Can the AMA sak up and ditch the easy shit tracks???

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2/2/2009 3:24pm Edited Date/Time 2/2/2009 3:24pm
Tracks have been better this year, they are different and seem a bit harder to me in spots, also lap for lap SX is just as hard on riders as MX, if not harder.
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hondamx454 wrote: dude your from Australia get off are internet and tell your theory's to a kangaroo or something......

holy shit...
congrats

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2/2/2009 3:27pm
Yeah I was going to say but someone else said it, the harder the track the more advantage the better riders have against the others.
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croom mx wrote:
Yeah I was going to say but someone else said it, the harder the track the more advantage the better riders have against the others.
Why not just have drag races then. What a bunch of dumbasses. This is ELITE PRO racing, not yer backyard after school minibike derby.

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Did anyone complain when Ricky was dominating?
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Motodude wrote:
Why not just have drag races then. What a bunch of dumbasses. This is ELITE PRO racing, not yer backyard after school minibike derby.
No drag racing because of the conspiracy against Alessi and he would win all of those. Whistling
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Motodude wrote:
Why not just have drag races then. What a bunch of dumbasses. This is ELITE PRO racing, not yer backyard after school minibike derby.
Foster576 wrote:
No drag racing because of the conspiracy against Alessi and he would win all of those. Whistling
Bobby would sprout a new leg is that happened!
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Motodude wrote:
Easy tracks = Stewart dominance. The final track layout is determind by the AMA despte who 'designed' it. The tracks dished up recently are piss poor...
Easy tracks = Stewart dominance. The final track layout is determind by the AMA despte who 'designed' it. The tracks dished up recently are piss poor for such elite competition.
Foster576 wrote:
Its alot easier to blame the track than saying one rider is riding better than another on that given day. Stewarts corner speed and whoop speed...
Its alot easier to blame the track than saying one rider is riding better than another on that given day. Stewarts corner speed and whoop speed is faster than anyone out there right now. Reed is a fraction of a second behind. If the track was all straight aways and turns the outcome would be the same I think. Same if the track was nothing but whoops and turns or jumps and turns. Add them all together and he will still be that fraction faster. Like I said I like both riders so I dont want to make it seem like Im taking Stewarts side and just bagging on Reed but they all have to race the same track. The Layouts are made before the season. Each rider knows what track is coming up. Why not practice for that type of track? Reed just need to find a little bit more speed and hell be battling with Stewart the whole race and I cant wait for that to happen! I want to see both of them WFO from start to finish battling the whole way.
Are you serious? Chad is much faster in corners and whoops. Check the vids. Reed is in and out of there. And of course Bubba is going to be faster in the whoops when theres only 6 tiny bumps.
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Since the sport of supercross is based on entertainment value for the 60,000 live fans and the 2,000 TV viewers they should build the tracks to favor the spectators. Give us some action, some racing, some bravado, some parody in winners, and most importantly something to create suspense.

Every race should have the track run up into the stands. Every track should have at least one 50' uphill/downhill. Whoops every where, even on the faces of jumps. Every track should be completely different from any other. Every track should be over 1:30 laps times with 30 lap main events for both classes. Expensive hell yes. But at around $90 a head X 60,000 people I think they can make the numbers work.

What they have done is figure out the least expensive way to build a "track". They don't give two shits about the spectators or the riders. They care about profit dollars only.

They also know that the motocross community is so fucken stupid that most will keep attending the events regardless what entertainment value they provide.

There is the problem. The fans that continue to support and pay for mediocre value.

You can't complain if you continue to attend. You voted with your own money and literally told them by doing so to keep up the good work.





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dude your from Australia get off are internet and tell your theory's to a kangaroo or something......this has to be the dumbest thing i have ever...
dude your from Australia get off are internet and tell your theory's to a kangaroo or something......this has to be the dumbest thing i have ever heard. If anything the tracks obstacles are alike because they need to be built quickly, they don't have time to go out there and mess around all day trying to get new jumps to work right
Why do you Americans always tell us to do soemthing with Kangaroos. Do we sit here and tell you to go talk to your Highly Obese members of society? Works both ways pal.
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The real question, can Reed sack up and win a race?
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dude your from Australia get off are internet and tell your theory's to a kangaroo or something......this has to be the dumbest thing i have ever...
dude your from Australia get off are internet and tell your theory's to a kangaroo or something......this has to be the dumbest thing i have ever heard. If anything the tracks obstacles are alike because they need to be built quickly, they don't have time to go out there and mess around all day trying to get new jumps to work right
axel57 wrote:
Why do you Americans always tell us to do soemthing with Kangaroos. Do we sit here and tell you to go talk to your Highly Obese...
Why do you Americans always tell us to do soemthing with Kangaroos. Do we sit here and tell you to go talk to your Highly Obese members of society? Works both ways pal.
I'd trade your kangaroo's for all the fat asses we have here any day.
I'd much rather look at a kangaroo than a 300lb. woman in stretch pants.
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Homer...
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vet954 wrote:
Since the sport of supercross is based on entertainment value for the 60,000 live fans and the 2,000 TV viewers they should build the tracks to...
Since the sport of supercross is based on entertainment value for the 60,000 live fans and the 2,000 TV viewers they should build the tracks to favor the spectators. Give us some action, some racing, some bravado, some parody in winners, and most importantly something to create suspense.

Every race should have the track run up into the stands. Every track should have at least one 50' uphill/downhill. Whoops every where, even on the faces of jumps. Every track should be completely different from any other. Every track should be over 1:30 laps times with 30 lap main events for both classes. Expensive hell yes. But at around $90 a head X 60,000 people I think they can make the numbers work.

What they have done is figure out the least expensive way to build a "track". They don't give two shits about the spectators or the riders. They care about profit dollars only.

They also know that the motocross community is so fucken stupid that most will keep attending the events regardless what entertainment value they provide.

There is the problem. The fans that continue to support and pay for mediocre value.

You can't complain if you continue to attend. You voted with your own money and literally told them by doing so to keep up the good work.





Great post mate.

I totally agree. Its all become to political now. All they care about is making a large profit. I mean. I think last years Retro Night, the track was awesome. The tracks need variety. Every track this year has been pretty similar. Change it up. Add new obstacles.

I think the lack of whoops is a major problem. I mean. The whoops really seperate the men from the boys. But having a tiny set of 8 whoops in which you can jump through is just not good enough. Look at the video of Reed at his house on Transworld. Those whoops are so long. Ok maybe there not massive, but there twice the length of the whoops we have seen so far.

Add more challenging rythm sections. In which have 4 different lines or outcomes. Make the riders work for the fastest lines. Not just be able to do the same as everyone else.

They really need to change it up. Every track is the same, just the obstacles are placed differently.

Bring back some old school stuff. Bring back the tracks from 2002 and 2003.

Just sayin'
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2/2/2009 4:46pm
500guy wrote:
Paul you are off on this one, The Promoter is in charge of the track not the AMA , the AMA can make them change it...
Paul

you are off on this one, The Promoter is in charge of the track not the AMA , the AMA can make them change it if it's dangerous for the riders but not the layout of the track.

Unfortunately for Reed if the tracks get tougher Stewart's gap will be bigger and then the gap from Reed back more.
Motodude wrote:
I dont think so Jay.
There you go motodude, working without tools again!!!

James has your boy covered, just like he ALWAYS has! STFU and deal with it!
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Isn't McGrath design the A3 track? He and Chad are buddies, right? There you go, Motodude.
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PD441 wrote:
Isn't McGrath design the A3 track? He and Chad are buddies, right? There you go, Motodude.
Fair call. But that being said, It's just like saying the AMA are buddies with James. There looking after there million dollar baby. Right? There you go, PD441.
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500guy wrote:
Paul you are off on this one, The Promoter is in charge of the track not the AMA , the AMA can make them change it...
Paul

you are off on this one, The Promoter is in charge of the track not the AMA , the AMA can make them change it if it's dangerous for the riders but not the layout of the track.

Unfortunately for Reed if the tracks get tougher Stewart's gap will be bigger and then the gap from Reed back more.
Motodude wrote:
I dont think so Jay.
ty159 wrote:
There you go motodude, working without tools again!!!

James has your boy covered, just like he ALWAYS has! STFU and deal with it!
What do you mean, I work with you tools all the time! HOL
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Motodude wrote:
These backyard BMX tracks that suit Stewarts style to the ground suk. Its painfully obvious, so obvious even the blind freddy's of Vital can see how...
These backyard BMX tracks that suit Stewarts style to the ground suk. Its painfully obvious, so obvious even the blind freddy's of Vital can see how boring the tracks are. When the only challenge for Bubba is raw speed, he dominates, when it gets technically challenging he wads up.

We get your point about the need for an American Hero dominating, but this is seriously rediculous now, everyone can see it.


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bring back A1 for every round and james is hosed....Wink
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Excuse after excuse... That's all I see. When Reed beats James, then talk, until then, deal with the fact that James has won 4 out of 5 races and Reed hasn't won one yet!

As far as saying James wads it up on the more technical tracks, James has only gone down once this season,(in the race)and that's because Reed ran into James! James may have missed a shift but Reed ran into the back of James. Pure and simple!

Facts are facts. James 4 for 5, Reed is 0 for 5.

He better enjoy the points lead, he'll only have it for 2 more races, then they'll be tied, if they keep finishing like they have. James will then technically have the lead based on number of wins. It must suck not being able to admit Reed isn't quite as good as James!
2/2/2009 5:08pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:17pm
Seriously, Reed has finally stopped whining this year, you think his fans might follow suit.


And Axel, sorry but you've got enough fatties of your own. Enough to pass the US as the worlds most obese country. http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2008/06/20/Australia_now_fattest_countr…

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vet954 wrote:
Since the sport of supercross is based on entertainment value for the 60,000 live fans and the 2,000 TV viewers they should build the tracks to...
Since the sport of supercross is based on entertainment value for the 60,000 live fans and the 2,000 TV viewers they should build the tracks to favor the spectators. Give us some action, some racing, some bravado, some parody in winners, and most importantly something to create suspense.

Every race should have the track run up into the stands. Every track should have at least one 50' uphill/downhill. Whoops every where, even on the faces of jumps. Every track should be completely different from any other. Every track should be over 1:30 laps times with 30 lap main events for both classes. Expensive hell yes. But at around $90 a head X 60,000 people I think they can make the numbers work.

What they have done is figure out the least expensive way to build a "track". They don't give two shits about the spectators or the riders. They care about profit dollars only.

They also know that the motocross community is so fucken stupid that most will keep attending the events regardless what entertainment value they provide.

There is the problem. The fans that continue to support and pay for mediocre value.

You can't complain if you continue to attend. You voted with your own money and literally told them by doing so to keep up the good work.





"some parody in winners"

Thats funny, think you meant "parity".
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Seriously, Reed has finally stopped whining this year, you think his fans might follow suit. And Axel, sorry but you've got enough fatties of your own...
Seriously, Reed has finally stopped whining this year, you think his fans might follow suit.


And Axel, sorry but you've got enough fatties of your own. Enough to pass the US as the worlds most obese country. http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2008/06/20/Australia_now_fattest_countr…

On average australians are the fattest people on the planet. while there are more fat people in the united states, there are also more people in the united states who cannot afford to buy enough food to eat, so therefore more underweight people. the percentage of people who cannot afford enough to eat in australia is lower and therefore the average australian is more overweight than the average american.
2/2/2009 5:23pm
So if Reed is faster in the woops and corners why is he loosing to James. Doesn't add up. James is just faster face it. If the track was only woops and corners James would still win.
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i like the fast tracks and the slow tracks!
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So if Reed is faster in the woops and corners why is he loosing to James. Doesn't add up. James is just faster face it. If...
So if Reed is faster in the woops and corners why is he loosing to James. Doesn't add up. James is just faster face it. If the track was only woops and corners James would still win.
Hey nut licker, buy a clue or call a friend.
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Seriously, Reed has finally stopped whining this year, you think his fans might follow suit. And Axel, sorry but you've got enough fatties of your own...
Seriously, Reed has finally stopped whining this year, you think his fans might follow suit.


And Axel, sorry but you've got enough fatties of your own. Enough to pass the US as the worlds most obese country. http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2008/06/20/Australia_now_fattest_countr…

very true..... so far anyway
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vet954 wrote:
Since the sport of supercross is based on entertainment value for the 60,000 live fans and the 2,000 TV viewers they should build the tracks to...
Since the sport of supercross is based on entertainment value for the 60,000 live fans and the 2,000 TV viewers they should build the tracks to favor the spectators. Give us some action, some racing, some bravado, some parody in winners, and most importantly something to create suspense.

Every race should have the track run up into the stands. Every track should have at least one 50' uphill/downhill. Whoops every where, even on the faces of jumps. Every track should be completely different from any other. Every track should be over 1:30 laps times with 30 lap main events for both classes. Expensive hell yes. But at around $90 a head X 60,000 people I think they can make the numbers work.

What they have done is figure out the least expensive way to build a "track". They don't give two shits about the spectators or the riders. They care about profit dollars only.

They also know that the motocross community is so fucken stupid that most will keep attending the events regardless what entertainment value they provide.

There is the problem. The fans that continue to support and pay for mediocre value.

You can't complain if you continue to attend. You voted with your own money and literally told them by doing so to keep up the good work.





ocscottie wrote:
"some parody in winners"

Thats funny, think you meant "parity".
Could be, but when I'm stressed, drunk and getting a blow job I have a hard time spelling and typing at the same time. Sorry dude.

I have a feeling I will be getting a long deserved time out pretty soon from Dude. Hey at least he should be honored that my vital time is never interupted by outside influences.

good night

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Seriously, Reed has finally stopped whining this year, you think his fans might follow suit. And Axel, sorry but you've got enough fatties of your own...
Seriously, Reed has finally stopped whining this year, you think his fans might follow suit.


And Axel, sorry but you've got enough fatties of your own. Enough to pass the US as the worlds most obese country. http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2008/06/20/Australia_now_fattest_countr…

R-acer wrote:
very true..... so far anyway
Um. Weren't you the first one to start making excuses for James after A1? Sayig its the bike, and oh he doesnt look himself, blah blah. You made excuses when he lost, so deal with it.
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Seriously, Reed has finally stopped whining this year, you think his fans might follow suit. And Axel, sorry but you've got enough fatties of your own...
Seriously, Reed has finally stopped whining this year, you think his fans might follow suit.


And Axel, sorry but you've got enough fatties of your own. Enough to pass the US as the worlds most obese country. http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2008/06/20/Australia_now_fattest_countr…

R-acer wrote:
very true..... so far anyway
axel57 wrote:
Um. Weren't you the first one to start making excuses for James after A1? Sayig its the bike, and oh he doesnt look himself, blah blah...
Um. Weren't you the first one to start making excuses for James after A1? Sayig its the bike, and oh he doesnt look himself, blah blah. You made excuses when he lost, so deal with it.
R-assgaper is busy right now...

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