Hot Rumor - AMart to TLD/KTM in '17

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6/7/2016 8:42pm
AMart would be a fool to leave Yamaha.

JMart sticking around is a smart move as well. Good to see him making the right choice regardless of what everyone thinks.
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6/7/2016 9:02pm
MOTO120 wrote:
Really surprised nobody is talking about the new rumor of Alex Martin going to TLD/KTM for 2017......
sticking around in the 250 class or with yamaha? because I'm not sure if it is that smart to give your team mate (webb) 1 season ahead of you in the 450 class. that kind of puts you right into the no2 spot in the team.
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6/7/2016 9:27pm
Does A Mart going with TLD KTM give him a chance to train with Baker since TLD is the factory KTM 250 team and Baker wants a 250 rider???
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6/7/2016 9:51pm Edited Date/Time 6/7/2016 10:46pm
MOTO120 wrote:
Really surprised nobody is talking about the new rumor of Alex Martin going to TLD/KTM for 2017......
51xc wrote:
sticking around in the 250 class or with yamaha? because I'm not sure if it is that smart to give your team mate (webb) 1 season...
sticking around in the 250 class or with yamaha? because I'm not sure if it is that smart to give your team mate (webb) 1 season ahead of you in the 450 class. that kind of puts you right into the no2 spot in the team.
JMart NEEDS the time in SX on the small bike. Giving Webb an extra year won't matter if he can't even make it a full season on the big bike.

And staying with Yamaha. Both smart choices IMO

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6/8/2016 12:45am
IceMan446 wrote:
JMart NEEDS the time in SX on the small bike. Giving Webb an extra year won't matter if he can't even make it a full season...
JMart NEEDS the time in SX on the small bike. Giving Webb an extra year won't matter if he can't even make it a full season on the big bike.

And staying with Yamaha. Both smart choices IMO
x2, he is not there yet in sx skills imho
6/8/2016 3:15am
And out of left there's another deal come together that blows this thread apart
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6/8/2016 4:52am
And out of left there's another deal come together that blows this thread apart
Care to elaborate?
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I font no where these guys are going but till the ink is dry and the press release hits vital it's just talking and rumors. With...
I font no where these guys are going but till the ink is dry and the press release hits vital it's just talking and rumors. With that said my thoughts would be if Alex has an offer at star he should stay, his relationship with Yamaha over the last few years has to be good and he seems to exel on the blue bike which is nothing like an orange bike. He rides the wheels off that bike with confidence like his brother has done in the past. Jeremy seems a bit off this year but I believe he's collected great points so far while looking a bit reserved. Maybe it's just his strategy to stay there and not risk it while he gets up to speed and comfortable and I see it working for him as we are getting closer and closer to his back yard (no pun) here on the east coast. Alot of what i say applies to both brothers, stay where you are in a blue bike and work out the details on a truck because your going to be dealing with the people you know and it's working. Both brothers arnt scrambling to figure out bike set up and lacking in speed and that's because of the program there on is working. These guys could both be battling eachother for the title and hec savatgy could make it hard for either of them to take it back home to making an awesome series for the fans which I hope to see. But I would not like to see these guys come back and struggle next year because right now they are solid and that's money in the bank right there. Confidence comes with the time they've invested there.

Other riders will be moving around regardless of that want to or not and for some it's almost necessary. We have seen trey on the same bike for a long time now and honestly I think eceryones ready to see him come back with a new freshly clean strategy of getting back up front. With ktm he will have the chance (hopefully) to use aldon and we see how he turns riders around and brings up there confidence and all around game when it comes race time. I didn't ever think trey struggled with the Honda however I didn't see him racing the way me and everyone knows he can and that might be because he's gone stale mentally because his speed is still with the top guys in practice and even when he races. I think it's just time for something new. I also think brayton will benifit with a change as well and going over to yellow isn't a bad change, the bikes are good for a smooth rider that rides within his ability. I know I always felt good on the Suzuki just flowing, it never felt like a bike you push aggressively you just ride it with 70 percent talent and 30 percent on the edge where as the Honda I always ride aggressively because it's so streamlined.

Now with that last thing said I can say roczen going to Honda could be the worse thing for Every one else, hes riding that Suzuki 50/50 between talent and shear desire to put as much time as he can between him and the rest of the feild. I can't imagine how that Honda will be with him riding it 80 percent aggressive and putting it to 100 percent or more with all that talent, the guys amazing. Hopefully he gets in it and feels at home and can contend to bring Honda a premier class championship that they need really bad these days. I believe he can do it with a little more consistency and collecting podium points on his non winning weekends. As much as I like seeing the hardest working guy win, it is important for our sport to be close down to the last race and dungey has done an exelent job making sure he's getting max points to eliminate that from happening. Even when he crashes he is the fastest to get up n going so he doesn't lose time which is something these other racers don't do. Dungey could of spent time fixing his levers this weekend but he got up n going so fast he lost about 7 spots on the opening lap after a pretty hard hit which normally leaves you at the end of the pack, that's damage control and I like seeing his desire to maximise his points.
Cheers for the detailed and insightful post.
6/8/2016 10:05am
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With Jmart not going to RCH. And Kroc leaving. And. Talk of Brayton to Suzuki Does that open the door for the Stewart's to ride for...
With Jmart not going to RCH. And Kroc leaving. And. Talk of Brayton to Suzuki Does that open the door for the Stewart's to ride for RCH ?
No, I too don't think that will ever happen.

But seeing RCH has severed ties with JMart - maybe they want to go after Joey Savatgy instead?
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6/8/2016 11:01am Edited Date/Time 6/8/2016 11:01am
No, I too don't think that will ever happen. But seeing RCH has severed ties with JMart - maybe they want to go after Joey Savatgy...
No, I too don't think that will ever happen.

But seeing RCH has severed ties with JMart - maybe they want to go after Joey Savatgy instead?
What makes you think RCH severed ties? It is most likely the other way around???? If anyone on here thinks 2 straight outdoor titles and in the hunt for a 3rd, along with several 250 SX wins doesn't put a rider in the driver's seat for contract negotiation, you are sorely mistaken. That doesn't even take into account his work ethic, fitness, and the fact that he is likely the most humble champion in the sport. How many 250 sx races has Bogle won? He has 1 title and still a hot commodity, because of potential. Look bigger picture...
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6/8/2016 11:03am
That being said, another year in 250sx is genius. He'll be fine on a 450 outdoors, trust me. As will Alex when he moves up. Those two can flat out ride, and I've seen em both on big bikes. No worries there.
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6/8/2016 1:12pm
Welp, when Savatgy decides to move up, RCH will have an opening!
6/9/2016 2:05pm Edited Date/Time 6/9/2016 2:06pm
kiwifan wrote:
TC to KTM? wow
I first heard something like this quite a while back and for some reason I instantly put it down and said it'd never happen. Then my old man showed me a picture of an intimidating four man team back in the day under the leadership of DeCoster. Anyway, 5, 25, 15, 41 should be a heavy arsenal for KTM in SX 2017.
6/9/2016 3:24pm
kiwifan wrote:
TC to KTM? wow
I first heard something like this quite a while back and for some reason I instantly put it down and said it'd never happen. Then my...
I first heard something like this quite a while back and for some reason I instantly put it down and said it'd never happen. Then my old man showed me a picture of an intimidating four man team back in the day under the leadership of DeCoster. Anyway, 5, 25, 15, 41 should be a heavy arsenal for KTM in SX 2017.
But how didn't you see this in the tea leaves before it happened?
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6/9/2016 4:07pm
kiwifan wrote:
TC to KTM? wow
I first heard something like this quite a while back and for some reason I instantly put it down and said it'd never happen. Then my...
I first heard something like this quite a while back and for some reason I instantly put it down and said it'd never happen. Then my old man showed me a picture of an intimidating four man team back in the day under the leadership of DeCoster. Anyway, 5, 25, 15, 41 should be a heavy arsenal for KTM in SX 2017.
And...as much as nobody wants to say it, if Ryan Dungey either can't come back to racing due to his injury...or decides it's not worth the risk to...

Even the KTM team of Canard, Musquin & Wilson sounds pretty damned strong.
6/9/2016 5:07pm
But how didn't you see this in the tea leaves before it happened?


6/9/2016 5:34pm
lol. Won't be taking any of your future predictions. Nice tie BTW
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6/9/2016 6:17pm
both MART's need more development in SX. their SX skills are only rivaled by Euro transplants, ie behind. so it would be a good move for Jmart to go to Factory Yamaha with Webb, ride 250sx then 450 mx.

Amart has only just arrived at the top so he still needs time to develop but he clearly has not peaked on speed. I see him winning more motos this year.

Suzuki, I don't know who they'll have. I can see them resigning Baggett, he looked great till crash and he clearly has the speed for mx but he's not threat for sx. I don't think there is anyone they can sign that would be a threat for wins in sx, brayton is a solid top 10 guy but he's getting up there in age, so he's a good second rider. unless they keep JS7 or pull Canard away from KTM...looks like they'll be back to 90's early 00's status of a cut rate factory team
6/9/2016 6:54pm
lol. Won't be taking any of your future predictions. Nice tie BTW


6/9/2016 6:58pm
both MART's need more development in SX. their SX skills are only rivaled by Euro transplants, ie behind. so it would be a good move for...
both MART's need more development in SX. their SX skills are only rivaled by Euro transplants, ie behind. so it would be a good move for Jmart to go to Factory Yamaha with Webb, ride 250sx then 450 mx.

Amart has only just arrived at the top so he still needs time to develop but he clearly has not peaked on speed. I see him winning more motos this year.

Suzuki, I don't know who they'll have. I can see them resigning Baggett, he looked great till crash and he clearly has the speed for mx but he's not threat for sx. I don't think there is anyone they can sign that would be a threat for wins in sx, brayton is a solid top 10 guy but he's getting up there in age, so he's a good second rider. unless they keep JS7 or pull Canard away from KTM...looks like they'll be back to 90's early 00's status of a cut rate factory team
You mean Euro transplants like Kenny and Marvin behind? Or JMB, Pourcel, Vuillemin, Tortelli, Pichon also?

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