Are Millenials boring as crap?

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^^ That's a good example of why you DON'T let your kids play with your tools. Your boy somehow managed to modify your bike to where...
^^ That's a good example of why you DON'T let your kids play with your tools. Your boy somehow managed to modify your bike to where he could ride it! Laughing
Kids are crazy these days! LOL
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7/19/2017 7:55pm
I'm an old millennial since I was born in 1987. But I think I shouldn't be officially considered one because we didn't have smart phones in high school. That was a game changer.
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Laughing Steed ate a handful of ecstasy and ripped his shirt off when he saw this thread.
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Born in 92. Life seems pretty boring for me at this point but I still try to hang on to the kid I used to be...
Born in 92. Life seems pretty boring for me at this point but I still try to hang on to the kid I used to be. Although selling my Z1000 stung a lot.

I think the problem is incomes these days aren't high enough to facilitate being fun. I work 6 days a week to get by, and thats as a sales manager at a dealership. Pretty tough to have much fun when you're always worried about whether you're going to be able to pay the bills.
Bored at 25? Damn. I talked my first barricaded gunman out at 22. Maybe a career change if your life is boring and you're barely able to pay the bills? You're young enough that you can choose a different career path. Don't ever settle for "just getting by."
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I was born in '87. I feel no connection to my generation, and I am fine with that.
7/19/2017 11:59pm
Surely the traits of a certain generation are down to the previous generation? Ie the world they were raised in to, and how they were raised?
7/20/2017 12:04am
I'm an old millennial since I was born in 1987. But I think I shouldn't be officially considered one because we didn't have smart phones in...
I'm an old millennial since I was born in 1987. But I think I shouldn't be officially considered one because we didn't have smart phones in high school. That was a game changer.
Agree, smart phones and social media have had more of an effect on the generation shift than just years.
I was born in 85 and consider myself lucky that the internet and social media hadn't taken off properly until I made it out of school, even mobiles came late enough in my youth I could still memorise landline telephone numbers.
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BobPA wrote:
I was born in '87. I feel no connection to my generation, and I am fine with that.
86 and couldn't agree more with that statement
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I was born in '87. I feel no connection to my generation, and I am fine with that.
Same here. I am glad cell phones were still rare when I was in high school. A handful of people had the big square flip phones, but not many.

It's funny, when I was a kid me and my friends were out riding dirt bikes, bicycles and raising a little bit of hell. Ive been brought home by the police a few times as a kid doing dumb stuff. You don't see that anymore. I've been in law enforcement since 2010 and the only time I have seen a significant amount of kids outside their home was when that Pokemon now thing was popular. A damn cell phone app is the only thing that gets kids out of the house. It's crazy.
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I was born in '87. I feel no connection to my generation, and I am fine with that.
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86 and couldn't agree more with that statement
I'm in the same boat as you two.
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7/20/2017 9:14am Edited Date/Time 7/20/2017 9:22am
The older generations has...
- Allowed education to become extremely expensive (harder to go away to school).
- Allowed healthcare to become ridiculously expensive (to the point it will bankrupt us if we fuck around).
- Kept minimum wage at a laughable low (how do we buy fun shit?).
- Drastically raised housing prices (hard to save when you make shit all; unless of course you want to take on even more debt).
- Convinced all of us that ISIS will brutally murder us if we travel overseas.
- Convinced all of us that we should be so afraid of our neighbors that we all need guns to protect ourselves.

And we wonder why kids these days are having less fun? We can sit here all we want and blame technology, like people blamed books back in the day ("put down that book and go outside"), but as proven with books, technology (when viewed from a larger scope) breaks down more walls than it builds.

All said, I'm an 85' kid, and I've found a way to break through a lot of that stuff to live a pretty fun life. Travel a ton both domestically and internationally, I get out and play in the dirt as much as I can, have a pretty fun job, make decent money, etc. but the amount of fear when talking to people of the similar generational title is alarming. Fear of funds, fear of terrorism, fear of neighbors, etc.... it's depressing and we only have ourselves to blame; we let fear win.
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BobPA wrote:
I was born in '87. I feel no connection to my generation, and I am fine with that.
agn5009 wrote:
Same here. I am glad cell phones were still rare when I was in high school. A handful of people had the big square flip phones...
Same here. I am glad cell phones were still rare when I was in high school. A handful of people had the big square flip phones, but not many.

It's funny, when I was a kid me and my friends were out riding dirt bikes, bicycles and raising a little bit of hell. Ive been brought home by the police a few times as a kid doing dumb stuff. You don't see that anymore. I've been in law enforcement since 2010 and the only time I have seen a significant amount of kids outside their home was when that Pokemon now thing was popular. A damn cell phone app is the only thing that gets kids out of the house. It's crazy.
Lol Pokemon Go was a year ago. People died playing that game from not paying attention to their surrounding.

Growing up we did stupid shit all the time, ride dirt bikes, bmx, snowmobiling, pick up hockey, etc. Hell we'd get bored at 2 or 3 in the morning and just go for bike rides and be gone for hours. No care in the world.

I'd be interested if it has anything with where you grew up. City, suburbs, country? We grew up in a very small town out in the country and I wouldn't change it for anything in the world. I don't have kids but if I ever do I'm moving back to the country.

As far as cell phones in high school not many people had them. I couldn't even imagine being in high school these days. I know I couldn't be a teacher. Kids don't seem to have much respect and on their phones all the time. I'm a patient guy but when I'm talking to someone and they're playing with their phones it just pisses me off. Kids would just piss me off and I'd just tell them to STFU. I was a bit of an asshole myself but not in school. So kudos to all the teachers out there for dealing with little asshole's all over the world.
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7/20/2017 10:20am Edited Date/Time 7/20/2017 10:22am
[b]The older generations has...[/b] - Allowed education to become extremely expensive (harder to go away to school). - Allowed healthcare to become ridiculously expensive (to the...
The older generations has...
- Allowed education to become extremely expensive (harder to go away to school).
- Allowed healthcare to become ridiculously expensive (to the point it will bankrupt us if we fuck around).
- Kept minimum wage at a laughable low (how do we buy fun shit?).
- Drastically raised housing prices (hard to save when you make shit all; unless of course you want to take on even more debt).
- Convinced all of us that ISIS will brutally murder us if we travel overseas.
- Convinced all of us that we should be so afraid of our neighbors that we all need guns to protect ourselves.

And we wonder why kids these days are having less fun? We can sit here all we want and blame technology, like people blamed books back in the day ("put down that book and go outside"), but as proven with books, technology (when viewed from a larger scope) breaks down more walls than it builds.

All said, I'm an 85' kid, and I've found a way to break through a lot of that stuff to live a pretty fun life. Travel a ton both domestically and internationally, I get out and play in the dirt as much as I can, have a pretty fun job, make decent money, etc. but the amount of fear when talking to people of the similar generational title is alarming. Fear of funds, fear of terrorism, fear of neighbors, etc.... it's depressing and we only have ourselves to blame; we let fear win.
What is your profession if you do not mind sharing?

Good post by the way
7/20/2017 10:26am
[b]The older generations has...[/b] - Allowed education to become extremely expensive (harder to go away to school). - Allowed healthcare to become ridiculously expensive (to the...
The older generations has...
- Allowed education to become extremely expensive (harder to go away to school).
- Allowed healthcare to become ridiculously expensive (to the point it will bankrupt us if we fuck around).
- Kept minimum wage at a laughable low (how do we buy fun shit?).
- Drastically raised housing prices (hard to save when you make shit all; unless of course you want to take on even more debt).
- Convinced all of us that ISIS will brutally murder us if we travel overseas.
- Convinced all of us that we should be so afraid of our neighbors that we all need guns to protect ourselves.

And we wonder why kids these days are having less fun? We can sit here all we want and blame technology, like people blamed books back in the day ("put down that book and go outside"), but as proven with books, technology (when viewed from a larger scope) breaks down more walls than it builds.

All said, I'm an 85' kid, and I've found a way to break through a lot of that stuff to live a pretty fun life. Travel a ton both domestically and internationally, I get out and play in the dirt as much as I can, have a pretty fun job, make decent money, etc. but the amount of fear when talking to people of the similar generational title is alarming. Fear of funds, fear of terrorism, fear of neighbors, etc.... it's depressing and we only have ourselves to blame; we let fear win.
Very good post
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7/20/2017 10:29am Edited Date/Time 7/20/2017 10:57am
BobPA wrote:
I was born in '87. I feel no connection to my generation, and I am fine with that.
agn5009 wrote:
Same here. I am glad cell phones were still rare when I was in high school. A handful of people had the big square flip phones...
Same here. I am glad cell phones were still rare when I was in high school. A handful of people had the big square flip phones, but not many.

It's funny, when I was a kid me and my friends were out riding dirt bikes, bicycles and raising a little bit of hell. Ive been brought home by the police a few times as a kid doing dumb stuff. You don't see that anymore. I've been in law enforcement since 2010 and the only time I have seen a significant amount of kids outside their home was when that Pokemon now thing was popular. A damn cell phone app is the only thing that gets kids out of the house. It's crazy.
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Lol Pokemon Go was a year ago. People died playing that game from not paying attention to their surrounding. Growing up we did stupid shit all...
Lol Pokemon Go was a year ago. People died playing that game from not paying attention to their surrounding.

Growing up we did stupid shit all the time, ride dirt bikes, bmx, snowmobiling, pick up hockey, etc. Hell we'd get bored at 2 or 3 in the morning and just go for bike rides and be gone for hours. No care in the world.

I'd be interested if it has anything with where you grew up. City, suburbs, country? We grew up in a very small town out in the country and I wouldn't change it for anything in the world. I don't have kids but if I ever do I'm moving back to the country.

As far as cell phones in high school not many people had them. I couldn't even imagine being in high school these days. I know I couldn't be a teacher. Kids don't seem to have much respect and on their phones all the time. I'm a patient guy but when I'm talking to someone and they're playing with their phones it just pisses me off. Kids would just piss me off and I'd just tell them to STFU. I was a bit of an asshole myself but not in school. So kudos to all the teachers out there for dealing with little asshole's all over the world.
I do think the area type does play a factor. As you, because of the area I grew up in lead to a sense of worry free type of life. My only worries came from the potential punishment for doing something stupid.

As KW spoke about technology, I love it and it has made life easier for me in many ways. However, I feel like the same amount of fear has always been around. Because of technological advancements, it's so much easier to stay connected to the fear/issues that is being reported on. We decide to stay connected.
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7/20/2017 10:50am Edited Date/Time 7/20/2017 10:56am
JRT812 wrote:
What is your profession if you do not mind sharing?

Good post by the way
At the moment my focus has been entertainment related; writing, directing, shooting, editing, animating, etc. I come from the graphic design, web dev, marketing world which is helpful in this arena but I am pretty glad to be a bit removed from it.
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JRT812 wrote:
What is your profession if you do not mind sharing?

Good post by the way
At the moment my focus has been entertainment related; writing, directing, shooting, editing, animating, etc. I come from the graphic design, web dev, marketing world which...
At the moment my focus has been entertainment related; writing, directing, shooting, editing, animating, etc. I come from the graphic design, web dev, marketing world which is helpful in this arena but I am pretty glad to be a bit removed from it.
Enjoy the ride my friend!
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I was born in 96', and I have a few ideas about "Millenials" and the usual argument you hear surrounding them (us).

I find that nothing pisses me off more than being from a small town where almost every person over 40 thinks that kids these days are lazy and worthless, I honestly think the opposite. What a selfish and depressing way of viewing the world that is.

Here's an excerpt from an essay I wrote last year about my time working at Les Schwab (a tire shop for those not on the west side of the US). I was 18 while the next youngest employee was 30, we would burn through about 2-3 employee's a month because they didn't pay a livable starting wage for anybody over 21. He wouldn't hire anybody younger than 23. Most 23 year old's trying to find a job at $10 an hour probably weren't the best employees or had some reason they couldn't get a higher paying job. I saw that dilemma play out first hand, I worked there for 2 years.

"The manager would constantly complain about “entitled millennials”, and how they don’t like to work hard or have any type of work ethic. While I can’t totally disagree with the fact that kids between the ages of 18-24 may be less respectful and have less of a work ethic, nothing makes me more frustrated than hearing that from my elders. 98% of the time, it is managers or bosses that you hear this complaint from. First of all, when the baby boomers were fresh out of high school, you cannot tell me that the majority of them just had an incredible work ethic that kids today seem to not have… They were the same, they weren’t mature enough to understand how the world works. Just the same as millennials today. Second point, kids are a product of their reality. What generation raised these “kids”? Could it be that the same ones complaining about the “kids these days” are the same ones who raised them? Maybe their son/daughter was raised right, while everyone else who was raised by their peers wasn’t? Instead of complaining about how we have a lack of work ethic, I feel some of these managers need to take a look in the mirror and discover where the problem started. It’s not just us, it will be a problem for many generations to come. Most 18-year-olds don’t have bills, they don’t want to work as hard because they don’t have to, that doesn’t mean you can’t bring out the best in them. Be a mentor, rather than an enemy. I’m a true believer in the idea that if you treat your employees like they make a difference, they will make a difference. "

I know it's a little beside the main point here, but it's non-moto and I wanted to share my perspective on a real problem I see in today's managers
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I was born in 96', and I have a few ideas about "Millenials" and the usual argument you hear surrounding them (us). I find that nothing...
I was born in 96', and I have a few ideas about "Millenials" and the usual argument you hear surrounding them (us).

I find that nothing pisses me off more than being from a small town where almost every person over 40 thinks that kids these days are lazy and worthless, I honestly think the opposite. What a selfish and depressing way of viewing the world that is.

Here's an excerpt from an essay I wrote last year about my time working at Les Schwab (a tire shop for those not on the west side of the US). I was 18 while the next youngest employee was 30, we would burn through about 2-3 employee's a month because they didn't pay a livable starting wage for anybody over 21. He wouldn't hire anybody younger than 23. Most 23 year old's trying to find a job at $10 an hour probably weren't the best employees or had some reason they couldn't get a higher paying job. I saw that dilemma play out first hand, I worked there for 2 years.

"The manager would constantly complain about “entitled millennials”, and how they don’t like to work hard or have any type of work ethic. While I can’t totally disagree with the fact that kids between the ages of 18-24 may be less respectful and have less of a work ethic, nothing makes me more frustrated than hearing that from my elders. 98% of the time, it is managers or bosses that you hear this complaint from. First of all, when the baby boomers were fresh out of high school, you cannot tell me that the majority of them just had an incredible work ethic that kids today seem to not have… They were the same, they weren’t mature enough to understand how the world works. Just the same as millennials today. Second point, kids are a product of their reality. What generation raised these “kids”? Could it be that the same ones complaining about the “kids these days” are the same ones who raised them? Maybe their son/daughter was raised right, while everyone else who was raised by their peers wasn’t? Instead of complaining about how we have a lack of work ethic, I feel some of these managers need to take a look in the mirror and discover where the problem started. It’s not just us, it will be a problem for many generations to come. Most 18-year-olds don’t have bills, they don’t want to work as hard because they don’t have to, that doesn’t mean you can’t bring out the best in them. Be a mentor, rather than an enemy. I’m a true believer in the idea that if you treat your employees like they make a difference, they will make a difference. "

I know it's a little beside the main point here, but it's non-moto and I wanted to share my perspective on a real problem I see in today's managers
Didn't a good number of the baby boomers get shipped off to Vietnam after they graduated high school ?
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It is interesting to hear one generation say what they didn't do ,even though they didn't have the option IE cell phone usage.
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.....because, this.

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7/20/2017 9:12pm Edited Date/Time 7/20/2017 9:12pm
Don't get me wrong- I didn't say anything about these young people being lazy and worthless. Quite the contrary- they work as laboratory analysts or something. My niece is a few years out of college and is a civil engineer and my other niece is a hospitality manager at Marriott with an office and an assistant and in Hawaii right now on a vacation she earned from work. They are some of the hardest working people I know.
They do seem to have a very fearful and serious outlook on life. They think their uncle is a crazy old man who has a screw loose for racing moto all these years. It is only a certain type of younger person-- or maybe it is just a certain type of person I meet since I spend a lot of time around young professionals with careers.
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Exactly!
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agn5009 wrote:
Same here. I am glad cell phones were still rare when I was in high school. A handful of people had the big square flip phones...
Same here. I am glad cell phones were still rare when I was in high school. A handful of people had the big square flip phones, but not many.

It's funny, when I was a kid me and my friends were out riding dirt bikes, bicycles and raising a little bit of hell. Ive been brought home by the police a few times as a kid doing dumb stuff. You don't see that anymore. I've been in law enforcement since 2010 and the only time I have seen a significant amount of kids outside their home was when that Pokemon now thing was popular. A damn cell phone app is the only thing that gets kids out of the house. It's crazy.
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Lol Pokemon Go was a year ago. People died playing that game from not paying attention to their surrounding. Growing up we did stupid shit all...
Lol Pokemon Go was a year ago. People died playing that game from not paying attention to their surrounding.

Growing up we did stupid shit all the time, ride dirt bikes, bmx, snowmobiling, pick up hockey, etc. Hell we'd get bored at 2 or 3 in the morning and just go for bike rides and be gone for hours. No care in the world.

I'd be interested if it has anything with where you grew up. City, suburbs, country? We grew up in a very small town out in the country and I wouldn't change it for anything in the world. I don't have kids but if I ever do I'm moving back to the country.

As far as cell phones in high school not many people had them. I couldn't even imagine being in high school these days. I know I couldn't be a teacher. Kids don't seem to have much respect and on their phones all the time. I'm a patient guy but when I'm talking to someone and they're playing with their phones it just pisses me off. Kids would just piss me off and I'd just tell them to STFU. I was a bit of an asshole myself but not in school. So kudos to all the teachers out there for dealing with little asshole's all over the world.
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I do think the area type does play a factor. As you, because of the area I grew up in lead to a sense of worry...
I do think the area type does play a factor. As you, because of the area I grew up in lead to a sense of worry free type of life. My only worries came from the potential punishment for doing something stupid.

As KW spoke about technology, I love it and it has made life easier for me in many ways. However, I feel like the same amount of fear has always been around. Because of technological advancements, it's so much easier to stay connected to the fear/issues that is being reported on. We decide to stay connected.
Growing up the only thing we really had to worry about was the same thing you mentioned. Just afraid to be caught doing something stupid or someone seeing something and telling our parents. Discipline is so different these days and personally I think things have gone soft in that department. Nowadays You can't say too much or do too much because some whining neighbor or someone that has a grudge against you will call it in to child protection services.

We were disciplined and I'm not afraid to say I got a boot up my ass a couple times for being an asshole to my parents but I think I turned out pretty good. They weren't beating us by any means but they weren't afraid to put us in our place when we were out of line. When we were told to come inside and we didn't listen they weren't afraid to come outside and grab us by the arm and push us inside. Someone doing that today would probably get in trouble for it. Why? No idea. I don't consider it child abuse. It wasn't an everyday thing.
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Growing up the only thing we really had to worry about was the same thing you mentioned. Just afraid to be caught doing something stupid or...
Growing up the only thing we really had to worry about was the same thing you mentioned. Just afraid to be caught doing something stupid or someone seeing something and telling our parents. Discipline is so different these days and personally I think things have gone soft in that department. Nowadays You can't say too much or do too much because some whining neighbor or someone that has a grudge against you will call it in to child protection services.

We were disciplined and I'm not afraid to say I got a boot up my ass a couple times for being an asshole to my parents but I think I turned out pretty good. They weren't beating us by any means but they weren't afraid to put us in our place when we were out of line. When we were told to come inside and we didn't listen they weren't afraid to come outside and grab us by the arm and push us inside. Someone doing that today would probably get in trouble for it. Why? No idea. I don't consider it child abuse. It wasn't an everyday thing.
Haha I hear ya. My mother used to carry wooden spoons like she was rambo. So many stories of when the spoons or other items hit action because of dumb decisions haha
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At the moment my focus has been entertainment related; writing, directing, shooting, editing, animating, etc. I come from the graphic design, web dev, marketing world which...
At the moment my focus has been entertainment related; writing, directing, shooting, editing, animating, etc. I come from the graphic design, web dev, marketing world which is helpful in this arena but I am pretty glad to be a bit removed from it.
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At the moment my focus has been entertainment related; writing, directing, shooting, editing, animating, etc. I come from the graphic design, web dev, marketing world which...
At the moment my focus has been entertainment related; writing, directing, shooting, editing, animating, etc. I come from the graphic design, web dev, marketing world which is helpful in this arena but I am pretty glad to be a bit removed from it.
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Not quite the dream yet, haha, the budgets tend to be laughably small for the last few gigs but I'm hoping the quality of the work...
Not quite the dream yet, haha, the budgets tend to be laughably small for the last few gigs but I'm hoping the quality of the work starts pushing our little company forward.
I mean that line of work. I understand that it's probably pretty hard right now when you're starting out small in an industry as big as entertainment, but I'd love to do that kind of work--even on a small scale.

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