A3 Is Reed becoming Larocco?

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WhKnuckle wrote:
Reed becoming LaRocco? You're kidding, right? If I remember right, LaRocco competed in more AMA races than anyone ever did - Reed won't even show up...
Reed becoming LaRocco? You're kidding, right? If I remember right, LaRocco competed in more AMA races than anyone ever did - Reed won't even show up at a national because it's too hot, it's too far out in the sticks, his cell phone doesn't work way out there, the lunch isn't good enough, the tracks get ruts in them, it's dusty, it's muddy, there's rocks in the track, fans bother him, his motorhome got stuck...
AusMxFan wrote:
I honestly can't see how anyone could get such a twisted perception of someone. I've never heard Reed complain about weather, but I have heard him...

I honestly can't see how anyone could get such a twisted perception of someone.

I've never heard Reed complain about weather, but I have heard him say he looks forward to mud races.

I think maybe you could have the US flag wrapped way too tight around your head Wink
WhKnuckle wrote:
You must not have read the interview he did where he griped and bitched to high heaven about how horrible it was to have to ride...
You must not have read the interview he did where he griped and bitched to high heaven about how horrible it was to have to ride the Nationals.
Where can I find this interview? I must have missed it.

I did catch the interviews James gave saying he loved the outdoors but couldn't ride them because his team is doing SX only.
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When was the last time Stewart 'needed a better start' in order to win?




"His rides are amazingly solid and consistant, thats why he's 2 time champ..."
Really? So the fact that RC and JS were out had nothing to do with that? Riiight...



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WhKnuckle wrote:
Reed becoming LaRocco? You're kidding, right? If I remember right, LaRocco competed in more AMA races than anyone ever did - Reed won't even show up...
Reed becoming LaRocco? You're kidding, right? If I remember right, LaRocco competed in more AMA races than anyone ever did - Reed won't even show up at a national because it's too hot, it's too far out in the sticks, his cell phone doesn't work way out there, the lunch isn't good enough, the tracks get ruts in them, it's dusty, it's muddy, there's rocks in the track, fans bother him, his motorhome got stuck...
AusMxFan wrote:
I honestly can't see how anyone could get such a twisted perception of someone. I've never heard Reed complain about weather, but I have heard him...

I honestly can't see how anyone could get such a twisted perception of someone.

I've never heard Reed complain about weather, but I have heard him say he looks forward to mud races.

I think maybe you could have the US flag wrapped way too tight around your head Wink
He's smart-assing someone back. Pays to linger and figure out what's up before jumping in.
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If any of you can pay attention longer than a agitated geko, I was refering to Larocco's trademark rides through the pack after a poor start.

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Maybe we will remember the flag comment when the evil towel heads decide to pay your glorious country a visit and like the rest of the...
Maybe we will remember the flag comment when the evil towel heads decide to pay your glorious country a visit and like the rest of the world you scream at that flag for help.
Stick the Koala bears, the kangaroos, and Reed up your ass.
What the fuck does that mean?

If you speak to anyone in the US military they will tell you the US always asks for our help, not the other way around.
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Motodude wrote:
If any of you can pay attention longer than a agitated geko, I was refering to Larocco's trademark rides through the pack after a poor start.
hear where you are coming from dude but don't agree ....chad is usually a good starter and generally grabs several holeshots thru the SX season...this season has been his poorest for starts IMO.

Mikey probably weighs 20 pounds less ......that suk does'nt even know he's there...so CR should be practicing his starts against "mike.. the holeshot king"..


Oh and welcome back Smile
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Motodude wrote:
Great track, great racing. Good ride by Tedesco but he looked on the edge like an amatuer in his first pro race, very ragged and uncomfortable...
Great track, great racing. Good ride by Tedesco but he looked on the edge like an amatuer in his first pro race, very ragged and uncomfortable. Nice piece on Shorty. Grant put in a gutsy effort, should be really interesting when he gets outdoors.

Reed needs a start and some blistering first few laps. His rides are amazingly solid and consistant, thats why he's 2 time champ, wears the #1 plate and leads the series. But if he doesnt gets better starts and push from lap 1 he's going to get the Larocco tag.
I am not a huge Reed fan but Larocco could not carry Reeds jock on Reeds worst day. Larocco was not a charger. He was a steady as she goes guy. Reed charges every lap no matter what. This may be the worst comparison of riders in the history of moto boards.
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Larocco has won in every single AMA mx series 125,250,500, SX Reed has won one 125 moto by default Stewart crashed or broke can't remember what it was. I'm a Reed fan but to say LaRocco isn't on par is insanity, they both are 2 time champs only diffrence was Larocco beat the defending champ in the series each time,Reed never raced the defending champ for the whole series either time!!!!!!!
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WhKnuckle wrote:
Reed becoming LaRocco? You're kidding, right? If I remember right, LaRocco competed in more AMA races than anyone ever did - Reed won't even show up...
Reed becoming LaRocco? You're kidding, right? If I remember right, LaRocco competed in more AMA races than anyone ever did - Reed won't even show up at a national because it's too hot, it's too far out in the sticks, his cell phone doesn't work way out there, the lunch isn't good enough, the tracks get ruts in them, it's dusty, it's muddy, there's rocks in the track, fans bother him, his motorhome got stuck...
hehehe.
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2/11/2009 5:30am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:26pm
Motodude wrote:
Great track, great racing. Good ride by Tedesco but he looked on the edge like an amatuer in his first pro race, very ragged and uncomfortable...
Great track, great racing. Good ride by Tedesco but he looked on the edge like an amatuer in his first pro race, very ragged and uncomfortable. Nice piece on Shorty. Grant put in a gutsy effort, should be really interesting when he gets outdoors.

Reed needs a start and some blistering first few laps. His rides are amazingly solid and consistant, thats why he's 2 time champ, wears the #1 plate and leads the series. But if he doesnt gets better starts and push from lap 1 he's going to get the Larocco tag.
Obviously Reed is one of the most talented to throw a leg over a bike. The biggest chink in his armor though is that he is an Aussi, with their long history of mental weakness. His partial Aborigines roots save him from total failure. If he was an American, things would be much improved for his career & RC wouldn't have had any of those perfect seasons and would have been lucky to have just one championship.
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2/11/2009 5:51am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:26pm
Larocco & Reed is apples and oranges.
Fan of both of them but keep this in mind:
Larocco spent the end of his career doing sx only deals during a GOOD economy.
I'm amazed by the people that refuse to look at reeds stats.
Nevermind its during the RC & James era.
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2/11/2009 7:16am
didn't Reed end up about 5th out of the first turn at A3
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2/11/2009 7:39am
"Larocco has won in every single AMA mx series 125,250,500, SX"

With all due respect to LaRocco, that's false. He never won the 125 or AMA SX title. He won both the 250 and 500 series when those title ran short seasons of about five or six races each.
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WhKnuckle wrote:
Reed becoming LaRocco? You're kidding, right? If I remember right, LaRocco competed in more AMA races than anyone ever did - Reed won't even show up...
Reed becoming LaRocco? You're kidding, right? If I remember right, LaRocco competed in more AMA races than anyone ever did - Reed won't even show up at a national because it's too hot, it's too far out in the sticks, his cell phone doesn't work way out there, the lunch isn't good enough, the tracks get ruts in them, it's dusty, it's muddy, there's rocks in the track, fans bother him, his motorhome got stuck...
AusMxFan wrote:
I honestly can't see how anyone could get such a twisted perception of someone. I've never heard Reed complain about weather, but I have heard him...

I honestly can't see how anyone could get such a twisted perception of someone.

I've never heard Reed complain about weather, but I have heard him say he looks forward to mud races.

I think maybe you could have the US flag wrapped way too tight around your head Wink
Yeah... remember... it is not dusty, rocky, muddy, OUT IN THE BOONIES or HOT in Australia!!! What an idiot!
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BTW.. nothing wrong with either bike... just look at the lap times. Either JS or CR have the fastest lap times... no one else is even close. THis is all about starts. You cant let JS get out in front while you have to pass the pack.... JS is just too fast to let him get a 4 or 5 second head start by lap 2 or 3.
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[b]"Larocco has won in every single AMA mx series 125,250,500, SX"[/b] With all due respect to LaRocco, that's false. He never won the 125 or AMA...
"Larocco has won in every single AMA mx series 125,250,500, SX"

With all due respect to LaRocco, that's false. He never won the 125 or AMA SX title. He won both the 250 and 500 series when those title ran short seasons of about five or six races each.
I didn't say that ,read the post. I said he has won in every single series, neve said title I even said he is only a 2 time champ, but he did Win in every single series!!!
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AusMxFan wrote:
I honestly can't see how anyone could get such a twisted perception of someone. I've never heard Reed complain about weather, but I have heard him...

I honestly can't see how anyone could get such a twisted perception of someone.

I've never heard Reed complain about weather, but I have heard him say he looks forward to mud races.

I think maybe you could have the US flag wrapped way too tight around your head Wink
WhKnuckle wrote:
You must not have read the interview he did where he griped and bitched to high heaven about how horrible it was to have to ride...
You must not have read the interview he did where he griped and bitched to high heaven about how horrible it was to have to ride the Nationals.
SPYGUY wrote:
Where can I find this interview? I must have missed it. I did catch the interviews James gave saying he loved the outdoors but couldn't ride...
Where can I find this interview? I must have missed it.

I did catch the interviews James gave saying he loved the outdoors but couldn't ride them because his team is doing SX only.
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WhKnuckle wrote:
You must not have read the interview he did where he griped and bitched to high heaven about how horrible it was to have to ride...
You must not have read the interview he did where he griped and bitched to high heaven about how horrible it was to have to ride the Nationals.
SPYGUY wrote:
Where can I find this interview? I must have missed it. I did catch the interviews James gave saying he loved the outdoors but couldn't ride...
Where can I find this interview? I must have missed it.

I did catch the interviews James gave saying he loved the outdoors but couldn't ride them because his team is doing SX only.
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Still waiting to see where I can read or hear that interview with Reed saying those things about the Outdoors.

Some help, WhKnuckle?
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Oh, and as for the rest of this thread, I've got to give some respect to Larocco.

In the early to mid-90's, he was bad fast at SX and a threat to win any race he entered.
This was before the consistent 3rd-6th place finisher that be became towards the end of his career and is commonly remembered as now.

It was not uncommon for Larocco to match McGrath's laptimes and in many cases actually reel him in, her just often ran out of laps.

In '95 he was only 16 points down on McGrath at round 10 or so in Charlotte (and had some momentum built up) when he cased a triple and broke his wrist. And that's AFTER he DNF'd an early round due to a bike failure.


.......then he signed with Suzuki for '96.


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Motodude wrote:
Great track, great racing. Good ride by Tedesco but he looked on the edge like an amatuer in his first pro race, very ragged and uncomfortable...
Great track, great racing. Good ride by Tedesco but he looked on the edge like an amatuer in his first pro race, very ragged and uncomfortable. Nice piece on Shorty. Grant put in a gutsy effort, should be really interesting when he gets outdoors.

Reed needs a start and some blistering first few laps. His rides are amazingly solid and consistant, thats why he's 2 time champ, wears the #1 plate and leads the series. But if he doesnt gets better starts and push from lap 1 he's going to get the Larocco tag.
http://www.racerxonline.com/article/5-minutes-with-chad-reed-aussie.aspx

"And to be brutally honest, when I go riding during the week, I’m still faster than everybody that I go riding with. The thing is, those guys work so hard and they show up on the weekend and they do what they have to do and then on Monday morning you talk to them and they’re so pissed off and they’re so bummed. And that’s the thing: I honestly miss the racing, but I don’t miss the bullshit. Monday morning when you’re talking to them, all they want to do is just unload and vent. They’re like, “Man, the track was shit. The track did this. And this guy did this.” They’re not having fun. They’re just out there going through motions. That’s why I like the results the way they are, because I think everybody is going through the motions. Everybody is over it. The tracks are the same every year, they get worse and worse. I’ve seen them on TV and I tell you my couch feels awesome compared to those tracks."

By the way, I'm not one of the people who has a problem with a rider choosing to do SX only. Sure, it disappoint me not to see a talented contender not be in the mix, and riders shouldn't be surprised if fans express that disappointment. I think Reed at the time was reacting to the giref that he got, but PR wise he would have been better served by saying he can't do everything and he really valued to opportunity to pursue his home country's SX series to give something back to his homeland.
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2/12/2009 10:09am Edited Date/Time 2/12/2009 10:11am
[b]"Larocco has won in every single AMA mx series 125,250,500, SX"[/b] With all due respect to LaRocco, that's false. He never won the 125 or AMA...
"Larocco has won in every single AMA mx series 125,250,500, SX"

With all due respect to LaRocco, that's false. He never won the 125 or AMA SX title. He won both the 250 and 500 series when those title ran short seasons of about five or six races each.
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I didn't say that ,read the post. I said he has won in every single series, neve said title I even said he is only a...
I didn't say that ,read the post. I said he has won in every single series, neve said title I even said he is only a 2 time champ, but he did Win in every single series!!!
Fair enough, my mistake.
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2/12/2009 10:18am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:27pm
[url=http://www.racerxonline.com/article/5-minutes-with-chad-reed-aussie.aspx]http://www.racerxonline.com/article/5-minutes-with-chad-reed-aussie.aspx[/url] [b]"And to be brutally honest, when I go riding during the week, I’m still faster than everybody that I go riding with. The thing is...
http://www.racerxonline.com/article/5-minutes-with-chad-reed-aussie.aspx

"And to be brutally honest, when I go riding during the week, I’m still faster than everybody that I go riding with. The thing is, those guys work so hard and they show up on the weekend and they do what they have to do and then on Monday morning you talk to them and they’re so pissed off and they’re so bummed. And that’s the thing: I honestly miss the racing, but I don’t miss the bullshit. Monday morning when you’re talking to them, all they want to do is just unload and vent. They’re like, “Man, the track was shit. The track did this. And this guy did this.” They’re not having fun. They’re just out there going through motions. That’s why I like the results the way they are, because I think everybody is going through the motions. Everybody is over it. The tracks are the same every year, they get worse and worse. I’ve seen them on TV and I tell you my couch feels awesome compared to those tracks."

By the way, I'm not one of the people who has a problem with a rider choosing to do SX only. Sure, it disappoint me not to see a talented contender not be in the mix, and riders shouldn't be surprised if fans express that disappointment. I think Reed at the time was reacting to the giref that he got, but PR wise he would have been better served by saying he can't do everything and he really valued to opportunity to pursue his home country's SX series to give something back to his homeland.
Thank you!


I agree that it's disappointing when some of the top guys don't ride outdoors. I prefer seeing the best of the best go at it, even if one guy (like RC or Stewart) is running away with it. At least then you know that you're seeing the absolute fastest anyone in the world can circulate that track at that time.

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