National Vintage Series

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Any vintage racers out there?

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Yes, I raced SVRG, ARX and CALVMX for a few years. I quit vintage racing because I felt I was too young and didn't fit the club demographic.

So now these AHRMA spin off clubs are forming a national series like AHRMA....interesting.
I hope it works and and generates a stronger turn out.







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I think this stuff is awesome. I didn't "get it" when i was a teenager but a few years from 30 and i think this stuff is great.
When the bike age allows a 93-96 cr 250 I WILL be Restoring one and racing some of these.
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I think this stuff is awesome. I didn't "get it" when i was a teenager but a few years from 30 and i think this stuff...
I think this stuff is awesome. I didn't "get it" when i was a teenager but a few years from 30 and i think this stuff is great.
When the bike age allows a 93-96 cr 250 I WILL be Restoring one and racing some of these.
Go ahead and start building that baby. Many of the regional vintage clubs are including those bikes already. Decade classes or "disco" (disc brakes??) classes are gaining popularity. I know where you could get a sweet and very special 92 CR250. A good cleanup would do wonders for it.

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one thing that makes Vintage fun is that the tracks are much more old school which tends to make them a lot more fun to ride and a lot safer.

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-eagle- 1/23/2009 6:58am
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That Jeremy Beuhl replica is sexy. If thats yours good work. Or is that the ACTUAL PC bike?
I've got some pics somewhere of him racing D11 with Eickel, Yezek, SLother, Collier,Rand,Steel, etc. 94 ish.

The vintage racing sounds great too. Old school bikes & tracks and just for kicks vet riders.
Mammoth East would be an AMAZING place for a vintage national. I'd love to build a stock looking 93 and run the 15 on it.
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The older CR's were great bikes once you get the suspension revalved......I still have my old spec book! Badder Mannah rode one of my set ups at the Buds 250GP.


I have gotten several calls about having Colored radiator hoses made for the liquid vintage bikes and am seriously considering it.....only need a spare set and 3 sets ordered to get them made.

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I'm planning on being at a few of the events with Billy Liles. Should be a good series w/ some tuff competition and sick bikes.
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They screwed it up on their site, though. The March 2/3 round is in Lake City. Florida, not St. Pete as advertised. Follow the www.flvmx.com link to verify.
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We have 2 clubs here in AZ neither seem to agree on anything, How will this fair to AHRMA.

Can the Vintage scene handle yet another club ?
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The Vintage scene is in desperate need of replacing AHRMA. Seriously.
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I dont have a vintage bike any more.....knew I should have kept them instead of selling them.

Would a late 80's- early 90's bike be legal in a classes?
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Bret 1/23/2009 1:56pm
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This series is a bringing together of separate clubs instead of a whole new club. Each club still runs their own program as they always have. Different clubs have different classes based on many factors. The USVMX series brings all the clubs together by having a series that gives points to the common classes of all the clubs.
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I did my first vintage race last summer on my 1980 YZ125 and had a blast. I plan on hitting a couple of them this summer in the Midwest.
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BTW, you don't need a vintage bike to race the series. Most races have MODERN support classes.

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Tbteam wrote:
They screwed it up on their site, though. The March 2/3 round is in Lake City. Florida, not St. Pete as advertised. Follow the www.flvmx.com link...
They screwed it up on their site, though. The March 2/3 round is in Lake City. Florida, not St. Pete as advertised. Follow the www.flvmx.com link to verify.
And... I was wrong. Our club (FLVMX) is having the "U.S. Vintage Grand Prix" on March 2/3 in Lake City, FL. The USVMX race is a not affiliated with the USVGP race. It is a couple weeks later in St. Pete.

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Bret 1/26/2009 12:18pm
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trick121 wrote:
BTW, you don't need a vintage bike to race the series. Most races have MODERN support classes.

Many of the local clubs do indeed have modern bike classes. The USVMX points chase is for air cooled, non-linkage, drum brake bikes.
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So non linkage means 2 shocks except for Yam up to 79?

How are the parts availability for Huskys? I would not mind riding a 250 or 390 Hunkavarnish again.
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lumpy790 wrote:
So non linkage means 2 shocks except for Yam up to 79? How are the parts availability for Huskys? I would not mind riding a 250...
So non linkage means 2 shocks except for Yam up to 79?

How are the parts availability for Huskys? I would not mind riding a 250 or 390 Hunkavarnish again.
Have friend with a good number of vintage Huskys....

No part probs so far FYI. Also has Mike Larsons old 390; think '79 or '80...likes a lot.

Monoshocks don't have linkage; a one piece swingarm/one shock. Prob a different leverage ratio, but a higher center of gravity too.
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Bret 1/26/2009 3:02pm
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In nearly all cases, non linkage means twin shock. The exceptions are the Yamaha monoshocks up to and including 1981. As long as one end of the shock(s) bolts directly to the frame and the other directly to the swingarm, it is considered non-linkage. Conversions of linkage bikes to non linkage bikes is not allowed as far as I know. You might think somebody would have to be crazy to convert a single shock bike to a twin shocker but it happens. http://www.dutchtwinshock.nl/english.html for example.
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lumpy790 wrote:
So non linkage means 2 shocks except for Yam up to 79? How are the parts availability for Huskys? I would not mind riding a 250...
So non linkage means 2 shocks except for Yam up to 79?

How are the parts availability for Huskys? I would not mind riding a 250 or 390 Hunkavarnish again.
YZ's were non linkage up to 1981. My 81 250 here.

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andymoto 1/26/2009 3:13pm
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Nice mr. newmann.....reeel nice.
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lumpy790 1/26/2009 5:04pm
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I could not remember when Yam went to the threw the tripple clamp water cooling.


I remember my 78 had soft cases.....any other years or bikes to avoid?


Wish I still had had my full blown RPM 81 KX250.

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trick121 1/26/2009 6:12pm
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trick121 wrote:
BTW, you don't need a vintage bike to race the series. Most races have MODERN support classes.

Bret wrote:
Many of the local clubs do indeed have modern bike classes. The USVMX points chase is for air cooled, non-linkage, drum brake bikes.

Well, that sucks because my

1983 Yz 125...not eligible
1985 Rm 125...not eligible
1983 Cr 480...not eligible
1983 KTM 250...not eligible
1983 KX 125...not eligible
1969 Hodaka ace 100...ELIGIBLE but would never shame my self by showing up with it

Again its difficult to understand these vintage promoters.

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lumpy790 wrote:
I could not remember when Yam went to the threw the tripple clamp water cooling. I remember my 78 had soft cases.....any other years or bikes...
I could not remember when Yam went to the threw the tripple clamp water cooling.


I remember my 78 had soft cases.....any other years or bikes to avoid?


Wish I still had had my full blown RPM 81 KX250.

1981 and 1982 YZ125 had the throug the triple clamp cooling. I think the 1982 YZ250 had it as well. Oh, and my 1977 OW27 has it also!!!


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Bret 1/27/2009 10:20am
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trick121 wrote:
BTW, you don't need a vintage bike to race the series. Most races have MODERN support classes.

Bret wrote:
Many of the local clubs do indeed have modern bike classes. The USVMX points chase is for air cooled, non-linkage, drum brake bikes.
trick121 wrote:
Well, that sucks because my 1983 Yz 125...not eligible 1985 Rm 125...not eligible 1983 Cr 480...not eligible 1983 KTM 250...not eligible 1983 KX 125...not eligible 1969...

Well, that sucks because my

1983 Yz 125...not eligible
1985 Rm 125...not eligible
1983 Cr 480...not eligible
1983 KTM 250...not eligible
1983 KX 125...not eligible
1969 Hodaka ace 100...ELIGIBLE but would never shame my self by showing up with it

Again its difficult to understand these vintage promoters.

Since this is the first year of the USVMX series, it was important to keep it simple. The classes this year represent the common classes to all clubs. I have a 1983 YZ490 that I have raced for the last three years and it is not eligible. I was disappointed because I am comfortable on the bike but I am glad because now I have become 100% motivated to finally finish my '81 Maico 490.

The perception of what a vintage bike should be is on a sliding scale. Vintage to a guy in his forties is not the same as vintage to a guy in his sixties. As time marches on, newer bikes will be considered vintage and they will be included in the programs. There will come a day when a 2009 KX450F will be considered a vintage bike and kids will wonder how the heck we were able to ride them!

Short answer: Be patient and you will be able to run the national series with your bikes from the eighties.

Bret

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