PED Allegations

144rider wrote:

I'm assuming you've never made a silly mistake in your lifetime? Unlikely!! "People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". That'd make you a hypercrite wouldn't it...

I'm assuming you've never made a silly mistake in your lifetime? Unlikely!!

"People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". That'd make you a hypercrite wouldn't it?

Ask yourself. What does Jeff have to gain by all this? I'd suggest. Nothing more than a safer environment for the kids he works with and future of the sport. It should be obvious, this isn't helping him personally in anyway. Quite the opposite by the looks of it.

Jmicmoto13 wrote:

You’re getting stuck on the minutia portion of his argument. Look at the macro version of how Jeff has conducted himself over the past few years...

You’re getting stuck on the minutia portion of his argument. Look at the macro version of how Jeff has conducted himself over the past few years. Less than adult like or professional.

144rider wrote:

Now that is Ironic!! Hmmm, what have you don'e to help the future of the sport? Trained many kids lately to help them acheive their goals...

Now that is Ironic!!

Hmmm, what have you don'e to help the future of the sport? Trained many kids lately to help them acheive their goals in life?.

Seems to me, Jeff is giving back to the sport he has participated in and loved his entire life..

You can't fix a problem unless you acknowledge it. If some have an unfair advantage over others, that's a huge problem for the sport.

MxKing809 wrote:

And let’s face it gents..... The Alessi’s are so blackballed in this industry, they are the only ones who have nothing to loose by speaking up...

And let’s face it gents.....

The Alessi’s are so blackballed in this industry, they are the only ones who have nothing to loose by speaking up. It’s sad to say, but they’re our only hope!

-MAVERICK- wrote:

I'll just say better have deep pockets or maybe start another GoFundMe. Lawyer's are expensive and lawsuits aren't cheap. Maybe ask Mike what his start technic...

I'll just say better have deep pockets or maybe start another GoFundMe. Lawyer's are expensive and lawsuits aren't cheap.

Maybe ask Mike what his start technic is so you can line up for some of that holeshot money come SX 2018. Just a thought, No?

144rider wrote:

Now that is Ironic!! Hmmm, what have you don'e to help the future of the sport? Trained many kids lately to help them acheive their goals...

Now that is Ironic!!

Hmmm, what have you don'e to help the future of the sport? Trained many kids lately to help them acheive their goals in life?.

Seems to me, Jeff is giving back to the sport he has participated in and loved his entire life..

You can't fix a problem unless you acknowledge it. If some have an unfair advantage over others, that's a huge problem for the sport.

ML512 wrote:

Anddddddd...we reached 20.

kkawboy14 wrote:

Shake and Bake and I helped!

So what PEDS are you using MIchael?

Also I voted for you 3 times in the Grammys deal!

144rider wrote:

Now that is Ironic!! Hmmm, what have you don'e to help the future of the sport? Trained many kids lately to help them acheive their goals...

Now that is Ironic!!

Hmmm, what have you don'e to help the future of the sport? Trained many kids lately to help them acheive their goals in life?.

Seems to me, Jeff is giving back to the sport he has participated in and loved his entire life..

You can't fix a problem unless you acknowledge it. If some have an unfair advantage over others, that's a huge problem for the sport.

Jmicmoto13 wrote:

I, personally, spend my hard earned dollars towards products from companies who support the sport. So, what has Jeff done to help the future of the...

I, personally, spend my hard earned dollars towards products from companies who support the sport. So, what has Jeff done to help the future of the sport after 21 pages of this jargon? And how do you know Jeff has helped any kids achieve their goals? I haven’t heard any testimonials or parents vouching for his skills. I’ll apologize and retract my comment if he’s some unspoken, MX Jedi trainer I wasn’t aware of.

defeatist45 wrote:

TL;DR someone help me?

Jmicmoto13 wrote:

You’re getting stuck on the minutia portion of his argument. Look at the macro version of how Jeff has conducted himself over the past few years...

You’re getting stuck on the minutia portion of his argument. Look at the macro version of how Jeff has conducted himself over the past few years. Less than adult like or professional.

144rider wrote:

Now that is Ironic!! Hmmm, what have you don'e to help the future of the sport? Trained many kids lately to help them acheive their goals...

Now that is Ironic!!

Hmmm, what have you don'e to help the future of the sport? Trained many kids lately to help them acheive their goals in life?.

Seems to me, Jeff is giving back to the sport he has participated in and loved his entire life..

You can't fix a problem unless you acknowledge it. If some have an unfair advantage over others, that's a huge problem for the sport.

MxKing809 wrote:

Easy there tiger....

Jeff is “giving back” to the sport he loves the same I’m giving back to my employer M-F....

144rider wrote:

Now that is Ironic!! Hmmm, what have you don'e to help the future of the sport? Trained many kids lately to help them acheive their goals...

Now that is Ironic!!

Hmmm, what have you don'e to help the future of the sport? Trained many kids lately to help them acheive their goals in life?.

Seems to me, Jeff is giving back to the sport he has participated in and loved his entire life..

You can't fix a problem unless you acknowledge it. If some have an unfair advantage over others, that's a huge problem for the sport.

MxKing809 wrote:

Easy there tiger....

Jeff is “giving back” to the sport he loves the same I’m giving back to my employer M-F....

-MAVERICK- wrote:

I was going to say giving back is charity work, teaching and getting paid for it is employment. He isn't giving anything back that I know...

I was going to say giving back is charity work, teaching and getting paid for it is employment.

He isn't giving anything back that I know of.

144rider wrote:

Now that is Ironic!! Hmmm, what have you don'e to help the future of the sport? Trained many kids lately to help them acheive their goals...

Now that is Ironic!!

Hmmm, what have you don'e to help the future of the sport? Trained many kids lately to help them acheive their goals in life?.

Seems to me, Jeff is giving back to the sport he has participated in and loved his entire life..

You can't fix a problem unless you acknowledge it. If some have an unfair advantage over others, that's a huge problem for the sport.

Jmicmoto13 wrote:

I, personally, spend my hard earned dollars towards products from companies who support the sport. So, what has Jeff done to help the future of the...

I, personally, spend my hard earned dollars towards products from companies who support the sport. So, what has Jeff done to help the future of the sport after 21 pages of this jargon? And how do you know Jeff has helped any kids achieve their goals? I haven’t heard any testimonials or parents vouching for his skills. I’ll apologize and retract my comment if he’s some unspoken, MX Jedi trainer I wasn’t aware of.

144rider wrote:

I really shouldn't have to point it out to someone who obviously considers themselves to be as smart as you. But anyway. He is helping by...

I really shouldn't have to point it out to someone who obviously considers themselves to be as smart as you. But anyway. He is helping by starting the conversation.

No need to thank me. you're welcome.

Jmicmoto13 wrote:

I, personally, spend my hard earned dollars towards products from companies who support the sport. So, what has Jeff done to help the future of the...

I, personally, spend my hard earned dollars towards products from companies who support the sport. So, what has Jeff done to help the future of the sport after 21 pages of this jargon? And how do you know Jeff has helped any kids achieve their goals? I haven’t heard any testimonials or parents vouching for his skills. I’ll apologize and retract my comment if he’s some unspoken, MX Jedi trainer I wasn’t aware of.

144rider wrote:

I really shouldn't have to point it out to someone who obviously considers themselves to be as smart as you. But anyway. He is helping by...

I really shouldn't have to point it out to someone who obviously considers themselves to be as smart as you. But anyway. He is helping by starting the conversation.

No need to thank me. you're welcome.

Jmicmoto13 wrote:

Alrighty then. I don’t claim to be smart but I do think I have common sense and intuition. Jeff’s track record and current behavior don’t put...

Alrighty then. I don’t claim to be smart but I do think I have common sense and intuition. Jeff’s track record and current behavior don’t put him in the most trustworthy position. That is all.

144rider wrote:

OK. Same could be said about Aldon Baker though.

-MAVERICK- wrote:

I'll just say better have deep pockets or maybe start another GoFundMe. Lawyer's are expensive and lawsuits aren't cheap. Maybe ask Mike what his start technic...

I'll just say better have deep pockets or maybe start another GoFundMe. Lawyer's are expensive and lawsuits aren't cheap.

Maybe ask Mike what his start technic is so you can line up for some of that holeshot money come SX 2018. Just a thought, No?

144rider wrote:

In other words. Thank you Jeff for putting your head on the chopping block to help and do the right thing for the sport we all...

In other words. Thank you Jeff for putting your head on the chopping block to help and do the right thing for the sport we all love.

144rider wrote:

OK. Same could be said about Aldon Baker though.

Jmicmoto13 wrote:

Examples please of Aldon making questionable, public decisions that affect others. Your argument is fading like a privateer in a 20 minute main.

90smoto wrote:

Dude no lie your rambling non-sense makes you look like your the one on drugs. For gods sake someone take Jeff and lock him in a...

Dude no lie your rambling non-sense makes you look like your the one on drugs. For gods sake someone take Jeff and lock him in a room somewhere before he ruins every shred of credibility he or his brother mike have left. Poor mike he is a victim of this shit. He seems like a good dude for the most part but his brother and his dad are the male version of that crazy bitch in the movie "gone girl"

DC wrote:

Gang, I went back and read this whole thread again too, and I want to make a couple of points here... To go back and suggest...

Gang, I went back and read this whole thread again too, and I want to make a couple of points here...

To go back and suggest that Ricky Carmichael won because he started working with Aldon is missing a few points. RC was a dominant amateur for 10 years before and the best 125cc rider EVER before Johnny O'Mara introduced him to Aldon Baker. (And then James Stewart became an even faster 125 rider.) Then he got serious about training. Like Tom Brady, he watched everything he put in his body, every meal, every beverage... He once told me he couldn't wait to retire because "I've been on a diet for a decade!"

In 2007, when he was on a partial schedule and only riding half the races, he managed to win two SX main events against Stewart and Reed and Windham, and all six outdoor nationals he entered, and then the Motocross of Nations.

In 2011, well off his diet, he went and dominated Loretta Lynn's in the Vet class.

And even now, ten years after he retired, he can hop on a bike and flat-out fly. If he went back into training, I don't doubt he could battle for podiums and maybe even wins again.

My point is this: Carmichael wasn't just an animal with training, he was a remarkably talented athlete with an incredible ability to ride a motorcycle. Discrediting him here a dozen years after he quit is ridiculous. The man could ride a motorcycle, way back when as a kid, and right now still. If you don't believe that, go back and watch all those dominant 125cc wins from '97 to '99 when he was heavy. He could beat anyone but McGrath and he knew he had to get in better shape to beat Jeremy, which he finally did in 2000-2001. Then he worked his ass off for six more years and kept winning. His career was a masterpiece, not a science experiment.

Respect.

DC
Racer X

Jmicmoto13 wrote:

Well said DC.

144rider wrote:

Pfffft! Look where he came from. "Lay with dogs, you'll catch their fleas". He's the most questionable person in the sport right now, and who can...

Pfffft! Look where he came from. "Lay with dogs, you'll catch their fleas". He's the most questionable person in the sport right now, and who can blame anyone for asking that question after considering his background?

Facts amount to nothing, Perception is everything! "Such is life".

90smoto wrote:

Jeff Alessi is like a mixture of tonya Harding and Lamar Odom...bat shit crazy and on drugs

144rider wrote:

Pfffft! Look where he came from. "Lay with dogs, you'll catch their fleas". He's the most questionable person in the sport right now, and who can...

Pfffft! Look where he came from. "Lay with dogs, you'll catch their fleas". He's the most questionable person in the sport right now, and who can blame anyone for asking that question after considering his background?

Facts amount to nothing, Perception is everything! "Such is life".

144rider wrote:

Pfffft! Look where he came from. "Lay with dogs, you'll catch their fleas". He's the most questionable person in the sport right now, and who can...

Pfffft! Look where he came from. "Lay with dogs, you'll catch their fleas". He's the most questionable person in the sport right now, and who can blame anyone for asking that question after considering his background?

Facts amount to nothing, Perception is everything! "Such is life".

Jmicmoto13 wrote:

I’ve seen that quote a few times over the past few pages but cease to make the connection. So RV and RD have fleas now as...

I’ve seen that quote a few times over the past few pages but cease to make the connection. So RV and RD have fleas now as well?

MxKing809 wrote:

Easy there tiger....

Jeff is “giving back” to the sport he loves the same I’m giving back to my employer M-F....

-MAVERICK- wrote:

I was going to say giving back is charity work, teaching and getting paid for it is employment. He isn't giving anything back that I know...

I was going to say giving back is charity work, teaching and getting paid for it is employment.

He isn't giving anything back that I know of.

144rider wrote:

Like Big Bird. Jeff could use his time and skills to be a world class RC car racer. he chooses to help the future of our...

Like Big Bird. Jeff could use his time and skills to be a world class RC car racer. he chooses to help the future of our sport instead. He has won a championship in that sport. He hasn't turned his back on the sport like others.
I know which would yield more $$.

My point is. Play the ball, not the man!!

DC wrote:

Gang, I went back and read this whole thread again too, and I want to make a couple of points here... To go back and suggest...

Gang, I went back and read this whole thread again too, and I want to make a couple of points here...

To go back and suggest that Ricky Carmichael won because he started working with Aldon is missing a few points. RC was a dominant amateur for 10 years before and the best 125cc rider EVER before Johnny O'Mara introduced him to Aldon Baker. (And then James Stewart became an even faster 125 rider.) Then he got serious about training. Like Tom Brady, he watched everything he put in his body, every meal, every beverage... He once told me he couldn't wait to retire because "I've been on a diet for a decade!"

In 2007, when he was on a partial schedule and only riding half the races, he managed to win two SX main events against Stewart and Reed and Windham, and all six outdoor nationals he entered, and then the Motocross of Nations.

In 2011, well off his diet, he went and dominated Loretta Lynn's in the Vet class.

And even now, ten years after he retired, he can hop on a bike and flat-out fly. If he went back into training, I don't doubt he could battle for podiums and maybe even wins again.

My point is this: Carmichael wasn't just an animal with training, he was a remarkably talented athlete with an incredible ability to ride a motorcycle. Discrediting him here a dozen years after he quit is ridiculous. The man could ride a motorcycle, way back when as a kid, and right now still. If you don't believe that, go back and watch all those dominant 125cc wins from '97 to '99 when he was heavy. He could beat anyone but McGrath and he knew he had to get in better shape to beat Jeremy, which he finally did in 2000-2001. Then he worked his ass off for six more years and kept winning. His career was a masterpiece, not a science experiment.

Respect.

DC
Racer X

Jmicmoto13 wrote:

Well said DC.

Mr. Ted wrote:

word.