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akillerwombat 5/6/2016 9:05am
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agn5009 wrote:
How are you so awesome that you can call your personal opinion a fact? It is my understanding that a fact is indisputable?
This is the Vital boards; factitious opinions without supporting evidence are facts!


It's been ages since Kenny and Herlings raced each other – the only way to know who truly is faster is to have them line up against each other.
RichardLoots 5/6/2016 9:09am
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agn5009 wrote:
How are you so awesome that you can call your personal opinion a fact? It is my understanding that a fact is indisputable?
oh so who was the best MX rider last year in youre opinion ??? come on ......Febvre ruled last year , fact is he won all those races , worldchampionship, US GP and MXON ......anybody beat that ??

but tell me who was better last year ???
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agn5009 5/6/2016 9:35am
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agn5009 wrote:
How are you so awesome that you can call your personal opinion a fact? It is my understanding that a fact is indisputable?
RichardLoots wrote:
oh so who was the best MX rider last year in youre opinion ??? come on ......Febvre ruled last year , fact is he won all...
oh so who was the best MX rider last year in youre opinion ??? come on ......Febvre ruled last year , fact is he won all those races , worldchampionship, US GP and MXON ......anybody beat that ??

but tell me who was better last year ???
In my opinion? No one other than Dungey can compare to him last year. In Joe schmoes opinion? Maybe he thinks someone else. Point is, your opinion is not a fact. Febvre didn't line up against the best in the AMA. Dungey didn't line up against the best in the GP's. It's impossible for them to do both series. Thus, it is impossible to say who is better over the course of an entire series. Anyone saying anything different is stating their opinion. Do I believe Febvre would beat Dungey on most GP tracks? Yes, of course. Do I believe Dungey would beat Febvre on most AMA tracks? Yes, of course. Your opinion means nothing. It is not supported by a single fact.

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RichardLoots 5/6/2016 9:42am
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agn5009 wrote:
In my opinion? No one other than Dungey can compare to him last year. In Joe schmoes opinion? Maybe he thinks someone else. Point is, your...
In my opinion? No one other than Dungey can compare to him last year. In Joe schmoes opinion? Maybe he thinks someone else. Point is, your opinion is not a fact. Febvre didn't line up against the best in the AMA. Dungey didn't line up against the best in the GP's. It's impossible for them to do both series. Thus, it is impossible to say who is better over the course of an entire series. Anyone saying anything different is stating their opinion. Do I believe Febvre would beat Dungey on most GP tracks? Yes, of course. Do I believe Dungey would beat Febvre on most AMA tracks? Yes, of course. Your opinion means nothing. It is not supported by a single fact.
oh come on , Febvre was the one lining up at a US GP and won , where was Dungey ??
Febvre lined up at MXON and won against youre AMA MX riders and the rest of the world .....where was Dungey ??


so based on the fact he is american and won a national title in MX he is the best of 2016 , Dungey was the best Laughing

youre pretty awesome with youre facts .......... typical topic response for a US based forum , not surprised at all

have a nice day ..... Dungey is one of the best , totally agree .
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agn5009 wrote:
How are you so awesome that you can call your personal opinion a fact? It is my understanding that a fact is indisputable?
RichardLoots wrote:
oh so who was the best MX rider last year in youre opinion ??? come on ......Febvre ruled last year , fact is he won all...
oh so who was the best MX rider last year in youre opinion ??? come on ......Febvre ruled last year , fact is he won all those races , worldchampionship, US GP and MXON ......anybody beat that ??

but tell me who was better last year ???
agn5009 wrote:
In my opinion? No one other than Dungey can compare to him last year. In Joe schmoes opinion? Maybe he thinks someone else. Point is, your...
In my opinion? No one other than Dungey can compare to him last year. In Joe schmoes opinion? Maybe he thinks someone else. Point is, your opinion is not a fact. Febvre didn't line up against the best in the AMA. Dungey didn't line up against the best in the GP's. It's impossible for them to do both series. Thus, it is impossible to say who is better over the course of an entire series. Anyone saying anything different is stating their opinion. Do I believe Febvre would beat Dungey on most GP tracks? Yes, of course. Do I believe Dungey would beat Febvre on most AMA tracks? Yes, of course. Your opinion means nothing. It is not supported by a single fact.
Well said
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agn5009 wrote:
In my opinion? No one other than Dungey can compare to him last year. In Joe schmoes opinion? Maybe he thinks someone else. Point is, your...
In my opinion? No one other than Dungey can compare to him last year. In Joe schmoes opinion? Maybe he thinks someone else. Point is, your opinion is not a fact. Febvre didn't line up against the best in the AMA. Dungey didn't line up against the best in the GP's. It's impossible for them to do both series. Thus, it is impossible to say who is better over the course of an entire series. Anyone saying anything different is stating their opinion. Do I believe Febvre would beat Dungey on most GP tracks? Yes, of course. Do I believe Dungey would beat Febvre on most AMA tracks? Yes, of course. Your opinion means nothing. It is not supported by a single fact.
RichardLoots wrote:
oh come on , Febvre was the one lining up at a US GP and won , where was Dungey ?? Febvre lined up at MXON...
oh come on , Febvre was the one lining up at a US GP and won , where was Dungey ??
Febvre lined up at MXON and won against youre AMA MX riders and the rest of the world .....where was Dungey ??


so based on the fact he is american and won a national title in MX he is the best of 2016 , Dungey was the best Laughing

youre pretty awesome with youre facts .......... typical topic response for a US based forum , not surprised at all

have a nice day ..... Dungey is one of the best , totally agree .
How on earth did you get that from what he just said?
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agn5009 5/6/2016 9:49am
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agn5009 wrote:
In my opinion? No one other than Dungey can compare to him last year. In Joe schmoes opinion? Maybe he thinks someone else. Point is, your...
In my opinion? No one other than Dungey can compare to him last year. In Joe schmoes opinion? Maybe he thinks someone else. Point is, your opinion is not a fact. Febvre didn't line up against the best in the AMA. Dungey didn't line up against the best in the GP's. It's impossible for them to do both series. Thus, it is impossible to say who is better over the course of an entire series. Anyone saying anything different is stating their opinion. Do I believe Febvre would beat Dungey on most GP tracks? Yes, of course. Do I believe Dungey would beat Febvre on most AMA tracks? Yes, of course. Your opinion means nothing. It is not supported by a single fact.
RichardLoots wrote:
oh come on , Febvre was the one lining up at a US GP and won , where was Dungey ?? Febvre lined up at MXON...
oh come on , Febvre was the one lining up at a US GP and won , where was Dungey ??
Febvre lined up at MXON and won against youre AMA MX riders and the rest of the world .....where was Dungey ??


so based on the fact he is american and won a national title in MX he is the best of 2016 , Dungey was the best Laughing

youre pretty awesome with youre facts .......... typical topic response for a US based forum , not surprised at all

have a nice day ..... Dungey is one of the best , totally agree .
RG1 wrote:
How on earth did you get that from what he just said?
Can't talk to stupid people. Clearly he either struggles with reading comprehension or he just wants to argue. Either way, I have no interest in engaging.
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agn5009 wrote:
In my opinion? No one other than Dungey can compare to him last year. In Joe schmoes opinion? Maybe he thinks someone else. Point is, your...
In my opinion? No one other than Dungey can compare to him last year. In Joe schmoes opinion? Maybe he thinks someone else. Point is, your opinion is not a fact. Febvre didn't line up against the best in the AMA. Dungey didn't line up against the best in the GP's. It's impossible for them to do both series. Thus, it is impossible to say who is better over the course of an entire series. Anyone saying anything different is stating their opinion. Do I believe Febvre would beat Dungey on most GP tracks? Yes, of course. Do I believe Dungey would beat Febvre on most AMA tracks? Yes, of course. Your opinion means nothing. It is not supported by a single fact.
RichardLoots wrote:
oh come on , Febvre was the one lining up at a US GP and won , where was Dungey ?? Febvre lined up at MXON...
oh come on , Febvre was the one lining up at a US GP and won , where was Dungey ??
Febvre lined up at MXON and won against youre AMA MX riders and the rest of the world .....where was Dungey ??


so based on the fact he is american and won a national title in MX he is the best of 2016 , Dungey was the best Laughing

youre pretty awesome with youre facts .......... typical topic response for a US based forum , not surprised at all

have a nice day ..... Dungey is one of the best , totally agree .
RG1 wrote:
How on earth did you get that from what he just said?
I gotta agree with Agn on this. Very well said. Roczen , Dungey , Febvre....all badass dudes in their own right. It just depends on where they race and who's " feeling it " that day. Over a 17 - 20 round schedule.....who know who would win what?

I'm a fan of all of them.....so I couldn't care less honestly.
RichardLoots 5/6/2016 9:55am
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agn5009 wrote:
Can't talk to stupid people. Clearly he either struggles with reading comprehension or he just wants to argue. Either way, I have no interest in engaging.
oh boy here we go , stupid people he .Laughing typical response again

have a nice day im not going that way , i left school decades ago ...

you were right about the fact ....cant be a fact , it was my opinion based on results ..
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RichardLoots wrote:
oh come on , Febvre was the one lining up at a US GP and won , where was Dungey ?? Febvre lined up at MXON...
oh come on , Febvre was the one lining up at a US GP and won , where was Dungey ??
Febvre lined up at MXON and won against youre AMA MX riders and the rest of the world .....where was Dungey ??


so based on the fact he is american and won a national title in MX he is the best of 2016 , Dungey was the best Laughing

youre pretty awesome with youre facts .......... typical topic response for a US based forum , not surprised at all

have a nice day ..... Dungey is one of the best , totally agree .
RG1 wrote:
How on earth did you get that from what he just said?
agn5009 wrote:
Can't talk to stupid people. Clearly he either struggles with reading comprehension or he just wants to argue. Either way, I have no interest in engaging.
Google translate is acting up again Laughing
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home skillet 5/6/2016 9:58am
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It's kindof funny to read these threads, it's all about our rider is better then yours or vice versa, like little kids playing with their hot wheelz or tonka cars.
when you put things into perspective it's guys riding dirt bikes for our entertainment.
RichardLoots 5/6/2016 10:06am
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home skillet wrote:
It's kindof funny to read these threads, it's all about our rider is better then yours or vice versa, like little kids playing with their hot...
It's kindof funny to read these threads, it's all about our rider is better then yours or vice versa, like little kids playing with their hot wheelz or tonka cars.
when you put things into perspective it's guys riding dirt bikes for our entertainment.
not really , Febvre isnt my rider , not a fan either ..... but in my opinion based on results and races Febvre was better last year as Dungey ....... just because i called it a fact , mister has to go all wild about it Laughing Laughing

he said himself ....Dungey would beat all of the GP guys at an AMA track ....

oh really ? based on what ??
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home skillet 5/6/2016 10:13am
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home skillet wrote:
It's kindof funny to read these threads, it's all about our rider is better then yours or vice versa, like little kids playing with their hot...
It's kindof funny to read these threads, it's all about our rider is better then yours or vice versa, like little kids playing with their hot wheelz or tonka cars.
when you put things into perspective it's guys riding dirt bikes for our entertainment.
RichardLoots wrote:
not really , Febvre isnt my rider , not a fan either ..... but in my opinion based on results and races Febvre was better last...
not really , Febvre isnt my rider , not a fan either ..... but in my opinion based on results and races Febvre was better last year as Dungey ....... just because i called it a fact , mister has to go all wild about it Laughing Laughing

he said himself ....Dungey would beat all of the GP guys at an AMA track ....

oh really ? based on what ??
Mijn knikkers zijn mooier dan die van jouw! Laughing Laughing
I don't take any of this to seriously, it's just a sport.
RichardLoots 5/6/2016 10:18am
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home skillet wrote:
Mijn knikkers zijn mooier dan die van jouw! Laughing Laughing
I don't take any of this to seriously, it's just a sport.
jouw knikkers zijn de mooiste ....Laughing Laughing

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Stefan82 5/6/2016 11:26am
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Moens_Andy wrote:
race is from 2012 if you think he's any slower now think again

race 1 http://www.mylaps.com/nl/classification/2468597
race 2 http://www.mylaps.com/nl/classification/2468900
race 3 http://www.mylaps.com/nl/classification/2469572

He raced MX2 and MX1 and won all four motos in an afternoon at Harfsen in 2012.

MX2
Moto1 http://www.mylaps.com/nl/classification/2513322
- lapped up to 9th

Moto2 http://www.mylaps.com/nl/classification/2513323
- lapped the whole field

MX1
Moto1 http://www.mylaps.com/nl/classification/2513316
- lapped the whole field

Moto2 http://www.mylaps.com/nl/classification/2513317
- lapped up to 3rd

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agn5009 wrote:
In my opinion? No one other than Dungey can compare to him last year. In Joe schmoes opinion? Maybe he thinks someone else. Point is, your...
In my opinion? No one other than Dungey can compare to him last year. In Joe schmoes opinion? Maybe he thinks someone else. Point is, your opinion is not a fact. Febvre didn't line up against the best in the AMA. Dungey didn't line up against the best in the GP's. It's impossible for them to do both series. Thus, it is impossible to say who is better over the course of an entire series. Anyone saying anything different is stating their opinion. Do I believe Febvre would beat Dungey on most GP tracks? Yes, of course. Do I believe Dungey would beat Febvre on most AMA tracks? Yes, of course. Your opinion means nothing. It is not supported by a single fact.
RichardLoots wrote:
oh come on , Febvre was the one lining up at a US GP and won , where was Dungey ?? Febvre lined up at MXON...
oh come on , Febvre was the one lining up at a US GP and won , where was Dungey ??
Febvre lined up at MXON and won against youre AMA MX riders and the rest of the world .....where was Dungey ??


so based on the fact he is american and won a national title in MX he is the best of 2016 , Dungey was the best Laughing

youre pretty awesome with youre facts .......... typical topic response for a US based forum , not surprised at all

have a nice day ..... Dungey is one of the best , totally agree .
RG1 wrote:
How on earth did you get that from what he just said?
He's an idiot.
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
He's an idiot.
Fair point

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brimx153 5/6/2016 12:21pm
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i actully think the way all the tracks are ripped up in the US would suit Herlings even more than the mxgp tracks bar sand one of course
RichardLoots 5/6/2016 1:30pm
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
He's an idiot.
little wanker , who asked you anything? Tongue f..off
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Paul333 5/7/2016 10:57am
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home skillet wrote:
It's kindof funny to read these threads, it's all about our rider is better then yours or vice versa, like little kids playing with their hot...
It's kindof funny to read these threads, it's all about our rider is better then yours or vice versa, like little kids playing with their hot wheelz or tonka cars.
when you put things into perspective it's guys riding dirt bikes for our entertainment.
RichardLoots wrote:
not really , Febvre isnt my rider , not a fan either ..... but in my opinion based on results and races Febvre was better last...
not really , Febvre isnt my rider , not a fan either ..... but in my opinion based on results and races Febvre was better last year as Dungey ....... just because i called it a fact , mister has to go all wild about it Laughing Laughing

he said himself ....Dungey would beat all of the GP guys at an AMA track ....

oh really ? based on what ??
Febvre was obviously the best rider in GP racing last year, no question about it. Winning the MX1 championship, many individual GP's, etc proves that without question.

Sadly he never faced Dungey so we will never know who would have won.

Dungey won both our 450 championships but after pushing hard for so many years racing our full series, Monster Cup, and MXoN he stated early he was taking a break and not racing the USGP or MXoN.

In fact none of our top 450 riders rode the USGP witch I agree is wrong. Hopefully with this much time they will have figured things out for this year. Josh Grant a fill in U.S. factory team rider seemed to have Febrve speed though...

RichardLoots 5/7/2016 11:10am
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Paul333 wrote:
Febvre was obviously the best rider in GP racing last year, no question about it. Winning the MX1 championship, many individual GP's, etc proves that without...
Febvre was obviously the best rider in GP racing last year, no question about it. Winning the MX1 championship, many individual GP's, etc proves that without question.

Sadly he never faced Dungey so we will never know who would have won.

Dungey won both our 450 championships but after pushing hard for so many years racing our full series, Monster Cup, and MXoN he stated early he was taking a break and not racing the USGP or MXoN.

In fact none of our top 450 riders rode the USGP witch I agree is wrong. Hopefully with this much time they will have figured things out for this year. Josh Grant a fill in U.S. factory team rider seemed to have Febrve speed though...

agree Paul , but you also know Grant isnt just a fill in at Glen helen Wink
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MXMattii 5/7/2016 3:46pm
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Roczen isn't a match for Herlings. That explains why Herlings lost that championship against that German.

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