's all about?
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you lost me at "guy at dealer"
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They have been mentioning that the 2010 Yamaha is supposed to have some crazy radical foward engine design so maybe that is what "Guy at dealer" was talking about
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That Aprilla had a strange looking motor in it
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Inverted means opposite of what it is now or upside down. I'm assuming he meant a more forward angle such as the Husaberg.

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Yeah, he might of meant something along that line. What are the advantages of doing that?
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level wrote:
Yeah, he might of meant something along that line. What are the advantages of doing that?
spark plug is easier to get to..ha ha ha ..hows that level?
3/19/2009 9:50pm
level wrote:
Yeah, he might of meant something along that line. What are the advantages of doing that?
lowers the mass of the engine for lower COG maybe?
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level wrote:
Yeah, he might of meant something along that line. What are the advantages of doing that?
09450f wrote:
spark plug is easier to get to..ha ha ha ..hows that level?
ha. That would be nice.
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Straighter intake tract is the big one. I belive that has a cassette type transmission also, so the whole shebang can be slid out in one shot.
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What will they think of next? Putting the front wheel in back? That would be rad.
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They still need to make the swingarm pivot they same as the countershaft like the beemer then it would be the bomb.
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todder wrote:
Inverted means opposite of what it is now or upside down. I'm assuming he meant a more forward angle such as the Husaberg. [img]http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:oWxrMIJqeqoznM:http://www.123motocross.com/images/husaberg/2009_husaberg_engine_2.jpg[/img]
Inverted means opposite of what it is now or upside down. I'm assuming he meant a more forward angle such as the Husaberg.
Read some rave reviews about that... Bike is designed around the flywheel which helps with the handling. So if they do this expect the 250f and 450f's to corner a much better.
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v1rus99 wrote:
Read some rave reviews about that... Bike is designed around the flywheel which helps with the handling. So if they do this expect the 250f and...
Read some rave reviews about that... Bike is designed around the flywheel which helps with the handling. So if they do this expect the 250f and 450f's to corner a much better.
Two things:

1) Yamaha broke new ground by being the first manufacturer with the 400F and 250F. Even though Husaberg beat them to the punch with this design it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they were the first Japanese OEM to do this.

2) I rode a Husaberg in practice at REM two weeks ago and the thing cornered like it was on rails.
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The Husaberg brand is basically the testing ground for KTM's development. I think KTM will beat Yamaha to the punch since the Husaberg motor is theirs. I look forward to getting my 2010 KTM.
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I thought this idea has been around for years but nobody could make it work.

That's cool that we are seeing new innovations.
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3/20/2009 5:27am Edited Date/Time 3/20/2009 5:58am


...and it is a 350cc!
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Yeah, he might of meant something along that line. What are the advantages of doing that?
cheaper price.
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Moves the crankshaft/flywheel closer to the center of gravity.
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Cant wait to see what they do..they are due for a kick ass new bike, and I think they will deliver. They just came out with a kick ass new street bike (R1). Im sure the new YZ is going to kick ass, what ever it is
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Guy at dealer mentioned something to me. Japanese bikes are testing them but no pictures allowed. Anyone heard anything about this or what it's all about?
Inverted motor, must be for those Freestyle MX guys. When their upside down.
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09450f wrote:
That Aprilla had a strange looking motor in it
The aprilia is twin cylinder
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Swap reported that when he was in Japan, it was mentioned that the '10 YZ450F would have the forward-tilted motor.

BTW...what the hell do we call our bikes next year?

I got a '10 Yamazuki

I got an '010 Yamazuki

I goteth thine a Yamazuki of the year thousand and ten

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im guessing '010, lol
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Will it crank when you crash it or lay it on the ground to help another rider up? I'd think someone would want to fix that problem before totally redesigning an engine. I think crazy though.
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Swap reported that when he was in Japan, it was mentioned that the '10 YZ450F would have the forward-tilted motor. BTW...what the hell do we call...
Swap reported that when he was in Japan, it was mentioned that the '10 YZ450F would have the forward-tilted motor.

BTW...what the hell do we call our bikes next year?

I got a '10 Yamazuki

I got an '010 Yamazuki

I goteth thine a Yamazuki of the year thousand and ten

Forward-tilted and inverted are different. I'm guessing from Swap's report that Yamaha didn't show off their new YZ, leads me to believe it must be radically different. We'll see soon, I guess.
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3/20/2009 7:16am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:00pm
The Boys in Blue do build some crazy S### sometimes. (See Photo) I'm hoping for something radical. Can't picture them just tossing EFI on the YZ450F and calling it new.

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The Boys in Blue do build some crazy S### sometimes. (See Photo) I'm hoping for something radical. Can't picture them just tossing EFI on the YZ450F...
The Boys in Blue do build some crazy S### sometimes. (See Photo) I'm hoping for something radical. Can't picture them just tossing EFI on the YZ450F and calling it new.

Wow....photoshop at it's best. I can't believe an ATV magazine would run something like that on their cover.
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Look interesting. I was thinking it was going to look like a SL70.

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Swap reported that when he was in Japan, it was mentioned that the '10 YZ450F would have the forward-tilted motor. BTW...what the hell do we call...
Swap reported that when he was in Japan, it was mentioned that the '10 YZ450F would have the forward-tilted motor.

BTW...what the hell do we call our bikes next year?

I got a '10 Yamazuki

I got an '010 Yamazuki

I goteth thine a Yamazuki of the year thousand and ten

Maybe a " 2K10 " or an " oh-1-oh "

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