Back Issues and Life Now

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Guys I wanted to start this thread based on some of what I've been reading in the main moto forum regarding all of your injuries and to tell my story and where I'm at right now. When I grew up we didn't have the money to buy dirt bikes and go racing so every time we went to town I made mom take me to all the bike dealerships and I just raided the brochures, every day I'd sit and look at the bikes just hoping one day I'd be able to ride.

Smash cut to now I've been riding for many years and although I never became very successful I love moto in any form there is....I just love it. I'll try not to drag this on but in 2008 I had a pretty severe wreck on the bike that was actually somewhat funny. I came up short on a nice size double in Magnolia, Ar. and when I landed my foot jams the back brake and I go end over end into the pond in the middle of February. Hence my nickname "Scuba Steve". This ruptured my L5/S1 severely, to the point that I couldn't hold my bladder and lets not talk about getting an erection. After all the therapy, shots, blockers, enough pain meds to kill a T-Rex I went and had a discogram performed in Shreveport, LA. Other than my kidney stones this is the most painful procedure I've ever had done and the results did show the L5 was the culprit. Laminectomy number 1, went in and it didn't help, nor did #2. So smash cut to surgery #3 at the Texas Back Institute in Plano, TX. This was a clinical study where they paid for everything, and I mean my hotels, gas, and food going back and forth for doctors visits post surgery. The night of the surgery obviously I was in a ton of pain but they threw my ass out of bed and down the hall walking I went. I don't want to go on and on about how well this surgery went but there's nothing I can't do now whether it's squatting in the weight room or lining up to race. No residual pain and life is good, except for..........

Now the fun part, how do I stop taking the pain medication. This is hard for me to even talk about to this day as I've always been very mentally strong but this I couldn't kick. I pray anyone who has to have surgery where they're taking pain medication that they have a strong partner by their side regulating what you take. After nine years this is a battle I fight especially when injuries occur on the track or in the trees riding. Help is out there and if anyone needs help and wants more info on how I've beat this battle just pm me and I'd love to talk about it.

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4/14/2017 6:16am
Dang man. That's a pretty cool story and nice of you to share.
4/14/2017 6:43am
I apologize, Bram, but I'm a bit fuzzy on whether or not you're still taking pain meds. Please clarify for those of us that should be named "Notsobright."
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4/14/2017 6:47am
Hang in there man with the pain meds. You're appear mentally strong and open. Both of those things are needed to battle through the tough times. Appreciate you sharing!
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4/14/2017 7:16am
Who was your surgeon? I had an L5/S1 fusion from the same group. Had a really good doctor and feel great.

Like any substance, you can get hooked if not careful. I'm no expert in how to kick the habit. Best advice would be to to cut back on the use until you give it up. if it's a serious problem you should seek professional help. If you are controlling it and not wrecking your life then you should cut back until it slowly leaves your system. If taking 2 pills a day. Cut to 1 and a half. Then when ready cut down to 1. Then down to a half pill. Then stop.

Again I'm no expert. Just going on what I sorta did. After surgery of course you are popping them like crazy and it makes you feel good. Then once you are healed up you realize it makes you feel great after popping one. So you pop a pill have a few beers and have a great buzz going.

It's very easy to get hooked if you are not careful. It's just like any other drug.

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4/14/2017 10:14am
I apologize, Bram, but I'm a bit fuzzy on whether or not you're still taking pain meds. Please clarify for those of us that should be...
I apologize, Bram, but I'm a bit fuzzy on whether or not you're still taking pain meds. Please clarify for those of us that should be named "Notsobright."
No man I am not...been off for some time. I fractured my ankle about a year and a half ago and it started all over. Regardless of how many I'd have to take, whether one week or even a couple of days...I'd be in the same hole as if I were on a 6 month bender.
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4/14/2017 10:15am
TXDirt wrote:
Who was your surgeon? I had an L5/S1 fusion from the same group. Had a really good doctor and feel great. Like any substance, you can...
Who was your surgeon? I had an L5/S1 fusion from the same group. Had a really good doctor and feel great.

Like any substance, you can get hooked if not careful. I'm no expert in how to kick the habit. Best advice would be to to cut back on the use until you give it up. if it's a serious problem you should seek professional help. If you are controlling it and not wrecking your life then you should cut back until it slowly leaves your system. If taking 2 pills a day. Cut to 1 and a half. Then when ready cut down to 1. Then down to a half pill. Then stop.

Again I'm no expert. Just going on what I sorta did. After surgery of course you are popping them like crazy and it makes you feel good. Then once you are healed up you realize it makes you feel great after popping one. So you pop a pill have a few beers and have a great buzz going.

It's very easy to get hooked if you are not careful. It's just like any other drug.
His name is Jack Ziegler....you can google the cat and there's some nice info on the process.
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4/14/2017 10:53am
Dude, GET HELP. Addiction is a serious thing and it isn't a mental weakness on your part. Most pain meds are opioid-based and can be physically habit-forming. Some people are even more genetically predisposed to opioid addiction than others. Say what you want about addicts being weak or making the wrong choices, but the fact remains that it is hard to kick that stuff.
Go see a specialist and get on a program.
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4/14/2017 12:13pm
Falcon wrote:
Dude, GET HELP. Addiction is a serious thing and it isn't a mental weakness on your part. Most pain meds are opioid-based and can be physically...
Dude, GET HELP. Addiction is a serious thing and it isn't a mental weakness on your part. Most pain meds are opioid-based and can be physically habit-forming. Some people are even more genetically predisposed to opioid addiction than others. Say what you want about addicts being weak or making the wrong choices, but the fact remains that it is hard to kick that stuff.
Go see a specialist and get on a program.
hey buddy I do appreciate your concern and I'm doing great right now I've got an awesome support system and program in place. My main reason for coming out and talking about this is that I'd been reading more often stories on the main moto page. If I can help anyone and I mean anyone I want to do that, if my experiences and coming out to talk about it help another person who loves to ride man that would make my day.
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4/14/2017 2:16pm
Good news, man. Good luck and stay on it!
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4/14/2017 11:25pm
Good on ya brother, keep working! The list is large of folks right here on Vital who have been exactly where you've been. Smile
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4/15/2017 11:12pm
I have severely compressed t5 and t6.
On a scale of 1-10
Normally wake up with pain at 4 by mid day its 6 by early evening 8-9.
I try and cycle the pain meds.
The back pain I experience can keep me awake most of the night.
Use Hydro codon only as a sleep aid and never more that 1 pill per night.

Its tempting to take Hydro Codon during the day but I wont do it.
For the most part I tough it out during the day and keep myself occupied/distracted.
After a bit (20 days or so) I stop with the opiates and take 600+ mg of Ibuprofen in the early afternoon to evening.
Does not make the pain subside but does take a bit of the edge off.
If sleeping is still an issue I will take Ibuprofin PM
eventually the Ib doesnt work very well.
Then mix Ibuprofin with Tylenol for a few weeks.
I try and tolerate the pain as much as possible, you can build up quite a bit of tolerance to pain.
If I can sleep I wont take anything.
The pain really sucks but I have seen too many people in this sport become dependent on opiates
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You have to constantly remind yourself that addiction is much worse than the pain.


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I have severely compressed t5 and t6. On a scale of 1-10 Normally wake up with pain at 4 by mid day its 6 by early...
I have severely compressed t5 and t6.
On a scale of 1-10
Normally wake up with pain at 4 by mid day its 6 by early evening 8-9.
I try and cycle the pain meds.
The back pain I experience can keep me awake most of the night.
Use Hydro codon only as a sleep aid and never more that 1 pill per night.

Its tempting to take Hydro Codon during the day but I wont do it.
For the most part I tough it out during the day and keep myself occupied/distracted.
After a bit (20 days or so) I stop with the opiates and take 600+ mg of Ibuprofen in the early afternoon to evening.
Does not make the pain subside but does take a bit of the edge off.
If sleeping is still an issue I will take Ibuprofin PM
eventually the Ib doesnt work very well.
Then mix Ibuprofin with Tylenol for a few weeks.
I try and tolerate the pain as much as possible, you can build up quite a bit of tolerance to pain.
If I can sleep I wont take anything.
The pain really sucks but I have seen too many people in this sport become dependent on opiates
.
You have to constantly remind yourself that addiction is much worse than the pain.


You're exactly right about that...you don't wake up one day and the big "A" word is just gone. It'll follow you the rest of your life brother. You are very strong willed and disciplined it seems so keep it up. The biggest thing is the mind, keeping that thing occupied and away from the thoughts of pain and all I have to do is take this and I'll feel better. Thank you all for the positive comments.
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4/17/2017 9:11pm
My sister was in a pretty bad way too. She was a functioning a functioningshe low level addict. She had a fusion as well, her 3rd I think. She used he main management specialist to wean her off. She was in a rehab facility because she had some bad reactions to anesthesiology and pain management after her surgery. She did a stepdown thing like has been mentioned during her rehab and was in a lot of pain. She only uses Tylenol now. Get with a pro and do not go it alone.
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4/18/2017 2:41pm Edited Date/Time 4/18/2017 2:49pm
I recently wadded and broke my T5, T8, T9, all but 2 ribs on my right side, collar bone, collapsed lung, liver damage, kidney bruising, hematoma, internal bleeding, and a few other fun things. I was off the pain meds 2 months into recovery. I still drink lots CL Smooth though. The spine doc says I now have the back of a 60 year old (I'm 35) but will recovery to nearly 100% and I go back to work next week after being off for 4 months, it will be like my re-enetrance to society
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4/18/2017 5:22pm
I have way too much experience from opiate addiction and know it from every angle. You have a few options here

1. Cold turkey. Very difficult, not usually successful since you suffer so much most people turn back to using

2. Taper down. This is also difficult because again, most people will just say ehhh ill just have my normal dose today and start tomorrow...

3. Replacement therapy. Suboxone/subutex. This would be my suggestion. Just dont let this turn into another addiction. I have used it myself and thankfully theres no high or buzz from it so you dont mentally crave it, it just alleviates you of withdrawal.

Honestly, it is what you make it. A positive attitude will take you a long ways. When you kick, the first thing your gonna think is this is hell, life will be fine if i could just stay on the pills. Your brain will do anything possible to keep you using/get you to use again.

If you end up using subs, let me know id like to gibe you some pointers for the induction as the docs that hand them out dont know much about them.
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And i dont mean to preach or harp, but let me tell you a fact : if you continue to use (again, i know yoir on pain pills not shooting dope) today will be the best things are going to get for you. Tomorrow will be worse, and so will the following day.

I thought i had it all under control, and i was smarter than everyone else who got addicted. I wasnt gonna be a statistic! 5 years later... anyway man, dont let it take you any farther down the rabbit hole. The longer you stay on the harder it is to get off.
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4/18/2017 7:01pm
Hoping the best for you man. You too Rudy, hope it goes well.
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4/19/2017 1:06pm
rubarb wrote:
I recently wadded and broke my T5, T8, T9, all but 2 ribs on my right side, collar bone, collapsed lung, liver damage, kidney bruising, hematoma...
I recently wadded and broke my T5, T8, T9, all but 2 ribs on my right side, collar bone, collapsed lung, liver damage, kidney bruising, hematoma, internal bleeding, and a few other fun things. I was off the pain meds 2 months into recovery. I still drink lots CL Smooth though. The spine doc says I now have the back of a 60 year old (I'm 35) but will recovery to nearly 100% and I go back to work next week after being off for 4 months, it will be like my re-enetrance to society
I know what that feels like and it's not the best way to come back to work. Getting back to normal is the best thing in the world, especially for me. Regardless of any of our injuries, not letting the grass grow under our feet is the only way to move forward. I wish you the best of luck my friend and hey my damn doctor told me the same thing about my back and having the back of an 80 year old. Don't let that shit sink into your brain, yeah you take it easy and heal up but your mental attitude has a lot to do with how well you'll do in the future. Keep your chin high my friend and again if anyone ever needs to talk feel free to look me up!!!! 903-277-3451
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4/19/2017 1:12pm
doofy wrote:
And i dont mean to preach or harp, but let me tell you a fact : if you continue to use (again, i know yoir on...
And i dont mean to preach or harp, but let me tell you a fact : if you continue to use (again, i know yoir on pain pills not shooting dope) today will be the best things are going to get for you. Tomorrow will be worse, and so will the following day.

I thought i had it all under control, and i was smarter than everyone else who got addicted. I wasnt gonna be a statistic! 5 years later... anyway man, dont let it take you any farther down the rabbit hole. The longer you stay on the harder it is to get off.
I Don't take what any of you guys say as preaching ok. I'm in a good place right now my main focus with all of this to try and give back a little hope to the guys that don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. My best friend in the whole world tells me this is what I'm meant to do, talk about it and help those who need it. I sure hope so!!

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