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I’m hype for the new game. By the look of them sponsoring all of theses MX and GNCC events and with this national track they posted, I’m pretty excited by what they said. The girl in the interview talked pretty good things too. The only thing I’m worried about is physics.

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if the game resembles a physics the likes of alive & supercross encore im not buying this shit wht so ever lol , hopefully its a mixture of reflex & the mx games before reflex , just my personal preference
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Give me encore with better national tracks and I'm set.
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Do we have just the month of January as a release date? No certain date? We are close to January now. Milestone launched their preview perfectly. Lots of content to be critical on. Lots of gameplay content. An EXACT release date to look forward to that is advertised right on their home page. There isn't even anything advertised on MX vs ATV's home page. We only know this because it was mentioned in one damn interview. Target says October 24th (no year given). Wal-Mart says November 13th. Amazon says December 31st, 2018. Which means none of these places even have a clue. I don't know what these guys are thinking, but this isn't a very thought out launch for them wanting to get their shit back together.

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Maverick has a source that is saying January. Gamestop says 3/31/18. Everyone else is definitely all over the place. I'm hoping Maverick is right...
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Do we have just the month of January as a release date? No certain date? We are close to January now. Milestone launched their preview perfectly...
Do we have just the month of January as a release date? No certain date? We are close to January now. Milestone launched their preview perfectly. Lots of content to be critical on. Lots of gameplay content. An EXACT release date to look forward to that is advertised right on their home page. There isn't even anything advertised on MX vs ATV's home page. We only know this because it was mentioned in one damn interview. Target says October 24th (no year given). Wal-Mart says November 13th. Amazon says December 31st, 2018. Which means none of these places even have a clue. I don't know what these guys are thinking, but this isn't a very thought out launch for them wanting to get their shit back together.
I don't know about the October and November dates you saw but the December 31st 2018 date is not uncommon to see and for retailers to post that date. It's just a place holder date meaning they know the game will be coming out in said year but don't know the exact release date because it hasn't been announced.

As for MX vs. ATV All Out it is coming out in January 2018. Someone asked that question on Instagram and I replied January 2018 and they liked my comment. Also, Stephane Roncada who works for the company said it himself that it will be on sale in January of 2018. Not sure of the date but considering games are usually released on Tuesday's or Friday's I'd say it will come out on any of the following dates in January: 9th, 12th, 16th or 19th.

If it's pushed back for any reason it will still come out in Q1 of 2018 meaning anywhere from January to the end of March.

You can read the interview with Ron-Ron HERE
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Maverick has a source that is saying January. Gamestop says 3/31/18. Everyone else is definitely all over the place. I'm hoping Maverick is right...
No personal source, just facts straight from the source. Like I mentioned in the post above post about the dates, Gamestop put that date as a place holder. 3/31/18 is the end of March and the game is being release during Q1 of 2018 which ends on March 31st 2018.
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I agree with Maverick on Q1. Actually, if I recall correctly, in last weekend's interview with the lady at MVA, Antonovich asked January and she said probably more like February.
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Seeing as Milestone's game comes out in February I think the MX vs. ATV Team will push to have their game out in January so that it's on store shelves before Milestone's game. Getting a head start on the competition is always a good idea and always steal away a bit of thunder. At least initially.

Only a few months away so we'll know soon enough.
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That's what I'm talking about. It's all guess work with these guys. They try to be secretive and mysterious thinking it's creating hype. Everyone's talking about Monster Energy Supercross the Game because they know what they're going to get and when they're going to get it. It's annoying as hell and quite frankly has me less interested in the game even coming out. I've already preordered the game from Milestone.
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If March means a better, more polished product, I'm all for that. Devs push games out too early WAY too often these days.
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dhp_mma94 wrote:
if the game resembles a physics the likes of alive & supercross encore im not buying this shit wht so ever lol , hopefully its a...
if the game resembles a physics the likes of alive & supercross encore im not buying this shit wht so ever lol , hopefully its a mixture of reflex & the mx games before reflex , just my personal preference
Apparently the physics are a mixture of Reflex and Alive.
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if the game resembles a physics the likes of alive & supercross encore im not buying this shit wht so ever lol , hopefully its a...
if the game resembles a physics the likes of alive & supercross encore im not buying this shit wht so ever lol , hopefully its a mixture of reflex & the mx games before reflex , just my personal preference
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Apparently the physics are a mixture of Reflex and Alive.
If this is true, that sounds very promising.
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if the game resembles a physics the likes of alive & supercross encore im not buying this shit wht so ever lol , hopefully its a...
if the game resembles a physics the likes of alive & supercross encore im not buying this shit wht so ever lol , hopefully its a mixture of reflex & the mx games before reflex , just my personal preference
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Apparently the physics are a mixture of Reflex and Alive.
flatout111 wrote:
If this is true, that sounds very promising.
I hope it is because personally I think those two games had the best physics in the series. Sure things weren't perfect in either of them but they both had good and bad in the physics department. If they managed to combine the best of the two for All Out it will definitely be a step in the right direction and a very good improvement to the series.

It remains to be seen and it'll be hard to tell from a simple gameplay video. You can't really judge physics from a video. That's something you can only really "feel" once you play the game yourself.

Not much has been shown on All Out but with the limited amount of stuff we do know I have to say that it looks pretty promising.
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pmshortt2 wrote:
I’m hype for the new game. By the look of them sponsoring all of theses MX and GNCC events and with this national track they posted...
I’m hype for the new game. By the look of them sponsoring all of theses MX and GNCC events and with this national track they posted, I’m pretty excited by what they said. The girl in the interview talked pretty good things too. The only thing I’m worried about is physics.

this looks promising. no more racing around a rock/snow quarry or through a jungle.
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Hoping we get something to talk about soon. Almost 2 months since announcement and all we have are some songs, a couple of quick impressions from Dell is at races and those initial screenshots. Downright weird marketing.
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I read before they release footage they are gonna gather info from the feedback they got when they took the game on the road...and tweek it...then release footage...
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mx vs atv all out of money for marketing
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I agree with Maverick on Q1. Actually, if I recall correctly, in last weekend's interview with the lady at MVA, Antonovich asked January and she said...
I agree with Maverick on Q1. Actually, if I recall correctly, in last weekend's interview with the lady at MVA, Antonovich asked January and she said probably more like February.
That is what she said.
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Lots of red flags from Rainbow for me. They would rather show this gameplay at special mx events for "feedback" and hold off videos until much later? Hmm. The difference between the graphics of the trailer and the gameplay snapshot images look very different in terms of detail and lighting. (Not the case in Milestones SX videos.) Finally, that track does nothing for impressing me...a couple of spare trees around with heavy fog surrounding the area similar to mcm2 days. Props for finally putting banners around the track? They just got done making the Lucas Oil national track previews and they couldn't at least integrate some of the style and professional looking atmosphere? Where are the crowds, etc. Track looks like typical super wide track to fit 3-4 atvs and I see over on the right side what looks like 3 pre made ruts in a corner...again telling me that "terrain deformation" has been reduced to a gimmick compaired to deformation in games like Reflex had. I know all of this is pretty harsh, but if they really have been working on this stuff for 2 years of whatever, they shouldn't be so secretive about showing it off. Sad

Haven't even mentioned how Im so sick of the gamepad stick flicking "preload" gyration I had to do playing mx vs atv sx when I had the 360 version. Yeah, that was a great noise to hear others talking and the CLICK CLICK slamming of gamepad sticks being flicked lol. Milestone is upfront about it's game at least has the visuals to match it's video trailer releases. Can't wait to buy the Monster sx game from Milesone and good riddance to all the whip complainers and preload glitchers.
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Lots of red flags from Rainbow for me. They would rather show this gameplay at special mx events for "feedback" and hold off videos until much...
Lots of red flags from Rainbow for me. They would rather show this gameplay at special mx events for "feedback" and hold off videos until much later? Hmm. The difference between the graphics of the trailer and the gameplay snapshot images look very different in terms of detail and lighting. (Not the case in Milestones SX videos.) Finally, that track does nothing for impressing me...a couple of spare trees around with heavy fog surrounding the area similar to mcm2 days. Props for finally putting banners around the track? They just got done making the Lucas Oil national track previews and they couldn't at least integrate some of the style and professional looking atmosphere? Where are the crowds, etc. Track looks like typical super wide track to fit 3-4 atvs and I see over on the right side what looks like 3 pre made ruts in a corner...again telling me that "terrain deformation" has been reduced to a gimmick compaired to deformation in games like Reflex had. I know all of this is pretty harsh, but if they really have been working on this stuff for 2 years of whatever, they shouldn't be so secretive about showing it off. Sad

Haven't even mentioned how Im so sick of the gamepad stick flicking "preload" gyration I had to do playing mx vs atv sx when I had the 360 version. Yeah, that was a great noise to hear others talking and the CLICK CLICK slamming of gamepad sticks being flicked lol. Milestone is upfront about it's game at least has the visuals to match it's video trailer releases. Can't wait to buy the Monster sx game from Milesone and good riddance to all the whip complainers and preload glitchers.
From what I've read the terrain deformation in MX vs ATV All Out will be like a Reflex 2.0. so that's not necessarily a bad thing if you ask me.

The graphics will be just as good as the Milestone SX game because they were both developed using the Unreal Engine 4. For Milestone the SX game will be their second game using that engine so they have more experience with it and have learned from it developing MXGP3. For the MX vs ATV team this will be their first one using that engine but it's safe to say that it's a lot better than their in-house engine they've used for the previous games. The Unreal Engine 4 is a powerful gaming engine but it's only as good as the team of developers using it. That makes a big difference.

I don't get all the bashing for All Out. Sure the past few game releases from that team haven't been perfect but we have very little info on All Out and no video's yet. To be honest it looks a lot more promising than the previous games. It might not be perfect but I personally think it'll be better than Reflex, Alive and Supercross/Encore and it looks like they're moving in the right direction.
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JohnnyMc wrote:
Lots of red flags from Rainbow for me. They would rather show this gameplay at special mx events for "feedback" and hold off videos until much...
Lots of red flags from Rainbow for me. They would rather show this gameplay at special mx events for "feedback" and hold off videos until much later? Hmm. The difference between the graphics of the trailer and the gameplay snapshot images look very different in terms of detail and lighting. (Not the case in Milestones SX videos.) Finally, that track does nothing for impressing me...a couple of spare trees around with heavy fog surrounding the area similar to mcm2 days. Props for finally putting banners around the track? They just got done making the Lucas Oil national track previews and they couldn't at least integrate some of the style and professional looking atmosphere? Where are the crowds, etc. Track looks like typical super wide track to fit 3-4 atvs and I see over on the right side what looks like 3 pre made ruts in a corner...again telling me that "terrain deformation" has been reduced to a gimmick compaired to deformation in games like Reflex had. I know all of this is pretty harsh, but if they really have been working on this stuff for 2 years of whatever, they shouldn't be so secretive about showing it off. Sad

Haven't even mentioned how Im so sick of the gamepad stick flicking "preload" gyration I had to do playing mx vs atv sx when I had the 360 version. Yeah, that was a great noise to hear others talking and the CLICK CLICK slamming of gamepad sticks being flicked lol. Milestone is upfront about it's game at least has the visuals to match it's video trailer releases. Can't wait to buy the Monster sx game from Milesone and good riddance to all the whip complainers and preload glitchers.
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From what I've read the terrain deformation in MX vs ATV All Out will be like a Reflex 2.0. so that's not necessarily a bad thing...
From what I've read the terrain deformation in MX vs ATV All Out will be like a Reflex 2.0. so that's not necessarily a bad thing if you ask me.

The graphics will be just as good as the Milestone SX game because they were both developed using the Unreal Engine 4. For Milestone the SX game will be their second game using that engine so they have more experience with it and have learned from it developing MXGP3. For the MX vs ATV team this will be their first one using that engine but it's safe to say that it's a lot better than their in-house engine they've used for the previous games. The Unreal Engine 4 is a powerful gaming engine but it's only as good as the team of developers using it. That makes a big difference.

I don't get all the bashing for All Out. Sure the past few game releases from that team haven't been perfect but we have very little info on All Out and no video's yet. To be honest it looks a lot more promising than the previous games. It might not be perfect but I personally think it'll be better than Reflex, Alive and Supercross/Encore and it looks like they're moving in the right direction.
Agreed. Why is there so much negativity and hate on the series? If they want to turn the series around and give me a great MX game to play, the by all means please do that so I can enjoy it! I remember enjoying Reflex and Alive a lot, but wishing for more realistic tracks and the usual stuff. It’s like everyone wants them to make an MXGP copy so they can get mad at them for copying MXGP or something. It’s different than MXGP and that’s what makes it stand out. I’m excited to see how this game turns out. And I look at their appearances at real MX and GNCC events to be a positive. How is this bad lmao??
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Agreed. Why is there so much negativity and hate on the series? If they want to turn the series around and give me a great MX...
Agreed. Why is there so much negativity and hate on the series? If they want to turn the series around and give me a great MX game to play, the by all means please do that so I can enjoy it! I remember enjoying Reflex and Alive a lot, but wishing for more realistic tracks and the usual stuff. It’s like everyone wants them to make an MXGP copy so they can get mad at them for copying MXGP or something. It’s different than MXGP and that’s what makes it stand out. I’m excited to see how this game turns out. And I look at their appearances at real MX and GNCC events to be a positive. How is this bad lmao??
It's really only coming from a few people, and is completely based on speculation. Tune them out, they just want to drop to their knees every time somebody mentions Milestone/MXGP.
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11/9/2017 11:31am Edited Date/Time 11/9/2017 11:32am
JohnnyMc wrote:
Lots of red flags from Rainbow for me. They would rather show this gameplay at special mx events for "feedback" and hold off videos until much...
Lots of red flags from Rainbow for me. They would rather show this gameplay at special mx events for "feedback" and hold off videos until much later? Hmm. The difference between the graphics of the trailer and the gameplay snapshot images look very different in terms of detail and lighting. (Not the case in Milestones SX videos.) Finally, that track does nothing for impressing me...a couple of spare trees around with heavy fog surrounding the area similar to mcm2 days. Props for finally putting banners around the track? They just got done making the Lucas Oil national track previews and they couldn't at least integrate some of the style and professional looking atmosphere? Where are the crowds, etc. Track looks like typical super wide track to fit 3-4 atvs and I see over on the right side what looks like 3 pre made ruts in a corner...again telling me that "terrain deformation" has been reduced to a gimmick compaired to deformation in games like Reflex had. I know all of this is pretty harsh, but if they really have been working on this stuff for 2 years of whatever, they shouldn't be so secretive about showing it off. Sad

Haven't even mentioned how Im so sick of the gamepad stick flicking "preload" gyration I had to do playing mx vs atv sx when I had the 360 version. Yeah, that was a great noise to hear others talking and the CLICK CLICK slamming of gamepad sticks being flicked lol. Milestone is upfront about it's game at least has the visuals to match it's video trailer releases. Can't wait to buy the Monster sx game from Milesone and good riddance to all the whip complainers and preload glitchers.
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From what I've read the terrain deformation in MX vs ATV All Out will be like a Reflex 2.0. so that's not necessarily a bad thing...
From what I've read the terrain deformation in MX vs ATV All Out will be like a Reflex 2.0. so that's not necessarily a bad thing if you ask me.

The graphics will be just as good as the Milestone SX game because they were both developed using the Unreal Engine 4. For Milestone the SX game will be their second game using that engine so they have more experience with it and have learned from it developing MXGP3. For the MX vs ATV team this will be their first one using that engine but it's safe to say that it's a lot better than their in-house engine they've used for the previous games. The Unreal Engine 4 is a powerful gaming engine but it's only as good as the team of developers using it. That makes a big difference.

I don't get all the bashing for All Out. Sure the past few game releases from that team haven't been perfect but we have very little info on All Out and no video's yet. To be honest it looks a lot more promising than the previous games. It might not be perfect but I personally think it'll be better than Reflex, Alive and Supercross/Encore and it looks like they're moving in the right direction.
Where are you reading and getting all this information on the game? I haven't seen Nordic post a release date, any physics remarks, terrain deformation info posted officially anywhere. There was a guy in here that said the game played like ATV Off-road Fury when he got to test it.

I've read this entire thread and haven't seen an official comment but a lot of speculation for sure.
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Agreed. Why is there so much negativity and hate on the series? If they want to turn the series around and give me a great MX...
Agreed. Why is there so much negativity and hate on the series? If they want to turn the series around and give me a great MX game to play, the by all means please do that so I can enjoy it! I remember enjoying Reflex and Alive a lot, but wishing for more realistic tracks and the usual stuff. It’s like everyone wants them to make an MXGP copy so they can get mad at them for copying MXGP or something. It’s different than MXGP and that’s what makes it stand out. I’m excited to see how this game turns out. And I look at their appearances at real MX and GNCC events to be a positive. How is this bad lmao??
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It's really only coming from a few people, and is completely based on speculation. Tune them out, they just want to drop to their knees every...
It's really only coming from a few people, and is completely based on speculation. Tune them out, they just want to drop to their knees every time somebody mentions Milestone/MXGP.
Agreed that it's only coming from a few on this board but if you look around on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, etc. There's plenty of people bitching and conplaining about it when there's almost no information out on it.

It just doesn't make sense but I suppose some people do it just to hear themselves talk.
11/9/2017 1:38pm
pmshortt2 wrote:
I’m hype for the new game. By the look of them sponsoring all of theses MX and GNCC events and with this national track they posted...
I’m hype for the new game. By the look of them sponsoring all of theses MX and GNCC events and with this national track they posted, I’m pretty excited by what they said. The girl in the interview talked pretty good things too. The only thing I’m worried about is physics.

That national track reminds me of Cedar Mills from MX Unleashed, looks badass. Just hope they get the physics right! It's been a while since I've played any of the MvA games.
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Agreed. Why is there so much negativity and hate on the series? If they want to turn the series around and give me a great MX...
Agreed. Why is there so much negativity and hate on the series? If they want to turn the series around and give me a great MX game to play, the by all means please do that so I can enjoy it! I remember enjoying Reflex and Alive a lot, but wishing for more realistic tracks and the usual stuff. It’s like everyone wants them to make an MXGP copy so they can get mad at them for copying MXGP or something. It’s different than MXGP and that’s what makes it stand out. I’m excited to see how this game turns out. And I look at their appearances at real MX and GNCC events to be a positive. How is this bad lmao??
zehn wrote:
It's really only coming from a few people, and is completely based on speculation. Tune them out, they just want to drop to their knees every...
It's really only coming from a few people, and is completely based on speculation. Tune them out, they just want to drop to their knees every time somebody mentions Milestone/MXGP.
Thanks to these freakin' idiots who complain all the time, Milestone added 2 strokes, improved the scrub mechanic, and improved terrain deformation in MXGP 3. Those were the complaints littered on their social media pages, and literally the 1st couple of marketing videos/pictures were created to say "Hey! We added 2 strokes AND improved the scrubs for yall!" If people put out a game with glaring flaws and we just give them a pat on a back and a participation trophy like y'all, they won't innovate or make the changes like they did to make MXGP 3 a dramatically better game. Milestone clearly cares about their customers and takes criticism into account, so they get my purchase. I can't say the same about THQ Nordic yet... I won't even mind if All Out ends up being bad, I just want to see some effort put into it and not have another game with repackaged physics and tracks from 2011. New engine sounds very promising.
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I can't imagine All Out being much worse than SX/Encore so I'm sure it will be an improvement. I still always support the series and hope they turn it around. It is imperative, though, to be constructive but also express to companies where they need to improve. That is how businesses progress. Thru feedback. Constructive feedback.

I'm always constructive and respectful. But I refuse to just bite my tongue when they continually can't get the speed of bikes or scale of tracks right. That should be priority 1. Making tracks extra wide because you have atvs in the game? Especially when doing Supercross replicas? Well, yeah, that gets me. Just simply have fewer atvs than bikes. Boom. Problem solved. Don't compromise the scale of the sport.

And the track scaling is magnified, especially in Supercross, by having only half the field of riders totally eliminating the tight aspect that is so integral to the sport. Tracks made too wide + only 12 riders equals not very Supercross like feeling. Again, to me. Just my opinion. Those are aspects and priorities FAR more crucial than whips and scrubs. At least to me.

That's why I liked Alive best in this series. But it was cut so short we got barely anything good. And everyone thinks I'm Milestone Milestone...which yes, MES looks to be everything I've ever wanted in a SX game and I can't wait for it...BUT I still go. on record and say that the single best MX experience on console was Alive's JS7 tracks. Period. I think that changes in February with MES but to this point Alive's JS7 stuff is the benchmark, especially for MVA.

But other than Alive, they have totally missed the mark on what should be priority 1. The non JS7 tracks blew in Alive but you could tell with those tracks that correct scaling and speed made for a challenging, yet fun and realistic feeling simcade experience.

I think All Out will be an improvement. But the scale will be off again....for the atvs. It does look like they did slow the game down some though per Michael's impressions. That's good news.

I hope we get some sort of actual MX and SX points series but I expect it to be abbreviated at best with so much concentration on all vehicles. And though we did finally get a points series again in Encore they again dropped the ball by not letting us have a points series with the 2017 replica tracks. That's just poor design.

And it was also a misstep not allowing us to choose which riders could participate. Thus your points series often only had only 2 elite riders in it, if that. Then again, with the AI so scattered and random a points series probably wouldn't even come close to making sense. But that's another can of worms I'll just stay clear of for now.

But hey...I'm ready and waiting and hoping All Out is good. I pre-ordered. I'm not that excited for this game anymore, admittedly, with the competition giving me exactly what I've always wanted, but I still always support and think this company can make a good MX game. But we're two months in guys....time to show us what you've been working on for two years. And I don't mean the soundtrack rotation.

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Any more news or are we still dead in the water on updates?
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Any more news or are we still dead in the water on updates?
Nothing new since the Transworld MX Mini Major. They say they still have plenty to share but they don't appear to be in any rush to release that information.

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