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From "Zaps" story of A3 on "Motocrossaction.com".......
(Luckily) there's never any shortage of old guys at the races giving grief to the new age riders. But when that one particular old guy happens to be David Bailey, you're pretty much guaranteed a good earful. "I can't believe these guys today," said the former factory Honda rider. "For too many of them being mediocre is good enough. I can't believe that I spent two hours driving here to watch 14 minutes of racing and one guy actually trying. If I hear one more rider say how he's out there having fun I'm gonna go crazy!"
DITTO...........
Dave O.
(Luckily) there's never any shortage of old guys at the races giving grief to the new age riders. But when that one particular old guy happens to be David Bailey, you're pretty much guaranteed a good earful. "I can't believe these guys today," said the former factory Honda rider. "For too many of them being mediocre is good enough. I can't believe that I spent two hours driving here to watch 14 minutes of racing and one guy actually trying. If I hear one more rider say how he's out there having fun I'm gonna go crazy!"
DITTO...........
Dave O.
Lets talk about heart and determination.
Dude lost to a air-cooled YZ490 riding a Works HRC 500.
Lazy...really lazy IMO...he should have won every gawd damn moto...yet he lost
I rather hear what Broc Glover has to say...now thats a CHAMPION...SIX TIME!
Im definately not a fan of 14 minutes of racing......
DB needs to realize the sport is a little different then when he was out there.
I heard what Glover had to say, as we hung out
during a "main event "recently.
Funny, he "ditto-d" David's bit just about word for word!
& also, Broc never fails to name him as 1 of his toughest
competitors.
Have a nice night!
Dave O.
"DB needs to realize the sport is a little different then when he was out there."
It's all the same.
Sure the bikes are alittle better!
But it's more the same than you think.
How do I know, cause I've been in it
for sometime.
Sure he's being "general" yet he's correct!
Look, outside of the main 2, JS & CR, & aside from
JG & RV, everyone else is everyone else. Again, is it easy,
no it's not, but they're PROFESSIONALS!.
Going through the motions, yes, but "motions" aren't enough!
That's what David's saying!
No more no less.
Dave O.
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Don't get me wrong what DB has accomplished is amazing.
Would he be considered an icon if it wasn't for his paralysis?
The old days were different, but in no way were the riders "better" more skilled or better conditioned. Tracks have changed, bikes have changed and the level of competition is much different today compared from the days of Bailey. The biggest difference is the fact there was no RC, JS or CR in that era and because of that the racing just seemed better.
"Winging" - LMAO
This is the same David Bailey that completed the Iron Man three times without the use of his legs?
Ironman World Champions are usually know as lazy people.
You are a fucking Idiot, seriously.
"If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough"...Mario Andretti
These words hold true in our sport too....
Its the what if affect. If people like James Dean, Marilyn Monroe and Buddy Holly did not die young would they matter today. I say no. Why?? there legends were made by there premature death. Bailey getting hurt falls in those same lines.
Now back to the subject.......I agree with what David & Broc were saying. Back then there were 10 guys who could win week after week. To become a champion you had to be consistent and win a few.
Why is it 99.6% of today's riders settle? Why is it that a rider is able to completely dominate without a hungry rider challenging him with all he has?
Think about this......there is a hand full of riders who try in the first couple of races but then settle into a survival mode. Is in injury's or do they just give up and settle?
I noticed this years ago with DV. If he had a shot at the championship he was a hard charger. Once he was slightly out of points contention you could see him cruising till the next championship.
I was hoping Villy would jump in the mix and shake things up this year. Unless someone steps up and challenges Bubba into making mistakes the season is over.
Pit Row
There's nobody out there that can challenge Stewart. Stewart will dominate SX till he decides to shut it down. The best thing to happen to RV and the rest of the riders out there is that Stewart is not going to run the outdoors. Stewart is not beatable indoors or outdoors right now.
I don't get it either... well maybe I do.... $ per finish
stewart is a cut above...simple as that
tigers woods...simple as that.
jordon...simple as that.
gretzky...simple as that.
Bubba is a great competitor and he has earned his success but IMO it really sucks when there is a dominate rider. I guess that is why I like the Lights class so much as you can not completely predict the winner before the race.
Yes I have watched Bailey ride in person and I agree he was smooth as silk and the most technical rider of his time.
Now back to the subject.......I agree with what David & Broc were saying. Back then there were 10 guys who could win week after week. To become a champion you had to be consistent and win a few.
I agree with that to a point, I don’t think there were ten riders that could win but at least a half a dozen that could. That doesn’t mean that those riders had more heart or better work ethic. It means there were no JS, RC or CR to deal with. Another point that you and others are missing is the fact that, in that at that time a large percentage of the gate was filled with local or more of a regional level pros fighting tooth and nail for that next spot. That’s not the case today.
Why is it 99.6% of today's riders settle? Why is it that a rider is able to completely dominate without a hungry rider challenging him with all he has?
99.6%?
Why not just round it off and call it100%?
First off the riders of today are on a much different type of track than the tracks of the past. Speeds are greater, distances between the obstacles are farther apart and the projection of height from the jumps and other obstacles are much higher. Today’s tracks are less forgiving of simple mistakes and when those mistakes occur it usually translates into injury. That’s why you’re not going to see the “go for broke” type of riding you did in the past. The second and most important point (IMHO) is that if you were to remove Reed and Stewart from next weeks race who would win? If you were to answer that question honestly you answer would be “I don’t know” could be three or four different guys.
Think about this......there is a hand full of riders who try in the first couple of races but then settle into a survival mode. Is in injuries or do they just give up and settle?
Addressed above
I noticed this years ago with DV. If he had a shot at the championship he was a hard charger. Once he was slightly out of points contention you could see him cruising till the next championship.
Addressed above
I was hoping Villy would jump in the mix and shake things up this year. Unless someone steps up and challenges Bubba into making mistakes the season is over.
One minute you’re agreeing with others that say today’s riders have no heart, then you make a comment that expresses you disappointment with RV who is trying so hard that he is crashing himself out.
I have nothing but respect for Bailey and he is a true icon to our sport but sometimes even icons say things they souldn't. Ozzy, for some reason you felt the need to stir a little shit this morning and it resulted in some people saying things that they shouldn't have about Bailey.
Now all of you old hard core moto guys need to head into the garage, put in a CD of one of your 25 to 30 year old bands. Break out some rags and polish up your old bike that’s sitting on the stand and fantasize about how you would have done things differently if you were ever good enough to become one of today’s top pro riders.
Do you have any kids and if so are they clueless?
Disclaimer: I don't know shit.
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250 RACE TIME: 16:10.75 min
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