R.Febvre pissed off at V.Guillod?

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6/7/2016 7:05am Edited Date/Time 6/7/2016 7:23am
RG1 wrote:
But the point is, Febvre doesn't think twice about making moves like that in a quali race, like in Germany, but he has a problem when...
But the point is, Febvre doesn't think twice about making moves like that in a quali race, like in Germany, but he has a problem when it's the other way round. He's like that guy in your group of friends who always dishes out insults and jokes to the others, but then falls out with everyone when people do it to him.
You can't be further from the truth.

No, the point is you don't want to understand that Romain's attitude lately is simply the result of frustration caused by a sum of incidents that happened in a row with people he doesn't get along with, nothing more. Romain hasn't changed a bit. He just doesn't want to lose the championship due to outside track issues.

Ok he did it to Gasjer too and so what, they discussed it after the race and moved on. Guillod did the same to him, Roamin was pissed the same way Tim was in Germany, they discussed it and moved on too. Maybe, that discussion made him think about it and explains his reaction. His gesture was stupid, but it doesn't make of Febvre an "entitled prick" as you said with class a little above (the fact you try so hard to convince people he is is beyond me). Has Cairoli become one too now you know he "stole" Jeremy's gate before Romain did in Italy? Is Tim an "entitled prick" cause he wasn't too happy with Romain's move in Germany and told him a word or two after the race?

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6/7/2016 7:17am
I like the anger from febvre but he's second best right now and I think it's frustrating him
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6/7/2016 7:36am
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You can't be further from the truth. No, the point is you don't want to understand that Romain's attitude lately is simply the result of frustration...
You can't be further from the truth.

No, the point is you don't want to understand that Romain's attitude lately is simply the result of frustration caused by a sum of incidents that happened in a row with people he doesn't get along with, nothing more. Romain hasn't changed a bit. He just doesn't want to lose the championship due to outside track issues.

Ok he did it to Gasjer too and so what, they discussed it after the race and moved on. Guillod did the same to him, Roamin was pissed the same way Tim was in Germany, they discussed it and moved on too. Maybe, that discussion made him think about it and explains his reaction. His gesture was stupid, but it doesn't make of Febvre an "entitled prick" as you said with class a little above (the fact you try so hard to convince people he is is beyond me). Has Cairoli become one too now you know he "stole" Jeremy's gate before Romain did in Italy? Is Tim an "entitled prick" cause he wasn't too happy with Romain's move in Germany and told him a word or two after the race?

I think if you go back you'll see I said that he 'acts like and entitled prick', he may not normally be that way, but at St Jean he acted that way, if you're going to react like that to someone running you a little wide, it's almost like 'you can't do that to me!' I can understand he doesn't want to lose the championship because of incidents with people 'he doesn't get along with' as you say, but if you're gonna make people mad out there then those incidents are going to keep happening
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6/7/2016 8:40am
RG1 wrote:
I think if you go back you'll see I said that he 'acts like and entitled prick', he may not normally be that way, but at...
I think if you go back you'll see I said that he 'acts like and entitled prick', he may not normally be that way, but at St Jean he acted that way, if you're going to react like that to someone running you a little wide, it's almost like 'you can't do that to me!' I can understand he doesn't want to lose the championship because of incidents with people 'he doesn't get along with' as you say, but if you're gonna make people mad out there then those incidents are going to keep happening
"but if you're gonna make people mad out there then those incidents are going to keep happening" you got a point.

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6/7/2016 9:28am
It's been bubbling on for a while now that Guillod has got up to speed,I think he surprised Febvre by putting up such a fight when Febvre was moving through the field a few GP's ago.Maybe Febvre expected an easy route as the top Yamaha rider
6/7/2016 10:59am
TriRacer27 wrote:
You guys are blowing this way out of proportion. Maybe Febvre was just telling VG that he needed to shift up. You know, teammate advice and...
You guys are blowing this way out of proportion.

Maybe Febvre was just telling VG that he needed to shift up. You know, teammate advice and such.
Nailed it
6/7/2016 12:23pm
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It's not about thinking he's better than everyone else, that's a separate thing, it's that he feels he has the right to do things that others...
It's not about thinking he's better than everyone else, that's a separate thing, it's that he feels he has the right to do things that others don't. Like steal someone else's gate because he didn't like his, or pull aggressive moves, then have a problem when someone does the same to him. There was nothing wrong with Guillod's move at all, doesn't matter if it's a quali race or not. He may be World Champion, but if he wants respect, then he must show everyone else that same respect, he has to earn it. Cairoli has always given great respect to all his rivals and that's why no one has a problem with him despite the fact he's been dominant for so long. I know nobody's out there to make friends, but it doesn't hurt to have a few out there from time to time. You certainly don't want to be making enemies left right and centre like he is.

There were 3 riders who would've won the title ahead of Febvre last year if they hadn't got injured, which fair enough, to finish first, first you have to finish, but he didn't absolutely smoke everyone, so he's not above everyone else
Total BS.
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6/7/2016 1:02pm
Still feel if this little bar banging and shoulder rubbing had happened in the States, no one would even have noticed...
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6/7/2016 1:31pm
C-Rock wrote:
Still feel if this little bar banging and shoulder rubbing had happened in the States, no one would even have noticed...
You don't have qualifying races though ?
6/7/2016 1:43pm
When I heard the gate story from a local MX friend who was pissed off at Febvre, he was unable to answer one simple question I had. Did Febvre still have to choose a gate, and did he have the right to choose the gate he wanted before Jeremy. If the answer to both was yes....then what argument does Jeremy have?

I didnt like the move pulled by Febvre...but Im from Switzerland (French speaking part) so Im far too biased to really make a comment on this....and it has more to do with a dislike for the French...than my support for Valentin...so ill keep out of this. As we say in Football (I dont watch football) in Switzerland...I support two teams. Switzerland and any team that beats France.

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6/7/2016 2:07pm
RG1 wrote:
It's not about thinking he's better than everyone else, that's a separate thing, it's that he feels he has the right to do things that others...
It's not about thinking he's better than everyone else, that's a separate thing, it's that he feels he has the right to do things that others don't. Like steal someone else's gate because he didn't like his, or pull aggressive moves, then have a problem when someone does the same to him. There was nothing wrong with Guillod's move at all, doesn't matter if it's a quali race or not. He may be World Champion, but if he wants respect, then he must show everyone else that same respect, he has to earn it. Cairoli has always given great respect to all his rivals and that's why no one has a problem with him despite the fact he's been dominant for so long. I know nobody's out there to make friends, but it doesn't hurt to have a few out there from time to time. You certainly don't want to be making enemies left right and centre like he is.

There were 3 riders who would've won the title ahead of Febvre last year if they hadn't got injured, which fair enough, to finish first, first you have to finish, but he didn't absolutely smoke everyone, so he's not above everyone else
Total BS.
Fair enough, just the way I see it
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6/7/2016 2:20pm
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You don't have qualifying races though ?
Pretty irrelevant "race incident" to me, that's all...
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6/7/2016 4:14pm
TMV wrote:
He used to do the exact same thing Antonio did to Jeremy before Romain in Italy. You pick a gate, let other riders do the job...
He used to do the exact same thing Antonio did to Jeremy before Romain in Italy. You pick a gate, let other riders do the job for you and then you thank them for their job but tell them they have to move. You don't need necessarily to do the pole, your direct opponent has to be behind you during qualy.
hah!

i can see some smelly French or Italian pulling that kind of cheap bullshit
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6/7/2016 8:09pm
Good to see some emotion and aggression in the GP's. Some real characters racing that series, does no harm at all IMO.
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6/8/2016 12:18am Edited Date/Time 6/8/2016 12:21am
When I heard the gate story from a local MX friend who was pissed off at Febvre, he was unable to answer one simple question I...
When I heard the gate story from a local MX friend who was pissed off at Febvre, he was unable to answer one simple question I had. Did Febvre still have to choose a gate, and did he have the right to choose the gate he wanted before Jeremy. If the answer to both was yes....then what argument does Jeremy have?

I didnt like the move pulled by Febvre...but Im from Switzerland (French speaking part) so Im far too biased to really make a comment on this....and it has more to do with a dislike for the French...than my support for Valentin...so ill keep out of this. As we say in Football (I dont watch football) in Switzerland...I support two teams. Switzerland and any team that beats France.

Febvre beat JvH in qualifying so he had the right to choose whatever gate he wanted. However these days, when riders choose and pre-prepare their gate beforehand it is arguably bad etiquette to take someone else's.

However, for this argument to have taken place Romain must have told JvH he was taking his gate well before the bikes went to the line.

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