Cross training on snowmobiles?

MR. X wrote:

Snowmobiling is a great activity . If you want a work out though ,go into some deep powder with an inch and a quarter track...

Snowmobiling is a great activity . If you want a work out though ,go into some deep powder with an inch and a quarter track . best workout known to man is digging out a stuck sled !!

-MAVERICK- wrote:

LOL 1-1/4" track + Deep snow = Good luck with that. Definitively a work out if you dont just say fuck it, I'm done with this...

LOL 1-1/4" track + Deep snow = Good luck with that.

Definitively a work out if you dont just say fuck it, I'm done with this POS and hitch a ride back home.

On a serious note, it's best to always have a compact shovel and tow straps if you're going to ride deep powder. Makes it so much easier when you do get stuck.

aspiess328 wrote:

Similar to what ron727 said, i originally started riding bikes to cross-train for snocross racing. I have since retired from racing and primarily do backcountry riding...

Similar to what ron727 said, i originally started riding bikes to cross-train for snocross racing. I have since retired from racing and primarily do backcountry riding, but still ride bikes in the summer as often as possible. A lot of similarities between sleds and bikes but at the same time, they’re different in their own ways.

I ride bikes to stay in shape for sleds and i ride sleds to stay in shape for bikes. That’s pretty much what it comes down to!

MR. X wrote:

Snowmobiling is a great activity . If you want a work out though ,go into some deep powder with an inch and a quarter track...

Snowmobiling is a great activity . If you want a work out though ,go into some deep powder with an inch and a quarter track . best workout known to man is digging out a stuck sled !!

-MAVERICK- wrote:

LOL 1-1/4" track + Deep snow = Good luck with that. Definitively a work out if you dont just say fuck it, I'm done with this...

LOL 1-1/4" track + Deep snow = Good luck with that.

Definitively a work out if you dont just say fuck it, I'm done with this POS and hitch a ride back home.

On a serious note, it's best to always have a compact shovel and tow straps if you're going to ride deep powder. Makes it so much easier when you do get stuck.

Tuna wrote:

Sleds are easy to get unstuck if you know what you are doing. A lot of the time it’s easiest to just roll it over. You...

Sleds are easy to get unstuck if you know what you are doing. A lot of the time it’s easiest to just roll it over.
You would be surprised what a 136/137inch 1 1/4 track will make it through if you know how to ride deep stuff.

Katoomey wrote:

what are we talking about here? muscle memory? sleds are different. not the same movements, for sure. you would never intentionally ride snowmobiles as a training...

what are we talking about here? muscle memory? sleds are different. not the same movements, for sure. you would never intentionally ride snowmobiles as a training device for dirtbikes. thats a ridiculous notion.

or are we talking about fitness? cause riding sleds isn't high in cardio. it's more like labor, or weight training. especially if you ride in deep snow.

this whole thread is stupid. Either you can ride dirtbikes in the winter or you cant. if you wanna call riding sleds "cross training", fine, but what choice do you have if there's snow on the ground. It's a moot question....

MR. X wrote:

Snowmobiling is a great activity . If you want a work out though ,go into some deep powder with an inch and a quarter track...

Snowmobiling is a great activity . If you want a work out though ,go into some deep powder with an inch and a quarter track . best workout known to man is digging out a stuck sled !!

MR. X wrote:

Snowmobiling is a great activity . If you want a work out though ,go into some deep powder with an inch and a quarter track...

Snowmobiling is a great activity . If you want a work out though ,go into some deep powder with an inch and a quarter track . best workout known to man is digging out a stuck sled !!

deluxeman wrote:

Yes it is!!!!

You be in your tee shirt and underwear sweating your fool ass off if you get it really stuck.

Meister wrote:

Katoomey, I appreciate your opinion, but dont talk shit on a thread cuz your a big wig at Arctic Cat. Clearly there is some common ground...

Katoomey, I appreciate your opinion, but dont talk shit on a thread cuz your a big wig at Arctic Cat. Clearly there is some common ground with regards to both disciplines. I asked if anyone rode both, and sure enough seems like there's a few here that do.

Thanks tuna for the suggestions. I'll check them out. There's a pro s 800 at a local dealer that kinda sparked my interest. Figure a pro x might be a little more suited toward my Moto blood tho.

Meister wrote:

Katoomey, I appreciate your opinion, but dont talk shit on a thread cuz your a big wig at Arctic Cat. Clearly there is some common ground...

Katoomey, I appreciate your opinion, but dont talk shit on a thread cuz your a big wig at Arctic Cat. Clearly there is some common ground with regards to both disciplines. I asked if anyone rode both, and sure enough seems like there's a few here that do.

Thanks tuna for the suggestions. I'll check them out. There's a pro s 800 at a local dealer that kinda sparked my interest. Figure a pro x might be a little more suited toward my Moto blood tho.

Meister wrote:

Katoomey, I appreciate your opinion, but dont talk shit on a thread cuz your a big wig at Arctic Cat. Clearly there is some common ground...

Katoomey, I appreciate your opinion, but dont talk shit on a thread cuz your a big wig at Arctic Cat. Clearly there is some common ground with regards to both disciplines. I asked if anyone rode both, and sure enough seems like there's a few here that do.

Thanks tuna for the suggestions. I'll check them out. There's a pro s 800 at a local dealer that kinda sparked my interest. Figure a pro x might be a little more suited toward my Moto blood tho.

MR. X wrote:

An older race sled might be what you want .or a race chassis with a trail motor . The 04 Polaris race chassis is still my...

An older race sled might be what you want .or a race chassis with a trail motor . The 04 Polaris race chassis is still my favorite sled ever.

motomike137 wrote:

Mr X with all due respect if you ride a current chassis you won't be touting that dinosaur. My 15 xrs renegade will basically eat up...

Mr X with all due respect if you ride a current chassis you won't be touting that dinosaur. My 15 xrs renegade will basically eat up anything you have the balls to hit and the new gen ski doo ergos take it to the next level. For all you old mx farts like myself if you haven't ridden a modern sled you owe it to yourself.

Katoomey wrote:

Big wig at Arctic Cat? thats funny... the semantics are killing me. some of you are so dumb... some of you act like i said this...

Big wig at Arctic Cat? thats funny...

the semantics are killing me. some of you are so dumb...

some of you act like i said this - "if you ride a sled you cant be good on a bike". seriously, look at some of the responses...just crazy levels of dumb...

when what I really said was this - "just because you can ride a sled, doesn't mean you can ride a bike' which I stand behind. and if thats the case, how could one really relate to the other? it's like anything else in life, people with high levels of coordination are usually good at many things, this is true, but that doesn't mean because I'm good at baseball and basketball that they have any connection. Those same people are also people that are good at cooking, or singing, or dancing and performing. Does that mean they can play violin, or piano as cross training for playing guitar? of course not. it's a ridiculous notion.

my point was, one doesn't make you better at the other, more so, than any other motor skill-centric activity. everyone of the guys listed (above posts) would be just as good at dirtbikes had they never ridden a sled or visa-versa. As far as cross training goes, doing anything that is as strenuous as riding a sled would provide just as much benefit to a motocross rider.

Muscle memory is absolutely specific. Just because a sled has handlebars doesn't make it anything like a dirtbike as far as your muscle memory is concerned. just as an example, my back is always toast after sledding, but never after riding dirtbike, and I do a few 2/3hr races a few times a year. That tells me they are quite different beasts, physiologically speaking.

-MAVERICK- wrote:

LOL 1-1/4" track + Deep snow = Good luck with that. Definitively a work out if you dont just say fuck it, I'm done with this...

LOL 1-1/4" track + Deep snow = Good luck with that.

Definitively a work out if you dont just say fuck it, I'm done with this POS and hitch a ride back home.

On a serious note, it's best to always have a compact shovel and tow straps if you're going to ride deep powder. Makes it so much easier when you do get stuck.

Tuna wrote:

Sleds are easy to get unstuck if you know what you are doing. A lot of the time it’s easiest to just roll it over. You...

Sleds are easy to get unstuck if you know what you are doing. A lot of the time it’s easiest to just roll it over.
You would be surprised what a 136/137inch 1 1/4 track will make it through if you know how to ride deep stuff.

MR. X wrote:

Just stop already ,it's clear you've never been stuck in bottomless snow.

Meister wrote:

Katoomey, I appreciate your opinion, but dont talk shit on a thread cuz your a big wig at Arctic Cat. Clearly there is some common ground...

Katoomey, I appreciate your opinion, but dont talk shit on a thread cuz your a big wig at Arctic Cat. Clearly there is some common ground with regards to both disciplines. I asked if anyone rode both, and sure enough seems like there's a few here that do.

Thanks tuna for the suggestions. I'll check them out. There's a pro s 800 at a local dealer that kinda sparked my interest. Figure a pro x might be a little more suited toward my Moto blood tho.

Katoomey wrote:

Big wig at Arctic Cat? thats funny... the semantics are killing me. some of you are so dumb... some of you act like i said this...

Big wig at Arctic Cat? thats funny...

the semantics are killing me. some of you are so dumb...

some of you act like i said this - "if you ride a sled you cant be good on a bike". seriously, look at some of the responses...just crazy levels of dumb...

when what I really said was this - "just because you can ride a sled, doesn't mean you can ride a bike' which I stand behind. and if thats the case, how could one really relate to the other? it's like anything else in life, people with high levels of coordination are usually good at many things, this is true, but that doesn't mean because I'm good at baseball and basketball that they have any connection. Those same people are also people that are good at cooking, or singing, or dancing and performing. Does that mean they can play violin, or piano as cross training for playing guitar? of course not. it's a ridiculous notion.

my point was, one doesn't make you better at the other, more so, than any other motor skill-centric activity. everyone of the guys listed (above posts) would be just as good at dirtbikes had they never ridden a sled or visa-versa. As far as cross training goes, doing anything that is as strenuous as riding a sled would provide just as much benefit to a motocross rider.

Muscle memory is absolutely specific. Just because a sled has handlebars doesn't make it anything like a dirtbike as far as your muscle memory is concerned. just as an example, my back is always toast after sledding, but never after riding dirtbike, and I do a few 2/3hr races a few times a year. That tells me they are quite different beasts, physiologically speaking.

Tuna wrote:

The Po 600’s eat pistons quick, ringland issues. I would not own one out of warranty. We get big snow out my way but not huge...

The Po 600’s eat pistons quick, ringland issues. I would not own one out of warranty. We get big snow out my way but not huge elevation like out west. A 600 is plenty unless you are at 5000 feet or climbing chutes.

Tuna wrote:

The Po 600’s eat pistons quick, ringland issues. I would not own one out of warranty. We get big snow out my way but not huge...

The Po 600’s eat pistons quick, ringland issues. I would not own one out of warranty. We get big snow out my way but not huge elevation like out west. A 600 is plenty unless you are at 5000 feet or climbing chutes.

MR. X wrote:

That's interesting about the polaris eating pistons in the mountains , those 600s are bullet proof on the flats lands . The ski doos are notorious...

That's interesting about the polaris eating pistons in the mountains , those 600s are bullet proof on the flats lands . The ski doos are notorious for destroying pistons on the flats .

Meister wrote:

I completely understand they are "different". I'm not looking for muscle memory. 22 years on a bike, it's just there. Actually, I'm not looking for any...

I completely understand they are "different". I'm not looking for muscle memory. 22 years on a bike, it's just there. Actually, I'm not looking for any specific answer other than who rides both to be able to ride all year if you live where it snows. I'm getting good feedback though.

Tuna, in your opinion, a 600 would be plenty even though I'm over 220lbs?

Meister wrote:

I completely understand they are "different". I'm not looking for muscle memory. 22 years on a bike, it's just there. Actually, I'm not looking for any...

I completely understand they are "different". I'm not looking for muscle memory. 22 years on a bike, it's just there. Actually, I'm not looking for any specific answer other than who rides both to be able to ride all year if you live where it snows. I'm getting good feedback though.

Tuna, in your opinion, a 600 would be plenty even though I'm over 220lbs?

Meister wrote:

I completely understand they are "different". I'm not looking for muscle memory. 22 years on a bike, it's just there. Actually, I'm not looking for any...

I completely understand they are "different". I'm not looking for muscle memory. 22 years on a bike, it's just there. Actually, I'm not looking for any specific answer other than who rides both to be able to ride all year if you live where it snows. I'm getting good feedback though.

Tuna, in your opinion, a 600 would be plenty even though I'm over 220lbs?

Bogger wrote:

I have been riding for 40 years on both sleds and bikes. Sno x , cross country , ice LeMans, motocross. Both sports are great but...

I have been riding for 40 years on both sleds and bikes. Sno x , cross country , ice LeMans, motocross. Both sports are great but I like sleds better if you can get decent snow. A modern 600 has plenty of power for lower elevation riding. An 800 is fun but it is hard to use all that power. Any of the big three have decent suspension and ergos for pounding bumps. Snow bikes are probably best left for mountain riding as that is where they excel. They are not legal for trail riding in most flatland areas as far as I know so that limits where you can ride.