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mx757 wrote:
How pissed would football fans be if instead of showing the 1st half of the football game, they showed BS interview with the coaches, players, and...
How pissed would football fans be if instead of showing the 1st half of the football game, they showed BS interview with the coaches, players, and owners? How about instead of showing the 80 yard TD pass they showed the left tackle blocking a linebacker the whole time? I guarentee there would be some changes real quick.
haha so true. I also HATE how just because they have the rights to play certain bands music, they constantly blast alterna-rock in the background during the entire prerace show. If I wanted to listen to Fall Out Boy blasting while they show some shitty clip show, I'll go watch mtv. Anyone notice that during the Ellie sequence they played "I'm Just a Girl" by No Doubt? Unbelieveably lame...I was cringing during the whole show.
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I would rather wait 6 more hours and watch SPEED actually show racing and stay with the battles on the track. If you are going to...
I would rather wait 6 more hours and watch SPEED actually show racing and stay with the battles on the track. If you are going to go to the trouble of filming the races, why not show them.

P.S.

Take Shityheen and shove him your azz!!!!!!!!
That had to be a fockup by the production team. Someone forgot to double check and got the wrong edit tape or something.

A black eye for CBS and whoever was in charge of producing the show.

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1/18/2009 12:36pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:03pm
You know what if yo want to see the entire race buy a plane ticket to that city get there at 12:30 when the gate opens and watch SX all day long to your hearts content. Otherwise STFU and be happy you saw what you saw.


Bunch of little F N Crybabies
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mcphilly wrote:
You know what if yo want to see the entire race buy a plane ticket to that city get there at 12:30 when the gate opens...
You know what if yo want to see the entire race buy a plane ticket to that city get there at 12:30 when the gate opens and watch SX all day long to your hearts content. Otherwise STFU and be happy you saw what you saw.


Bunch of little F N Crybabies
STFU Mctool. I did buy a ticket and was there.

Maybe you think a lame, third rate production is good for the sport. But that's just because you don't know shite about making TV.

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1/18/2009 12:45pm Edited Date/Time 1/18/2009 12:47pm
I would rather wait 6 more hours and watch SPEED actually show racing and stay with the battles on the track. If you are going to...
I would rather wait 6 more hours and watch SPEED actually show racing and stay with the battles on the track. If you are going to go to the trouble of filming the races, why not show them.

P.S.

Take Shityheen and shove him your azz!!!!!!!!
Yeah what was up with that. I'm so embarrassed for our sport.
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mcphilly wrote:
You know what if yo want to see the entire race buy a plane ticket to that city get there at 12:30 when the gate opens...
You know what if yo want to see the entire race buy a plane ticket to that city get there at 12:30 when the gate opens and watch SX all day long to your hearts content. Otherwise STFU and be happy you saw what you saw.


Bunch of little F N Crybabies
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STFU Mctool. I did buy a ticket and was there. Maybe you think a lame, third rate production is good for the sport. But that's just...
STFU Mctool. I did buy a ticket and was there.

Maybe you think a lame, third rate production is good for the sport. But that's just because you don't know shite about making TV.

Yeah I dont know shite about tv productions you are right ......


But I do know a bunch o little bitches when I see um....



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Yeah I dont know shite about tv productions you are right ......


But I do know a bunch o little bitches when I see um....



chump
Since you weren't there and don't know shite about the topic ... you really should just STFU then.

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I listened to the entire webcast, while watching the live timing screen. I know what happened in the race. And as for the tv coverage sure it wasnt the greatest but how many of the races are on major network tv. Not very many. That audience is different than your average speed tv junkies so they did have to run all the interviews and get people up to the mix. I thought it was ok and I was thankful it was on the next day and I got to see some racing. Was it the greatest , No but it was better than nothing and I know it will be on speed again next week.

If you are so smart , maybe you should go work for cbs ...otherwise stfu

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I listened to the entire webcast, while watching the live timing screen. I know what happened in the race. And as for the tv coverage sure...
I listened to the entire webcast, while watching the live timing screen. I know what happened in the race. And as for the tv coverage sure it wasnt the greatest but how many of the races are on major network tv. Not very many. That audience is different than your average speed tv junkies so they did have to run all the interviews and get people up to the mix. I thought it was ok and I was thankful it was on the next day and I got to see some racing. Was it the greatest , No but it was better than nothing and I know it will be on speed again next week.

If you are so smart , maybe you should go work for cbs ...otherwise stfu

Moron. You really think they meant to show Shaheen and Emig yakking away with no audio? That was a complete fockup by someone on the production crew. They went to those canned interviews as filler to avoid having dead air. Small slips can happen, huge fockups aren't supposed to happen.

CBS? No thanks, I'm already with one of the other guys.

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The standard.



Interesting Bar-to-Bar article from 2003. RC, Reed, Lusk, MC.

Art Eckman's Bar-to-Bar column 2003-01-24
Racing series AMA-SC SUPERCROSS
Date 2003-01-24

Art Eckman's Column: Bar-to-Bar

(Delta Flight 1938) I usually like to sleep on the way home from a late evening of supercross and an early morning airport arrival time, but there was no way on this cross-country jaunt.

To my right was Randy "Tire man" Richardson who when inspired has been known to catch a good case of machine gun mouth. The next row up on the isle was Ben Cheatwood. This guy could have founded the theory of relativity before Einstein if spewing facts about Honda history were the criteria. Then directly in front of me was two time defending champion and last Saturday's Anaheim II winner Ricky Carmichael who was still wired from his first win of the season. Another row forward was Ezra Lusk, who after showing once again he's serious about challenging for the title this year was as anxious as a lottery winner waiting to see the check. The usual docile "Yogi" was to become a father for the first time the next day thanks to the doctor kick starting labor.

It was like someone had sprinkled droplets of adrenaline in that stuff airliners re-circulate. Anyway before landing, I ended up trading seats with Cheatwood. It had been a while since I last had an opportunity to sit down with Ricky Carmichael away from the track, and I was loaded with curiosity.

Just how much of a relief was it to capture his first win of the season. "Huge," he uttered as his eyes dilated. It was awesome to not make any more mistakes. It's back to where I belong. I never doubted myself but when things happen you start wondering. The first two races I never gave myself a fare shot."

The track was slippery and Ricky told me that his bike was actually too fast. He had to hold it back. Every time he got a good drive at the whoops he pulled away from the field. Ricky won't deny he was concerned going into the race, but his support crew had him thinking positive. His mom and good friend/advisor Johnny O'Mara had him pondering, " I've done it before. Be strong. Be confident in your preparation."

"RC" lifted the weight of the world off his shoulders with his twenty-seventh career 250 supercross win. That tied him with the legendary Bob Hannah for third place on the 250 supercross win list, only one more win away from number two on the list, Rick Johnson. Carmichael also became the third different rider in this year's first three races, to win on three different brands. That's only happened three other times in supercross history. ('97,'93, and '76) Four different winners in the first four races on four different brands has happened only once. (1976) Saturday night the guy finishing behind Mike LaRocco in third place, Sebastien Tortelli, was probably the happiest looking rider around the podium. It was only his third podium since he was a part time AMA participant winning the 1998 season opener. Ricky pointed to Sebastien's fantastic starts so far this season. Sometimes a new ride (switching to Suzuki) and a new coach (Rick Johnson) produces a new frame of mind, he reminded me and Ricky admired Tortelli's effort trying to brake out of the mold he found himself in. "I think he might have gotten tired, but man was he blitzing the whoops, and that was critical on that track. The track was to his liking."

Last Saturday night's amazing heat race between Ezra Lusk and Chad Reed reminded Ricky of a main event he had with Jeremy McGrath at this exact round and location in 2001. "We went back and forth the whole race. He beat me but it was some kind of race." I might add Jeremy won that 20 lapper by a whisker. (.009 of a second)

Ricky and Ezra "Yogi" Lusk go back a long ways. He pointed out, "When I was of the younger generation we were very good friends. We lived pretty close to each other and worked out together at times. But then we became rivals and we went our separate ways -- doing our own things. Now the friendship is one of professional respect. Yogi's running real good. He's confident. It started last year at the end of the season."

What about the new first year challenger from Australia, Chad Reed? Ricky gives him his due but says, "He's a good rider but sixteen races is a long time. I'm more concerned about 'Bubba' as a future contender. He has more talent. He amazes me. I go out and watch him ride his 125 races. He's the next guy."

Ricky says that James Stewart makes mistakes but learns from them. Unlike the talented Travis Pastrana. For Ricky his criticism of Travis was unusually severe. " I'm not one to open up or talk bad about someone. I've had hardly any problems with other riders but he causes this uproar then he's not even here. He doesn't make smart moves on the track. Many times he fails to look ahead. He almost ended LaRocco's career (last year). If I could tell Travis one thing it would be to tone it down."

It's no secret, Carmichael doesn't like racing Pastrana. He feels if his career path included other disciplines he would be spreading himself too thin, lessening his chances for success. Ricky tells me, " I put everything into one thing- racing. This sport is tough enough when focusing on only one goal. You get penalized for not looking ahead at the future and just living for the moment."

Ricky uses the Lusk/Reed heat race as an example of aggressive but good competitive racing. "You don't have to go out of your way to be a jerk to be competitive. I've done it when I was young. Back then watching Jeremy I realized you don't need to be a jerk to make it. Four years ago I lived for the moment. Now my focus is ten years from now. I'm willing to do almost anything to win but one must be smart."

Did one of the most resounding negative crowd reactions in supercross history, prompted by Ricky and Pastrana getting together in the season's first heat race bother him? " It can't help but bother you, but when you look at the tapes and see what he tried to do you realize it's not your fault. I'm highly emotional but like my dad I keep it inside. I think I'm humble. I get defensive when something like that happens. Some people have told me I should stand up to the boos like Bob Hannah probably would have, but that's not me. I keep thinking it would come back to haunt me. I try to play it more like Jeremy McGrath might. You can't please everyone."

Ricky feels he identifies with just the right fan base. " What I'm happy about is that my autograph lines are getting longer and longer and when you look at them it's mostly young kids in the line. That I think is super important."

60 minutes interviewed Ricky for an expose' not long ago. They were searching for comments on the dangers of the sport. He told them, "our sport is only dangerous when a person is doing things he's not qualified for." I asked him how much longer at this pace will he be qualified. Could he ride long enough without getting burned out to approach Jeremy's most awesome record of 72 supercross wins? He replied, " Like Jeremy, I'll keep riding as long as I know I can keep winning. I can't win. I'll quit."

Of course Ricky doesn't anticipate it happening soon but when I asked him to peer beyond riding supercross he looked me in the eye and said that's what scares him. "This is all I've ever done. It scares me. I don't know what I'd do. I don't think I could ever have a better (professional) experience."

Who then would be his favorite example to turn to when approaching retirement from the sport ? For Ricky Carmichael it's a no brainer. He looks at Jeff Stanton, who in semi retirement is still having fun consulting for Honda, but is able to concentrate on being with his young family. Ricky says," Isn't that great? He has all that time with his family. He's right there for them now when they're growing up. I want to be financially able to do that. I want to have a family after I retire so I can be able to have fun with them, and be a part of their lives. When it's all said and done it's family that counts."

Pretty good thinking for a twenty three year old, don't you think?

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The sound problems had to be some regional problem with satelite signals or something because in South FL I got every painful word that Fro and Ralph said loud and clear.
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Two things never fail to amaze me about supercross on tv in America:

1) After more than 25 years of trying, they STILL can't get it right
2) The sheer number of assholes on the internet that always jump up to defend the continually shitty coverage with the same old "STFU and just be happy motorcross is on the TV"

I didn't watch the broadcast and from the looks of this thread, I saved myself some unneeded aggravation.
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About as lame as Ive seen....
1/18/2009 4:54pm
The major thing that stuck out to me was the fact that, unless I blinked and missed it, they didn't show Reed's pass on Windham. Not even a replay. Am I wrong or did the camera guy trip over something or what?
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No, they didn't show it.
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Personally, I love the fact that I get to see the race on TV, but that was complete fluff on the behalf of CBS. When you watched the NFL playoffs today, did CBS spend 90 minutes trying to "inform" the casual fan? SX is about the only sporting event I have ever watched on TV where they spend half the broadcast showing something other than the actual sport. We're very fortunate to have had some great racing this season, but the coverage does not do is justice.

Instead of 40 bucks for an audio feed, maybe next year we could all pitch in 50 bucks and have the TGO crew film with some camcorders and then broadcast via the internet. Then we may actually get to see the relevant portions of the race.
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Pdub wrote:
Two things never fail to amaze me about supercross on tv in America: 1) After more than 25 years of trying, they STILL can't get it...
Two things never fail to amaze me about supercross on tv in America:

1) After more than 25 years of trying, they STILL can't get it right
2) The sheer number of assholes on the internet that always jump up to defend the continually shitty coverage with the same old "STFU and just be happy motorcross is on the TV"

I didn't watch the broadcast and from the looks of this thread, I saved myself some unneeded aggravation.
Pdub is right.
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1/18/2009 7:45pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:03pm
I recorded both the Supercross and Lites class because I was not home, came home and watched them both. FREEKIN NIGHT AND DAY BETWEEN CBS AND SPEED. I hit the fast forward button for the first 30 minutes because I was trying to find out where the actual racing started. I was so pissed...


The lites coverage was awesome on speed.


CBS SUCKED, BOTTOM LINE...
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I give up some comforts by living in the wilderness and quality TV is one of them.
I feel you guys are so fortunate to have had the chance to watch 10 mins of racing
and a bunch of fluff.
I would love to watch any SX racing/fluff on TV, even last years racing..... Hell, I'd settle for a "I wanna ride" commercial.

If you got to see K-Dub lead one lap today, you're lucky.

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Pdub wrote:
Two things never fail to amaze me about supercross on tv in America: 1) After more than 25 years of trying, they STILL can't get it...
Two things never fail to amaze me about supercross on tv in America:

1) After more than 25 years of trying, they STILL can't get it right
2) The sheer number of assholes on the internet that always jump up to defend the continually shitty coverage with the same old "STFU and just be happy motorcross is on the TV"

I didn't watch the broadcast and from the looks of this thread, I saved myself some unneeded aggravation.
Racer92 wrote:
Pdub is right.
The amount of moto I see on TV now a days is way more than just 4 yrs back.On fuel TV there is a lot plus Verses or outdoor has the gncc and the wors.I'll take a percieved "bad broadcast" of a SX race.Hell,I watch all kinds of racin' and see a bunch of marginal broadcasters.

I live moto and have built up a large tolerance thru my years of abuse.My body responded well to the spaced out "12 o'clock/6 oclock" hits or fixes well,now I just need to make it to tuesday.

Just loose the FMX stuff in the lead in.So many ignorant mouth breathers out there thinking reed does backflips which sucks when you know the training one does for MX which is what started FMX,a bunch of guys that couldn't cope with havin' to work to win.
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I posted this at Motopen and I'm posting it here as well as I'm sick of all the whining:

I just don't get it. I thought the coverage was good, from the interviews, to the bios and the camera angles. I'm not just a fan of the sport, I'm a fan of the riders, the teams, the mechanics, the trainers, the tracks, the stadiums and anything or anyone involved. The WHOLE package is what I truly love and I want to know about and experience every aspect of the sport that I possibly can. When I go to an SX or an MX race, I get to the track as soon as the gates open. I'm lucky enough to have access to decent passes and know some people who take good care of me at the races and I take full advantage of this by spending as much time as I can in the pits looking at the bikes, the rigs, the mechanics working and anything else that makes the sport what it is.

I talk to anyone who will spend a minute with me, be it riders, mechanics, managers, family or other fans just to see what their opinions or feelings are. Every practice or qualifying session I'm in the stands watching, keeping track of laptimes and seeing who looks good where on the track. I just have to absorb as much of the whole experience as I can which I guess is why I can't understand what all the bitching is about with the TV coverage. If the network didn't have the interviews, how would we know what the riders are thinking or feeling about the track, their competition or their own riding? You can read all the interviews you want and still not get the emotions or feelings the riders have like you can with an on camera interview.

Do we want to know what these riders are really like or do we want the bikes ridden by no faced robots?

Come on guys, relax, enjoy the coverage for what it is, and become a fan of the entire sport again.

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Wolfman wrote:
I thought at some points-like Stewarts last lap- they could have used picture in picture to show both the battle and the winner.
Great idea
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I would rather wait 6 more hours and watch SPEED actually show racing and stay with the battles on the track. If you are going to...
I would rather wait 6 more hours and watch SPEED actually show racing and stay with the battles on the track. If you are going to go to the trouble of filming the races, why not show them.

P.S.

Take Shityheen and shove him your azz!!!!!!!!
don't watch it then.

guys like you remind of the buddy in HS with the ex-girlfriend he couldn't stand, but always hooked up with her on sat nite after a full week of bitchen moaning about her. grow the fuck up
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1/18/2009 8:49pm Edited Date/Time 1/18/2009 8:51pm
Dont tell me, they followed the Monster sponsored guys around most of the time? I was just trying to dl the torrent..but on second thoughts doesnt sound like its worth it.
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hillbilly wrote:
I think it is because a lot of the country still gets their TV picture thru that big aluminum thing on the roof.So this is the...
I think it is because a lot of the country still gets their TV picture thru that big aluminum thing on the roof.So this is the 1st race for a lot and they go thru and show the fluff again.

Lots of spoiled people.Go back to waiting until 4am (pick a day because you never knew )to watch larry maiers on motoworld and get week old news but still beating cycle news by 3 days.

Only thing I hate is the damn gay ass fmx shit they show.
Dude i remeber sitting up just to record motoworld or a race...
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hillbilly wrote:
I think it is because a lot of the country still gets their TV picture thru that big aluminum thing on the roof.So this is the...
I think it is because a lot of the country still gets their TV picture thru that big aluminum thing on the roof.So this is the 1st race for a lot and they go thru and show the fluff again.

Lots of spoiled people.Go back to waiting until 4am (pick a day because you never knew )to watch larry maiers on motoworld and get week old news but still beating cycle news by 3 days.

Only thing I hate is the damn gay ass fmx shit they show.
I do miss MotoWorld.
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1/18/2009 9:47pm Edited Date/Time 1/18/2009 9:47pm
Holy crap I can't believe some people actually stick up for the broadcast!! Some people are satisfied with anything I guess. fuggin dumbasses
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Didn't CBS air a Supercross preview show a week before Anaheim 1? I thought they aired all of the fluff and bitter rivalries during that 1 hour show. The telecast today was almost a carbon copy of their telecast of the Rockstar US Open.
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Bring back Art Eckman.

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