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You would let the fast guys rest while everyone else beats themselves up trying to make the show? Factory Favoritism.
The fans have to watch the slow guys fight it out and only get to see the fast guys in the mains? I won't buy that ticket.
I'm not getting into outdoors, that IS tradition.
If a "filler" race is held, it needs to be distinctly different than the main show bikes visibly and audibly. Super Mini's would be my 1st choice. 125cc high school kids 2nd.(they are full size and therefore look the same to casual fans)
Right now your seeing the fast guys do 8 laps (heat) with that being very anti-climatic watered down racing, the LCQ's tend to be very racy, and LOL at tiring out in a 5 minute sprint. at least with this you get 2 mains at full sprint speed and everyone close. the back half of these SX races will put anyone to sleep.
As for nationals it is the same thing, typically when the 20 minute mark is there the moto is determined. I remember the 40 minute moto's used to be snore fest's (tradition???) we used to race 2 strokes that needed to be finessed around the track now its these tractors that my gramma can hit the triples with.
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4 quarterfinals where 1/2 the field advances
2 semifinals where 1/2 the field advances
1 main
I want to see the top guys race more, not less. We don't buy tickets to see a bunch of guys who just just got their name and number on a jersey race.
Totally agree the races have been too long (and therefore boring) and could be shorter. Shorter races would mean more different winners since not everybody is a fitness fiend with Aldon as a trainer.
Paying points in the quarter and semi finals would stop the lollygagging once you are in a qualifying position. Gate picks are not a big enough motivator, and should be random anyway to keep the same people from always winning.
It is broke.
Less dirt bikes are sold every year. Tracks are closing. SX races like Houston are dropped after decades due to empty seats. You can't watch it on TV without cable. That is not success.
SX is about entertainment, and always was; that's why they put it in a stadium. It started with Flat track in the Astrodome, and where is that these days?
We aren't alone. Nike announced today that they won't make Golf equipment any more since Millennial's aren't taking up the sport.
Don't change, and see what you get. Left behind.
All year long points are based on the position you finish compared to the number of riders on the gate. 25 riders and you get 1st is 25, 2nd 24 and so on.
Points awarded for all night show results, quarter finals, semi finals and main. No points for loser races or consolation LCQ etc. Don't even run that crap.
1 throwaway per season of your lowest score. (includes quarter and semi and main)
The 3rd and 2nd to last races of the Season pay DOUBLE POINTS and the last race of the Season pays TRIPLE POINTS, there is no reset or erasing of points earned all year.
There is your CHASE.
What more fair way is there to crown a champion than to have everyone compete against everyone else at every track, in which there is a ton of variety in, and then seeing who has the most points when the series ends?
When die hard lifelong fans are begging for a change, it is beyond boredom, it is a damn ReLOVEution!
it is the ENTERTAINMENT value we are seeking. And using the Nascar term "CHASE" is just a stir the pot politically incorrect way of describing a review of the points system (which has been revised about 5 times already in the history of the sport). It infers that the season would have a complete reset going into the "Playoff's" and that is merely speculation at this point. I don't want that either, so I am offering some alternatives rather than just bitching about change.
Not a fan of hot laps for gate picks which don't mean much anyways. It's about like the rider introductions with fireworks and wheelies etc. to me.
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Not you Gzus, "Fair" is directed to TDeath21
What sponsor wants to back a sport where the seats are empty, thank god (at this stage) we still get airplay...something HAS to be done or this sport will die...so lets all embrace the change and hope more seats get filled ok? Lets all support the sport instead of thinking we all know better than the organisers who are getting less and less sales at the gate and less sales at the stadiums themselves (merchandise, food, drinks, etc).
What Point System would be the most Entertaining to you?
1. A full reset of points at the end of the season and allowing the top 10 rider's to compete for the title
2. A more random compilation of points throughout the season and a huge end of season points bounty
Has anyone got others?
It would tighten things back up, reward the current leaders (literally keeping the same running order), and give you four races to prove you're the champ. Not to mention it would add some much needed excitement to the finale in Vegas as no one could clinch the title a race or two out.
You have to start the race to be able to throw it away. You don't use them for injuries.....or maybe one throwaway for injury and one throwaway for a bad finish in the main. If you don't qualify you can't throw it away.
Maybe I stand alone on this one but feel like no one discredits the NFL or NBA champions for winning while using a point reset system (and they have 2 resets!). For example take a look at the Golden State Warriors. They went into the playoffs with one of the best season records ever but lost to the Cavs. Not only were those 7 games exciting as all hell to watch but you don't hear anyone saying "but Golden State's record was so good!" to discredit the Cav's win because Golden State had 7 opportunities to prove they were the best and couldn't do it.
I know having a seeded reset "is not as pure" as it has been but if we can provide an opportunity for the athletes to prove themselves on fair grounds (not a single "winner takes all" race at the end, IE the Superbowl, but 4 or 5 races") I see no issue in trying to increase the entertainment value for everyone going into the later part of the season. At the end of the day Supercross is entertainment. Yes, it's about finding the best indoor rider on a man made track under the lights with fireworks, hype guys, rider intros, and huge fire balls but we have Motocross – the most pure form of dirt bike racing – to be our rock for dirt bike racing so let's spice our Saturday nights up.
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