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1/24/2012 11:00pm
"Winds of Change".......?
I beg to differ.
I'm not trying to "ruffle" any feathers, but coming to a
race track soon could be some "new" rules.
I like change. I've said it many a time, that change is good.
However, change is good only when you don't know what
your getting, so you give it the "old school try".
In my opinion, here you clearly do.......
The powers that be, on the pro side & amateur side feel this is
a just direction. They're wrong I'm afraid. I can't believe they haven't
realized it as yet as they have tried it in the amateur ranks recently.
They say, "We believe a 250 is a 250, period". Wow, brilliant!
But so wrong.......!
To quote a young & fast Malcolm Stewart, brother of James,
"On the 2stk., it's faster than a 250F right out of the box.
They have something like 7 more horsepower than a 250F"....
So I ask you, where's the logic here?
In the amateur's the 2stks. left the 4stks.
It's not an "even Steven deal", it's not.
What it is, is a huge mistake.
Again, I can't believe they don't see it.
Power to weight, everything's wrong with it.
Experience tells me so.
250F's belong with themselves, period!
250 2stks. belong with themselves, period!
Mixing the 2 will certainly turn into a joke.
The better guys on 2stks. will reign supreme.
I hope they reconsider.
Dave O.
I beg to differ.
I'm not trying to "ruffle" any feathers, but coming to a
race track soon could be some "new" rules.
I like change. I've said it many a time, that change is good.
However, change is good only when you don't know what
your getting, so you give it the "old school try".
In my opinion, here you clearly do.......
The powers that be, on the pro side & amateur side feel this is
a just direction. They're wrong I'm afraid. I can't believe they haven't
realized it as yet as they have tried it in the amateur ranks recently.
They say, "We believe a 250 is a 250, period". Wow, brilliant!
But so wrong.......!
To quote a young & fast Malcolm Stewart, brother of James,
"On the 2stk., it's faster than a 250F right out of the box.
They have something like 7 more horsepower than a 250F"....
So I ask you, where's the logic here?
In the amateur's the 2stks. left the 4stks.
It's not an "even Steven deal", it's not.
What it is, is a huge mistake.
Again, I can't believe they don't see it.
Power to weight, everything's wrong with it.
Experience tells me so.
250F's belong with themselves, period!
250 2stks. belong with themselves, period!
Mixing the 2 will certainly turn into a joke.
The better guys on 2stks. will reign supreme.
I hope they reconsider.
Dave O.
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Even if a 2stk makes 7 more HP, the 4stk is easier to ride and has better tractability.
I agree with the 250 to 250 rule.
The present rule was written for when 4 strokes were heavy and slow, with little technology behind them.
Now, they're lighter, faster, more powerful and entering into a fuel injection phase.
In a short period of time, 4 strokes have come a long way and we all know that they've only just begun.
In another short period of time, they'll be even more even, if not the 4 stroke surpassing the 2 stroke in HP to weight
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And no, I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just curious.
"i thought it was "winds of change"?"
My bad................
Now we have to make the rules FAIR for the 4 strokes?? Give me a break!
"Now we have to make the rules FAIR for the 4 strokes?? Give me a break!"
That's not what I'm after at all.
At times or events, or really depending on the situation,
sure you can "mix 'em up" some. Say like a "WORCS"
race for example. But at top amateur & pro races, unless
it's an "Open class" I don't think so.
Bike for bike, I know the 2stks. will rein supreme.
However, if that's what it takes to get the 2stks. back
then I'll change my thinking.
Dave O.
Pit Row
and you know what i look like...wanna beat me up? go ahead....i go to a lot of races.
no bottle you dork...i just got home from work.
But then again you know me too, drop the gloves when you see me and I'll be glad to go.
nice touch with the "homo" comment.....graduate soon?
Lets just make the pocket in billiards bigger...
Lets make a tennis-ball bigger for morons,, or lengthen the racket ...
Lets enlarge the holes on golf courses to "make it easier".....
Lets downsize the NBA basketball but not the hoop......
Lets get pit-bikes and race them so moto is fun again...... Eh,,, wait that was happening... (notice how minibikes were never popular when we all could race or ride two-stroke bikes like the 125)
Fuck easy...... you want easy? For what? The guy next to you on the line will buy 'easier'..
If this sport was a woman,,, it'd buy higher high-heels every chance it got,,, like a dumb fuck'n stripper who thinks 'we care' about 'shoes'....
Four-stroke bikes are a nice option,,, and at double the displacement - great for getting 'a good start'....... now that they make up the whole gate,,, they are a liability to All....
(well, not me.... I ride a two-stroke)
This sport needs controls other then those imposed by four Asian companies!
If Nascar was as poorly run as our sport... Every team would be fighting over the latest E.FI. or ABS systems.... (Carburetors are MANDATORY of participants in Nascar,,,not by accident)
With our sport,, E.F.I and the resulting control will lead to even more expenses and watchdog antics looking for traction control etc....... I'm tired,,,, good night...
Regards, Patrick
PS.... Two-stroke bikes are still an option (barely) Go buy one... you can even buy used... the resulting loss of a four-stroke sale will send the same message... Any of you sheep that have a "support the troops" stickers on your Toyota truck... kindly remove it....... you can "hump the American dream" all you want,,,, but please do it in an American car.
The word "easier",,,, nice. Who cares! Fourteen minute main events..... obnoxious noise and eighty-grand two bike team costs.....Overheating four-stroke bikes..(is that why the love affair with them,,, you sell coolant to address the issue?) The four-stroke motocross engine is not what this sport needs going forward... it is what the manufacturers think they need (save for KTM), Good night.
Read comprehension an issue?
Guys Please chill.............
this is just a harmless "opinionated" discussion
of issues I/we don't/can't control anyway.
Shoot, almost a waste of perfectly good time.
"Peace".............
Dave O.
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