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Thought this thread was gonna be about Brian Deegan and Larry Linkogle.... The video No Respect. I'm out.
Thought this thread was gonna be about Brian Deegan and Larry Linkogle.... The video No Respect. I'm out.


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Deplorables :laugh: He's dealt with the garbage his entire career, and now days there's a place for their negativity, the Internet. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/10/04/154563/s1200_IMG_1775.jpg[/img]
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He's dealt with the garbage his entire career, and now days there's a place for their negativity, the Internet.


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That looks like a picture of some very fashion-forward people
That pic actually pisses me off because you damn well know the mentality of those people in that pic. I have personally witnessed first hand many different crowds hating on different riders for different reasons. At washougal in 2004 a big group of drunk idiots trying to hit RC with rocks and sticks in the back section , screaming at him , foaming at the mouth with hatred......they freakin' hated the guy. in 90' - 91' when JMB broke his arm in the whoops , you should of heard the cheers and so forth from some people.

Point is....people hate on certain riders , and it aint always about skin color. I personally have never seen anyone boo James myself. He seems to be pretty well liked up here.

The loss of respect towards James these past couple years stems from some of the stuff he's done ( willingly and unwillingly ). He deserves all the respect in world for his past accomplishments , but over the past two years over all that's happened , it isn't just some fans that have lost some respect for the guy...it's people in the pits on certain teams , and other associations that have been left with the feeling of being a little " He burnt this bridge " type feeling. There are guys on this board that are in the pits every single weekend , and can attest to what I'm saying.

There comes a time when a rider needs to quit resting on his past accomplishments and start putting the work back in and earn his pay check. I think if James actually puts the effort in , we can still see a few really good races out of him. But then again , Maybe Jeff Ward was correct , and there is to much damage upstairs to move forward. We'll see.
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gsxrcr28 wrote:
Deplorables :laugh: He's dealt with the garbage his entire career, and now days there's a place for their negativity, the Internet. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/10/04/154563/s1200_IMG_1775.jpg[/img]
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He's dealt with the garbage his entire career, and now days there's a place for their negativity, the Internet.


hvaughn88 wrote:
That looks like a picture of some very fashion-forward people
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That pic actually pisses me off because you damn well know the mentality of those people in that pic. I have personally witnessed first hand many...
That pic actually pisses me off because you damn well know the mentality of those people in that pic. I have personally witnessed first hand many different crowds hating on different riders for different reasons. At washougal in 2004 a big group of drunk idiots trying to hit RC with rocks and sticks in the back section , screaming at him , foaming at the mouth with hatred......they freakin' hated the guy. in 90' - 91' when JMB broke his arm in the whoops , you should of heard the cheers and so forth from some people.

Point is....people hate on certain riders , and it aint always about skin color. I personally have never seen anyone boo James myself. He seems to be pretty well liked up here.

The loss of respect towards James these past couple years stems from some of the stuff he's done ( willingly and unwillingly ). He deserves all the respect in world for his past accomplishments , but over the past two years over all that's happened , it isn't just some fans that have lost some respect for the guy...it's people in the pits on certain teams , and other associations that have been left with the feeling of being a little " He burnt this bridge " type feeling. There are guys on this board that are in the pits every single weekend , and can attest to what I'm saying.

There comes a time when a rider needs to quit resting on his past accomplishments and start putting the work back in and earn his pay check. I think if James actually puts the effort in , we can still see a few really good races out of him. But then again , Maybe Jeff Ward was correct , and there is to much damage upstairs to move forward. We'll see.
Those are some people that are more than likely divorced from their cousins. What a bunch of dipshits. They need an ass beating.
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jeffro503 10/4/2016 9:32am
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hvaughn88 wrote:
That looks like a picture of some very fashion-forward people
jeffro503 wrote:
That pic actually pisses me off because you damn well know the mentality of those people in that pic. I have personally witnessed first hand many...
That pic actually pisses me off because you damn well know the mentality of those people in that pic. I have personally witnessed first hand many different crowds hating on different riders for different reasons. At washougal in 2004 a big group of drunk idiots trying to hit RC with rocks and sticks in the back section , screaming at him , foaming at the mouth with hatred......they freakin' hated the guy. in 90' - 91' when JMB broke his arm in the whoops , you should of heard the cheers and so forth from some people.

Point is....people hate on certain riders , and it aint always about skin color. I personally have never seen anyone boo James myself. He seems to be pretty well liked up here.

The loss of respect towards James these past couple years stems from some of the stuff he's done ( willingly and unwillingly ). He deserves all the respect in world for his past accomplishments , but over the past two years over all that's happened , it isn't just some fans that have lost some respect for the guy...it's people in the pits on certain teams , and other associations that have been left with the feeling of being a little " He burnt this bridge " type feeling. There are guys on this board that are in the pits every single weekend , and can attest to what I'm saying.

There comes a time when a rider needs to quit resting on his past accomplishments and start putting the work back in and earn his pay check. I think if James actually puts the effort in , we can still see a few really good races out of him. But then again , Maybe Jeff Ward was correct , and there is to much damage upstairs to move forward. We'll see.
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Those are some people that are more than likely divorced from their cousins. What a bunch of dipshits. They need an ass beating.
The drunk idiots that were throwing things at RC just about had that happen. I don't remember if that was the year or not...but James was being cheered for more because people wanted to see someone beat RC. They didn't care what his skin color was. With that being said....when a rider gets shit from people it isn't always about skin color. People who try and use that as an excuse in every situation are either blind or stupid.

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mx836 10/4/2016 9:33am
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Could not have said it better myself OP. Any true fan of the sport doesn't disrespect a legend like JS7. Fanboys are the only ones that disrespect the best athletes in our sport.
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The ego maniacs only want attention when it's good,. When it's bad ,it's none of our business.
Just like every other pro racer? You bash Stewart every chance you get. Pathetic.
GeorgiePorgie 10/4/2016 9:43am
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Many drunk fans flip off many-a-riders. James ain't the only catching it.
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mxb2 10/4/2016 9:47am
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mxb2 wrote:
The ego maniacs only want attention when it's good,. When it's bad ,it's none of our business.
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Just like every other pro racer? You bash Stewart every chance you get. Pathetic.
And you slobber on him every chance you get, pathetic.
TheOriginalPancakee 10/4/2016 9:59am
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But I don't get why we bash stew. Look what he's done for our sport!!! Who cares if his prime has been over why do we need to bash him?? Does his performance make you that mad? Jesus
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Well at the end of the day you guys are keyboarding about stew and he's sitting at home with his wife and kid in a beautiful ass house Smile
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jeffro503 wrote:
That pic actually pisses me off because you damn well know the mentality of those people in that pic. I have personally witnessed first hand many...
That pic actually pisses me off because you damn well know the mentality of those people in that pic. I have personally witnessed first hand many different crowds hating on different riders for different reasons. At washougal in 2004 a big group of drunk idiots trying to hit RC with rocks and sticks in the back section , screaming at him , foaming at the mouth with hatred......they freakin' hated the guy. in 90' - 91' when JMB broke his arm in the whoops , you should of heard the cheers and so forth from some people.

Point is....people hate on certain riders , and it aint always about skin color. I personally have never seen anyone boo James myself. He seems to be pretty well liked up here.

The loss of respect towards James these past couple years stems from some of the stuff he's done ( willingly and unwillingly ). He deserves all the respect in world for his past accomplishments , but over the past two years over all that's happened , it isn't just some fans that have lost some respect for the guy...it's people in the pits on certain teams , and other associations that have been left with the feeling of being a little " He burnt this bridge " type feeling. There are guys on this board that are in the pits every single weekend , and can attest to what I'm saying.

There comes a time when a rider needs to quit resting on his past accomplishments and start putting the work back in and earn his pay check. I think if James actually puts the effort in , we can still see a few really good races out of him. But then again , Maybe Jeff Ward was correct , and there is to much damage upstairs to move forward. We'll see.
hvaughn88 wrote:
Those are some people that are more than likely divorced from their cousins. What a bunch of dipshits. They need an ass beating.
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The drunk idiots that were throwing things at RC just about had that happen. I don't remember if that was the year or not...but James was...
The drunk idiots that were throwing things at RC just about had that happen. I don't remember if that was the year or not...but James was being cheered for more because people wanted to see someone beat RC. They didn't care what his skin color was. With that being said....when a rider gets shit from people it isn't always about skin color. People who try and use that as an excuse in every situation are either blind or stupid.
It isn't always about skin color but when it is it's an entirely different animal.
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jeffro503 10/4/2016 10:12am
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It isn't always about skin color but when it is it's an entirely different animal.
And that can go both ways....correct?
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The drunk idiots that were throwing things at RC just about had that happen. I don't remember if that was the year or not...but James was...
The drunk idiots that were throwing things at RC just about had that happen. I don't remember if that was the year or not...but James was being cheered for more because people wanted to see someone beat RC. They didn't care what his skin color was. With that being said....when a rider gets shit from people it isn't always about skin color. People who try and use that as an excuse in every situation are either blind or stupid.
Stewart was not in RC class that year. He was racing lites. 2005 he did not race Washougal. In 2006 he beat Ricky there.
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FastGzus 10/4/2016 10:16am
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It isn't always about skin color but when it is it's an entirely different animal.
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And that can go both ways....correct?
Sure it can..

It's just not happening at the races which are 98%white
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I remember the days (not that long ago) if you weren't a James worshiper, then you were called a racist. lol
Heck, I used to get into it all the times with his rabid fans and I was called all sorts of things. Now, I wish he'd come out and smoke the competition to shut some of these idiots up. You'd see the masses go from hating, to loving him again...if he puts together a few wins.
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And you slobber on him every chance you get, pathetic.
Actually, no I don't at all.
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James only has as many haters because he has the most fans and is the most well known star of the sport. As with all success, jealousy soon follows. You can't have one without the other. I know that if I was James I wouldn't loose a min of sleep over what some never was troll on the Internet thinks.
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And you slobber on him every chance you get, pathetic.
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Actually, no I don't at all.
Stop slobbering on bubbles! Geez

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I lost a hell of alot of Respect for him , when he turned up to A1 unfit and not ready . not like he did nt have the time to do it .
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It's these threads, and people like mxb2, that I don't contribute or visit Vital very much anymore. Makes me sad, I visit this site about once every couple weeks now, and these same posts are here every time.
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mxb2 10/4/2016 11:35am
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It's these threads, and people like mxb2, that I don't contribute or visit Vital very much anymore. Makes me sad, I visit this site about once...
It's these threads, and people like mxb2, that I don't contribute or visit Vital very much anymore. Makes me sad, I visit this site about once every couple weeks now, and these same posts are here every time.
Guess you don't like facts. Simple solution dont read or respond, .grow a set. Thin or thick skin is required on social media.
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Krazyk2774 wrote:
James only has as many haters because he has the most fans and is the most well known star of the sport. As with all success...
James only has as many haters because he has the most fans and is the most well known star of the sport. As with all success, jealousy soon follows. You can't have one without the other. I know that if I was James I wouldn't loose a min of sleep over what some never was troll on the Internet thinks.
Pretty much this ^^^

And it's always the same few people, obviously they get something out of it. Also, lack of respect is rampant now days, I blame poor parenting.
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Where I grew up you learned respect the old fashioned way. If you ran your mouth you very likely would have someone shut it for you with a fist. So you learned not to talk shit for no reason and have respect for others. Sadly those days are gone! and with the lack of consequences, so is the basic respect for others.
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It's these threads, and people like mxb2, that I don't contribute or visit Vital very much anymore. Makes me sad, I visit this site about once...
It's these threads, and people like mxb2, that I don't contribute or visit Vital very much anymore. Makes me sad, I visit this site about once every couple weeks now, and these same posts are here every time.
Amen brother. I have a very difficult time understanding why someone could possibly dislike another they've never met so much that they constantly need to talk shit. Same goes for the fellas from overseas that hate anything and everything to do with the USA. You make a comment because you can't stand how absolutely irrational they are and they just come back with another stupid, pointless, comment. It really is getting old.
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gsxrcr28 10/4/2016 12:11pm
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Where I grew up you learned respect the old fashioned way. If you ran your mouth you very likely would have someone shut it for you...
Where I grew up you learned respect the old fashioned way. If you ran your mouth you very likely would have someone shut it for you with a fist. So you learned not to talk shit for no reason and have respect for others. Sadly those days are gone! and with the lack of consequences, so is the basic respect for others.
Same here bro! Where I grew up you didn't dare talk shit about someone without having to answer for it.

The internet has created a safe haven everyone.
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kawasa84 wrote:
It's these threads, and people like mxb2, that I don't contribute or visit Vital very much anymore. Makes me sad, I visit this site about once...
It's these threads, and people like mxb2, that I don't contribute or visit Vital very much anymore. Makes me sad, I visit this site about once every couple weeks now, and these same posts are here every time.
Ditto... Its sad.
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I lost a hell of alot of Respect for him , when he turned up to A1 unfit and not ready . not like he did...
I lost a hell of alot of Respect for him , when he turned up to A1 unfit and not ready . not like he did nt have the time to do it .
So what was the reason for being unfit and not ready?
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kawasa84 wrote:
It's these threads, and people like mxb2, that I don't contribute or visit Vital very much anymore. Makes me sad, I visit this site about once...
It's these threads, and people like mxb2, that I don't contribute or visit Vital very much anymore. Makes me sad, I visit this site about once every couple weeks now, and these same posts are here every time.
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Amen brother. I have a very difficult time understanding why someone could possibly dislike another they've never met so much that they constantly need to talk...
Amen brother. I have a very difficult time understanding why someone could possibly dislike another they've never met so much that they constantly need to talk shit. Same goes for the fellas from overseas that hate anything and everything to do with the USA. You make a comment because you can't stand how absolutely irrational they are and they just come back with another stupid, pointless, comment. It really is getting old.
Disliking James Stewart the current rider is very different then disliking James Stewart the person.

This is very similar to Peyton Manning's last year in Denver. He played extremely awful. Fans who were once die hard Manning fans were calling for him to be replaced. And he was replaced temporarily. It's not because they disliked Manning the person. He is a great guy. But he was playing terrible. Yes, he is one of the greatest to play the game but that does not matter. It's about what have you done for me lately. That's the way life is. That does not mean those who wanted Manning replaced didn't like him as a person or did not appreciate his past accomplishments. Yes, he won a Superbowl, but he wanted to play another year and Elway said no way. He either had to retire or he was going to be cut. He already had a long career and chose the smart thing and that was to retire.

This is pretty much the same situation.

James the person, the father, the husband, is probably an awesome guy and a lot of fun to hang out with. He has amazing accomplishments. But James Stewart the rider currently is an excuse maker, does not show up ready and fit, gets paid to sit at home, interferes with racers when getting lapped, and on and on.

That's not the James Stewart we all have known over the years. He use to be a fierce competitor that could do anything on a bike. Those days are gone and there is nothing wrong with that. Father Time is undefeated after all.

I get tired of people saying that you can't criticize someone. It's not disrespectful when just stating the facts. Obviously some folks take it to another level but for the most part I just see people who are criticizing where it is warranted.

Stewart was amazing on a motorcycle. Key word here, "was". He is no longer that same rider even though he continues to be hyped like one, paid like one, media coverage like one, and still has a rabid amount of people who defend him. That just goes to show that he was a real force in the sport and one of the best to swing a leg over a motorcycle. I respect that and believe a lot of other people do as well. Even the ones who are critical of him.

Case closed.
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James has had no less than four big crashes this year and the subsequent injuries that go along with them. Two of which were not his fault for the most part. There is transparency with every racer in the sport and James is no exception. A little criticism I can understand, but that is not the case. And if people talk shit constantly because James isn't meeting their expectations, then they need to reassess their expectations. You make some good points, but your football analogy is irrelevant in my opinion, because football is a team sport and quarterback is the most important position. Whether James lines up or not does not really even matter at this point.
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James has had no less than four big crashes this year and the subsequent injuries that go along with them. Two of which were not his...
James has had no less than four big crashes this year and the subsequent injuries that go along with them. Two of which were not his fault for the most part. There is transparency with every racer in the sport and James is no exception. A little criticism I can understand, but that is not the case. And if people talk shit constantly because James isn't meeting their expectations, then they need to reassess their expectations. You make some good points, but your football analogy is irrelevant in my opinion, because football is a team sport and quarterback is the most important position. Whether James lines up or not does not really even matter at this point.
I just used that as an example to show how a great person (Manning) can get a lot of criticism for his current poor play, even though he is one of the best ever. I agree with you that the comparison is not the same, but only because Manning never stopped putting in the hard work. He just got old and his body failed him. But he never stopped preparing. That's pretty much the opposite of James. He was not fit for A1 even though he had time off to get ready. James said he would be ready. He wasn't. So he has to deal with the criticisms. That's life. He's a big boy. He knows the rules.

This is all water under the bridge at this point. It is what it is.

I look forward to watching him if he races. If he decides to retire then I wish him all the best.

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