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just wrong.....
But I agree with you!!!!
That poor monkey was in his prison, minding his business for mans profit....
Little white manchild gets into cage, he tries to protect it, gets killed for his efforts.
You imprison someone for their whole life then kill them for being benevolent.
Yeah, sounds like 'merica
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/japanese-parents-who-abandoned-son-bear-infest…
Great post. Couldn't said it better myself and thanks for day care tidbit.
She will no doubt see an increase in business after her stellar demonstration of her child handling skills.
More proof of the bizarro world we all live in. I'd like to been born earlier and have already checked out before things got this crazy to tell you the truth
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In that logic, why stop there guys?
What do her coworkers and friends say about her as a parent? Does the mother have an attention disability? You!!...You saw the child alone from adult supervision and didn't stop him immediately and get security!? Why didn't you direct the onlookers away and hush them to help zoo officials? Why is there no spotter for the exhibit?! Why is there no tranquilizer capable of stunning a large animal immediately down for this exact situation?! Is the child's autism misdiagnosis to blame?
Why the fuck does negligence only lie on the parent. Ultimately it's the entire zoo system and our involvement, is it not?
I can't believe the shit that spews out grown men's mouths sometimes.
Understand it's fundamentally a grey area, treat it as such. Something bad happened at a zoo? well, then don't have a fucking zoo. Oh, you still want a zoo? Well then keep reading comments like these.
And for all the parent bashers, there is not a single person on this board that hasn't gotten lost as a child, or lost your kids for even a moment.
Not a fan of the DM (or any paper really) but the photos are good. You can see with the first two images how easy it is for a child to momentarily crawl through or over the "barrier" (right image).
Carry on.
After the child is in there and the gorilla was acting the way it was, they had no choice but to put it down. That was the right call.
I'm not a parent, but I have a question for those that are. If your child does fall in like that, would you jump in as well and protect your child at all costs? Or would you wait and hope for the best, putting your trust in the zookeepers to essentially save your child's life?
On a related topic, I fucking hate zoos. I'll never go to one for the rest of my life. I'm not a crazy vegan animal activist or anything, but it's awful to keep animals in an enclosure for our viewing pleasure.
Its easy for those that don't have to say "just keep a better eye on your kids"...my wife an I boarder on helicopter parents (when it comes to public places with our kids) and there have been a few times where one of my kids have seemingly disappeared, and its taken a few minutes to find them. Not because we weren't paying attention, but because kids have a mind of their own...
For example, I was watching my then 4 year old daughter at this small playground at a park...she'd been going down the slide, walking around to the back (out of my sight for 20-30 seconds, tops) climbing the ladder and then coming back down the slide. There was maybe 10 kids there with her. She goes down the slide, walks around to the back and I see a blond pony tail and pink shirt waiting in line for the slide...it's not for another maybe 30 seconds, that I realize its not my daughter (but another little girl)...my heart drops, as I realize I don't know where my daughter is. Frantically running around the park, I finally find her a hundred yards away, trying to get a drink at the water fountain on the other side of the bathrooms. Sure, if something bad had happened (she get kidnapped or hit by a car or something) there'd be a lot of people telling me I need to keep a better eye on my kid...but I was watching my kid.
And to answer your question...if that was my son...I would have had to be held out of the enclosure...I would have been down there right away. I probably would have made the situation worse and got us both killed...but I just don't see myself standing by and waiting for help. I'd of done something and tried to protect my kid, and if it cost me my own life, then so be it.
And a zoo's main purpose is to raise awareness for the wild animals...they get people engaged with the animals, they educate about the animals, which then gives people a vested interest in them, so that they are more likely to help protect them and their habitat. The animals there don't know any different, they've been in captivity their entire lives...and as a result are incapable of surviving in the wild anyway...so not use them to raise awareness for their species?
The rest of this isn't directed at any post in particular, just my (extreme) opinions.
Regarding the killing of the gorilla - typical American media style 'mass agitation'. People are upset about a single Gorilla...where's the upheaval over continual poaching of gorillas in Africa for things like meat and heads/feet/hands for "collectors"? Of the species of Gorillas in the wild, there are something like 500-1000 left in the world of 'mountain gorillas' - the rarest species. Give it 20 years, that number will be down to a quarter. Move along sheeple, nothing to see here.
Should the gorilla have been killed? Yes. Although I'm of the mindset that she loses the child - relocate him to a family who's been trying unsuccessfully to have a child for 2 years but can't. I guarantee they won't lose him.
Although technically, Darwinism was thwarted - if a kid is dumb enough to climb into a gorilla enclosure (regardless of the barriers there's gorillas in there you dumbass) I'm sorry but he probably will have stuck a fork in a socket at some point.
We're 7+ billion strong, let's stop acting like it's a big deal (to others besides the parents & close relatives).
For the record I don't have a kid (and don't want any - it's irresponsible today).
Excerpt from the CNN interview:
"We continue to praise God for His grace and mercy, and to be thankful to the Cincinnati Zoo for their actions taken to protect our child," the boy's family said. "
The picture is getting more clear here.
You fail as a parent to properly maintain overview on your child in a potentially hazardous location. Your child falls (climbs) into a gorilla enclosure despite numerous warning signs and physical barriers, resulting in the gorilla being killed and god is the one who made that happen? Please go
Flame on vitards
Titan - I believe that's the predominant 'purpose' of the zoo but I fail to see that actually being the case. Kids can learn much more from reading, researching, etc on animals like this.
If I can recall the last time I was at a zoo, it was overcrowded with snot-nosed kids who couldn't care any more about tapping on the glass to try to get an animal to react, which they don't and are called 'boring' then they want to move on to the ice cream/candy/gift shop.
Children don't learn appreciation for animals from a day at the zoo unless they already have it beforehand via parenting instilling the mentality. Sorry
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Right?
If I take your example and project it onto the gorilla situation it would read like this (I think):
A mother takes her child to ride at a local track. Said child gets hurt participating in riding - in the ensuing day the track owner, designer, and maintenance crew are all imprisoned and the track closed to prevent further injury.
Might be a bit of a stretch but I think that's fairly parallel?
Your comment makes me think though - Why aren't waivers signed going into the zoo? Because no one would go probably.
It's an enclosed space filled with large, potentially carnivorous animals - I think at this day and age when you sign waivers at the public pool is it really that far fetched?
And you lost me on the part about jailing anyone. I certainly haven't spoken for that nor have any of the zoo employees been jailed, so it really doesn't make any sense here.
You, however, called for the woman to lose her child so it's a pretty fair question to ask why you wouldn't be railing for parents who knowingly put their children at high risk to lose theirs.
There are plenty of crappy parents in the world...but sometimes great parents make honest mistakes. Honest mistakes shouldn't be cause for jail time or losing their kids. I believe there is a difference between a mistake and negligence.
Lets blame the zoo, taking personal responsibility for your actions and those of your children is out of the question.
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