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I guess you're moto "in-the-know" is far superior to us fatties. time to turn around and head to krispy kreme I guess matt and dave; I'll buy.
This is an excellent point. Just a great example of what riding a PC bike or using a PC engine can do for your confidence.
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And Farva, I'm going to stand behind what I've said. To the best of my knowledge, it is true as of the last day I worked on my project in Dec. 2007 when the program I managed went nascar-ing down the road.
They could be right or the might not be I will most likely never know because I'm not an engine builder for P.C.
You really think you're something special don't ya?
When was the last time Mitch had a motor torn down by the AMA?
Stick Ralph Shaheen on a PC bike and he'd be on the box, no doubt.
But Payton uses HIS team engines as the development arm for future race engines for customer supported teams, then all the development that is learned form HIS engines and the CUSTOMER race engines combined will eventually be passed down to the consumer.
A full blow race engine, like the engines his riders uses are pushing the limits in cutting edge performance. From the gearbox, gearbox ratio's, pistons, cams, cylinder and head work, engine heat, etc.... everything is being pushed to the limits during a race. HIS engines get rebuilt after every race and EVERYTHING is measured, logged, and analyzed. The life span on his race engines are designed to go a certain hours and they are done. Period...
And if we were all in his shoes, everyone one of us would do the same thing. Which is looking for an advantage. Payton puts together the sponsorship, and if doesn't have the $ to do it, he reaches into his own pocket and pays for the development himself. Also Payton went out and hired Drino Miller and I can bet the farm Drino is not working for free and making a good penny from Mitch... BTW, Miller came from TRD and Porsche as one of the leaders in engine development for those respected companies. Drino heads up Pro Circuits R@D department BTW regarding engine development.
Remember, Payton is a racer (and a very fast one in the desert before he got hurt). He wants to give all his riders, mechanics, and support personal on HIS TEAM all the right tools to go WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS.... and he has done that. It's a combination of a lot of little things that makes HIS TEAM a winner. Pro Circuits record speaks for themselves.
So are the customer engines up to his level of performance? I would say close, but not like his. Customer race engines are usually one step behind in development. But remember, customer race engines are customer race engines... from the professional side on down. All his engines need to have performance, they need to be reliable, and to meet certain things what the CUSTOMER wants. And consumer engines need to perform (just not at the limit) and be reliable too.
First and foremost, Pro Circuit is a business... They sell race engines and suspension parts... and racing is Paytons marketing arm (being his team or customer race teams) to sell HIS parts to you, me, and everybody else who wants a solid performing bike.
BTW as for other companies competing against Pro Circuit, MDK is using COSWORTH as their development arm to help build their engines. COSWORTH's history in the auto racing world is legendary. Also, the factory Honda's in the past has sought out METALORE (a cutting edge engineering F1 supplier of gearbox and internal engine components) to help improve some engine and gearbox parts from Japan.
As well as every other top five finishing bike.
Pit Row
Mike alessi from ktm to Suzuki
Chad from yamaha to Suzuki
Weimer from honda to PC
Metty from PC to Honda
Even the likes of wil Hahn from yamaha to ktm.
Everyone needs a change, otherwise they get stale. Maybe weimer just needed a change.
take it easy
they don't
Chad....If you say so he aint won yet
Weimer...Definately
Metty....He has had one race give me a break
So everytime a rider changes they improve? And without a doubt if they join the PC team they improve? You have bumped your nugget.
After the races, they tear down the top five (placing) bikes and inspect, for legal displacement/specs.
I just put in a call to verify. This is how it is done in Motocross, Supercross may be different.
I will clarify when I get the call.
They also test again for sound, and fuel, after the race.
Brian, doesn't do it anymore, he works mainly on the sound issues. But according to his son, the top three engines are inspected. As it were at Anaheim Saturday, he says. To what depth I cannot answer.
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