BOGLE CRASH: ML512 OPINION?

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Michael, I read with great interest your technical theories about Roczen's crash. What's your take on Bogle's?
More specifically, there's one point I don't get: things were obviously already going wrong when he took off and I have the feeling he was preparing himself for severely casing the reception. Then, all of a sudden at the apex of the jump, all of his body shifts forward, accentuating the nose diveeven more...
What do you think happened? Lost his balance mid-air?
Thanks!

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Phillip_Lamb 2/20/2017 9:00am
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i watched the crash,

he slowed just a bit to jump off the top, it looks like he had something keeping him from powering off the jump, hit nuetral, caught his rear brake.

his body shifting is because his bike lost momentum and he wasnt in a position to keep himself from still mving forward
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DA498 2/20/2017 10:13am
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His body going forward was definitely unusual. I noticed that right away. Bike momentum sounds probable.
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GuyB 2/20/2017 10:42am
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Listen at :18 and 7:08

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zehn 2/20/2017 12:40pm
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After listening to that whole interview, it sounds like the dirt had some inconsistencies in it in some spots. Maybe Bogle hit one of those spots when he wasn't expecting to.

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C-Rock 2/20/2017 12:51pm
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Thanks!
But what left me wondering is not the mistake before take off in itself but actually that sudden forward weight shift midway through the air...
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Coyote 2/20/2017 1:53pm
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C-Rock wrote:
Thanks!
But what left me wondering is not the mistake before take off in itself but actually that sudden forward weight shift midway through the air...
i'd bet hes spouting the corporate image (in not saying anything) in that the bike to me looked like he hit a neutral...just sayin..hope hes allright for Atlanta!!
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Phillip_Lamb 2/20/2017 4:26pm
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C-Rock wrote:
Thanks!
But what left me wondering is not the mistake before take off in itself but actually that sudden forward weight shift midway through the air...
Coyote wrote:
i'd bet hes spouting the corporate image (in not saying anything) in that the bike to me looked like he hit a neutral...just sayin..hope hes allright...
i'd bet hes spouting the corporate image (in not saying anything) in that the bike to me looked like he hit a neutral...just sayin..hope hes allright for Atlanta!!
that exactly what it looks like. When the bikes momentum slows down the riders weight is still moving at its prior velocity. Bogles movement forward was likely in anticipation of the front of the bike LIFTING instead of Dropping, and he was preparing to rotate the bike.
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C-Rock 2/20/2017 4:44pm
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Coyote wrote:
i'd bet hes spouting the corporate image (in not saying anything) in that the bike to me looked like he hit a neutral...just sayin..hope hes allright...
i'd bet hes spouting the corporate image (in not saying anything) in that the bike to me looked like he hit a neutral...just sayin..hope hes allright for Atlanta!!
Sure could be.
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xr70 2/20/2017 5:31pm
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C-Rock wrote:
Michael, I read with great interest your technical theories about Roczen's crash. What's your take on Bogle's? More specifically, there's one point I don't get: things...
Michael, I read with great interest your technical theories about Roczen's crash. What's your take on Bogle's?
More specifically, there's one point I don't get: things were obviously already going wrong when he took off and I have the feeling he was preparing himself for severely casing the reception. Then, all of a sudden at the apex of the jump, all of his body shifts forward, accentuating the nose diveeven more...
What do you think happened? Lost his balance mid-air?
Thanks!



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daemon616 2/20/2017 5:38pm
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Albertson complained about the track in his pro circuit pulpcast.
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Lightning78 2/20/2017 6:07pm
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daemon616 wrote:
Albertson complained about the track in his pro circuit pulpcast.
Oh man did he ever he lit those guys and dirt wurks on fire basically called then amateur hour and rightly so they deserve it it's absurd seeing the tracks consistently down to the concrete and the plywood. Feld makes plenty of dollars in Supercross and can't add more yards of dirt? I realize it's slightly more complicated than that but not really and They're killing Their own series watching the riders drop like flies
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zehn 2/20/2017 6:20pm
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C-Rock wrote:
Michael, I read with great interest your technical theories about Roczen's crash. What's your take on Bogle's? More specifically, there's one point I don't get: things...
Michael, I read with great interest your technical theories about Roczen's crash. What's your take on Bogle's?
More specifically, there's one point I don't get: things were obviously already going wrong when he took off and I have the feeling he was preparing himself for severely casing the reception. Then, all of a sudden at the apex of the jump, all of his body shifts forward, accentuating the nose diveeven more...
What do you think happened? Lost his balance mid-air?
Thanks!

xr70 wrote:
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Wow you're so cool
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jeffro503 2/20/2017 6:39pm
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C-Rock wrote:
Thanks!
But what left me wondering is not the mistake before take off in itself but actually that sudden forward weight shift midway through the air...
Coyote wrote:
i'd bet hes spouting the corporate image (in not saying anything) in that the bike to me looked like he hit a neutral...just sayin..hope hes allright...
i'd bet hes spouting the corporate image (in not saying anything) in that the bike to me looked like he hit a neutral...just sayin..hope hes allright for Atlanta!!
This is exactly what it looked like to me. Lost a bit of forward drive.
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C-Rock 2/20/2017 11:40pm
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xr70 wrote:
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Woah, you're so witty, your mom must be real proud of you.
What a clever little eight years old she's got there!
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