Supercross needs change.

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wsc96 3/31/2017 10:39pm
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I didn't think the blue groove lines after the finish were the stadium floor showing through and I don't agree with the single "hot lap" before racing on the track for safety reasons as you pointed out.

With the line choices and technology, I think the track builders need to try make multiple lines through each corner and section close enough in time that the fastest line changes throughout the race (as the track deteriorates) or is a viable option if you're behind a rider and can make a pass if you push or they bobble.
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tobz 3/31/2017 10:53pm
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I don't think it's about making two lines that are of similiar speed, there'll always be the one line that they pick up on their analysis that's a fraction faster.

What needs to happen to open up passing opportunities is to make the outside line faster, but keep a viable inside line that's shorter in distance (not necessarily faster, but can be used to take a position away). Something that seemed to be easier in the two stroke days where railing a berm was essential in keeping momentum.


Other than that all that needs to change to keep "Joe Blow" watching our sport is not have 3 hours of pointless television before the 15 and 20 minute mains.

Follow motogp or f1's suit. Have simple qualifying in the morning (make an internet feed available for the core fans). The an hour prime time program for the night show.
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wsc96 3/31/2017 11:00pm
3/31/2017 11:00pm
I agree with creating options to be able to take another riders line away.
Marcus Beasley 3/31/2017 11:05pm
3/31/2017 11:05pm
I think there needs to be more races in bigger stadiums. I think a track like the MXGP race in Charlotte would be awesome for the Supercross series. Tired of all the same tracks and obstacles just placed in different stadiums.

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wsc96 3/31/2017 11:12pm
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The enthusiasts wouldn't like it but perhaps the TV package would better suit "Joe Blow" to tune in and see highlights of the heats and semis only and lead straight into the 250 final live followed by the 450s. Could cut it all down to a 1 hour show. Similar to how the Nationals do.
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norcal racer 4/1/2017 12:10am
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Marcus Beasley wrote:
I think there needs to be more races in bigger stadiums. I think a track like the MXGP race in Charlotte would be awesome for the...
I think there needs to be more races in bigger stadiums. I think a track like the MXGP race in Charlotte would be awesome for the Supercross series. Tired of all the same tracks and obstacles just placed in different stadiums.
This. The charlotte GP was some of the best racing of the year
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Or how about instead of showing less racing, they show less of the nothingness in between races??? It boggles mind how some of you.guys are trying to get less dirt bikes on the show. Maybe start an hour tape delay, cut out all the bulls hit while they're doing track maintenance and time it so we're live for the mains. Shouldn't be too hard to do now that everything is timed. Now you're in a 2 hour window that is actually fill of racing and has a nice flow.
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wsc96 4/1/2017 12:27am
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Or how about instead of showing less racing, they show less of the nothingness in between races??? It boggles mind how some of you.guys are trying...
Or how about instead of showing less racing, they show less of the nothingness in between races??? It boggles mind how some of you.guys are trying to get less dirt bikes on the show. Maybe start an hour tape delay, cut out all the bulls hit while they're doing track maintenance and time it so we're live for the mains. Shouldn't be too hard to do now that everything is timed. Now you're in a 2 hour window that is actually fill of racing and has a nice flow.
Pretty sure people on this site are all enthusiasts (with the odd troll) and want as much racing as possible on TV so not sure who the "you guys" are but if Joe Blow can focus on racing for 2 hours then I think you have just provided the best possible solution for the vast majority.
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brightgrey 4/1/2017 1:13am
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Get rid of the dirt and put in astro-turf.
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rancor19 4/1/2017 3:37am
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That link seems kinda April-foolie but I'll keep saying it:

Friday night qualifying (sell tickets)

2 mains in each class on Saturday with some kind of intermission race(125's) at halftime. This means less wear and tear on the track on race night and another chance to get a good start if you flub the first one.
Also, introduce EVERY rider that makes the show(they used to do this) and do away with the twatter and other BS.

More about the racing and racers = Better
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mx 219 4/1/2017 5:57am
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I was watching a soccer game last night after my workout and im not a soccer guy, but they hold a ton of people and are bigger than foot all stadiums, at least a little. I thought they could make some nice sized tracks in there for the early roubds. Maybe have a1 then go to the soccer stadiums in January and February then go back to baseball and football stadiums after that.

I agree with the charlotte idea as well. If there were more rounds like Daytona I think the series would be a little safer and see more guys make it the whole sx season.

I would say go away from the qualifying except maybe lcq''s or maybe for people outside the top 10 in timed practice.
Deal Brothers Trailers 4/1/2017 6:58am
4/1/2017 6:58am
More options for riders to gain points.....earn points for heat wins etc.

2 main events...maybe each 10 minutes + 1 lap.

Fewer big jumps (less time in the air...more time on the dirt competing)

...more turns with passing opportunities....
okieonayamaha 4/1/2017 7:31am
4/1/2017 7:31am
I would like if they showed clips from the qualifying during the day. Not all the big names that clear everything with ease but the local privateer type who's making attempts. Not necessarily a profile piece but something to show the less involved fan how challenging certain sections are. Like in C group when someone doesn't carry enough momentum out of a corner to clear a triple and comes up a bit short. I don't mean the wrecks either. Just to show people the tracks aren't cookie cutter to everyone.

As far as making a layout where there can be options I'm not for sure but I wouldn't mind seeing something like an elevated berm where you got the basic 3' to 4' jump onto the elevated corner. The difference I would have and I have no clue if it would work fyi lol. Is the outside berm you can rail but instead of jumping off them turn actually angles down to being on the flat by the end. The inside of the corner would be another berm but not quite as tall and on the exit of it is the extreme drop off from the elevation. Not a lip for a jump because we all know the bikes can clear most anything. Just a drop to throw someone off rhythm. The only way to make the two competitive would be to have the outer part of berm extend quite a ways farther back than the inside berm. On exit it would also be cool to have a split lane option for about half a straight or so, riders are jumping opposite rhythms, and have the split end and lane becomes full width going into the face of a triple. Not sure if any good or absolutely retarded but I figured it would be good to see how they handled just a straight drop off instead of normal jumps. I would think everyone would take the outside but if they knew the inside was challenging but a little faster some might go for it.
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bdub 4/1/2017 8:09am
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tobz wrote:
I don't think it's about making two lines that are of similiar speed, there'll always be the one line that they pick up on their analysis...
I don't think it's about making two lines that are of similiar speed, there'll always be the one line that they pick up on their analysis that's a fraction faster.

What needs to happen to open up passing opportunities is to make the outside line faster, but keep a viable inside line that's shorter in distance (not necessarily faster, but can be used to take a position away). Something that seemed to be easier in the two stroke days where railing a berm was essential in keeping momentum.


Other than that all that needs to change to keep "Joe Blow" watching our sport is not have 3 hours of pointless television before the 15 and 20 minute mains.

Follow motogp or f1's suit. Have simple qualifying in the morning (make an internet feed available for the core fans). The an hour prime time program for the night show.
I think you are onto something. I will watch the races with friends that don't follow the sport sometimes, and to get them to keep focus for 3 hours is next to impossible. By the time the mains are up, they have already checked out mentally(one of my buddies calls it "Commercial Cross"). Make qualifying and the heat races on a "race day live" type feed, then you would be able to fit both mains in a 60-90 minute show. Also, I really think they are missing out by not going into the pits before the mains to talk with the riders. Most races have some sort of controversy that happens in the heat races, capitalize on that to get a bigger audience. Reality TV is huge nowadays, and talking with a lot of the riders every week (while they are in their pits) would help attract more fans imo. Imagine a Dungey interview before the main talking about the track, heats, all while you see Ian and Roger in the backround wrenching on the bike.
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kzizok 4/1/2017 8:47am
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Thats a lot of work for an April fools prank. The dead give aways were the topic (otherwise known as a dead horse beating) and the link went to TT. Gotta admire the effort though!
Chris_Cooksey 4/1/2017 4:09pm
4/1/2017 4:09pm
Start in 2 waves, give the top 10 qualifiers in the Main and top 20 in the night show some incentive.
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brimx153 4/1/2017 4:16pm
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bigger jump s out of some of the bowl turns imo ,will make rider use the full corner .with bigger bowls and really packed dirt in the bowl . Everyone now just rides the very bottom of the bowl because there is ruts in the bowl . So only one lined .You cant square the turn anymore

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mx 219 wrote:
I was watching a soccer game last night after my workout and im not a soccer guy, but they hold a ton of people and are...
I was watching a soccer game last night after my workout and im not a soccer guy, but they hold a ton of people and are bigger than foot all stadiums, at least a little. I thought they could make some nice sized tracks in there for the early roubds. Maybe have a1 then go to the soccer stadiums in January and February then go back to baseball and football stadiums after that.

I agree with the charlotte idea as well. If there were more rounds like Daytona I think the series would be a little safer and see more guys make it the whole sx season.

I would say go away from the qualifying except maybe lcq''s or maybe for people outside the top 10 in timed practice.
Ask Jimmy Albertson how safe he thinks it was at Daytona.
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doofy 4/1/2017 4:30pm
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Why does everyone think sx is "broken"?

Sure, most anything can be better but you come here and listen to people talk like the series is hanging by a thread
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4/2/2017 5:13pm
There is way too much stuff to fast forward through. It should not be that way.
The 450 main just does not live up to how awesome it could be.
Perhaps its not the format but the level of rider parity.
The 250's are out of sight.

How about
2- 5 minutes qualifiers each with 22 riders
3 points paying motos.
1st moto Top 22 riders 12 minutes + 1
2nd moto Top 15 riders 8 minutes +1
3rd moto Top 10 riders 4 minutes + 1

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