Crazy Rumor: Barcia to MXGP!

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pmcc 4/27/2016 1:41am
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51xc wrote:
barcia won the overall in his mxon class every time he lined up and showed that he could beat the current mxgp champ at his home...
barcia won the overall in his mxon class every time he lined up and showed that he could beat the current mxgp champ at his home track at this years mxon. finishing 3rd in points at last years mx is not to shabby as well. so if you think he would not get a damn good deal with a factory team that pays very good money, then i don't know. especially with mxgp start having indoor events like the one in germany this year. plus he could race king of bercy, genova sx etc.

no idea about jgr's future but i don't see them disappear any time soon.
Unsure Febvre beat barcia in the one moto they raced
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What if JGR turned their main focus to MXGP? Would they do that since they seem to be getting shafted by Yamaha in the states with them signing Cooper without telling JGR
RichardLoots 4/27/2016 4:12am
4/27/2016 4:12am Edited Date/Time 4/27/2016 4:14am
51xc wrote:
barcia won the overall in his mxon class every time he lined up and showed that he could beat the current mxgp champ at his home...
barcia won the overall in his mxon class every time he lined up and showed that he could beat the current mxgp champ at his home track at this years mxon. finishing 3rd in points at last years mx is not to shabby as well. so if you think he would not get a damn good deal with a factory team that pays very good money, then i don't know. especially with mxgp start having indoor events like the one in germany this year. plus he could race king of bercy, genova sx etc.

no idea about jgr's future but i don't see them disappear any time soon.
based on MXON results , RV would be MXGP champ , Townley would be at least top 3 in current standings ........


btw Febvre beat him


i hope he gives it a shot , i think he would do well in MXGP but needs at least 2 year contract
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51xc 4/27/2016 2:22pm
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barcia won the overall in his mxon class every time he lined up and showed that he could beat the current mxgp champ at his home...
barcia won the overall in his mxon class every time he lined up and showed that he could beat the current mxgp champ at his home track at this years mxon. finishing 3rd in points at last years mx is not to shabby as well. so if you think he would not get a damn good deal with a factory team that pays very good money, then i don't know. especially with mxgp start having indoor events like the one in germany this year. plus he could race king of bercy, genova sx etc.

no idea about jgr's future but i don't see them disappear any time soon.
pmcc wrote:
Unsure Febvre beat barcia in the one moto they raced
true, my mistake.

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MXMattii 4/27/2016 2:29pm
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No place for him in the GP's. Suzuki? Everts would not tolerate him after this years fiasco with Townley and having to rebuild again next year...
No place for him in the GP's. Suzuki? Everts would not tolerate him after this years fiasco with Townley and having to rebuild again next year, you are talking about Stefan, not a nice also ran type boss. KRS, full, HRC, overflowing, KTM, forget it. Husky, they get the picks of the litter, Yamaha, full. TM might need a MXGP rider and a unproven star might be what they are looking for, but the budget and being based in Italy and the attitude & language could be a potential conflict area. Best for him to stay in his well paid comfort zone and dream.
You're not well informed I guess. Yamaha isn't full because Van Horebeek and Valentin Guillod are only signed till the end of 2016. Also both Gautier Paulin and Evgeny Bobrysev are at the end of their contracts with the HRC team. Everybody expects that Bobry can stay with Tim Gasjer on his side. But rumors are also going around that Ken Roczen and Tim Gasjer will be the AMA line-up and then HRC is in need to (re)sign a big name. Maybe some extra seasons with Paulin or Barcia?!

KRT Kawasaki has with Tixier and Desalle also their riders for 2017. Dunno what KTM will do, they resigned Tony Cairoli but are they gonna put Herlings besides him? Are they gonna keep Coldenhoff or are they gonna pick an other guy? Dunno. Husqvarna will be Nagl - Anstie and possible Charlier with backup from Husqvarna France.
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Tpog496 4/27/2016 2:46pm
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No place for him in the GP's. Suzuki? Everts would not tolerate him after this years fiasco with Townley and having to rebuild again next year...
No place for him in the GP's. Suzuki? Everts would not tolerate him after this years fiasco with Townley and having to rebuild again next year, you are talking about Stefan, not a nice also ran type boss. KRS, full, HRC, overflowing, KTM, forget it. Husky, they get the picks of the litter, Yamaha, full. TM might need a MXGP rider and a unproven star might be what they are looking for, but the budget and being based in Italy and the attitude & language could be a potential conflict area. Best for him to stay in his well paid comfort zone and dream.
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You're not well informed I guess. Yamaha isn't full because Van Horebeek and Valentin Guillod are only signed till the end of 2016. Also both Gautier...
You're not well informed I guess. Yamaha isn't full because Van Horebeek and Valentin Guillod are only signed till the end of 2016. Also both Gautier Paulin and Evgeny Bobrysev are at the end of their contracts with the HRC team. Everybody expects that Bobry can stay with Tim Gasjer on his side. But rumors are also going around that Ken Roczen and Tim Gasjer will be the AMA line-up and then HRC is in need to (re)sign a big name. Maybe some extra seasons with Paulin or Barcia?!

KRT Kawasaki has with Tixier and Desalle also their riders for 2017. Dunno what KTM will do, they resigned Tony Cairoli but are they gonna put Herlings besides him? Are they gonna keep Coldenhoff or are they gonna pick an other guy? Dunno. Husqvarna will be Nagl - Anstie and possible Charlier with backup from Husqvarna France.
The Source just got out sourced!
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Motofinne 4/27/2016 3:56pm
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Well Ice One needs to ditch Charlier. There are many riders that would do way better than him on a factory Husqvarna, i never understood why they went for him in the first place.
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MXMattii 4/27/2016 4:30pm
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Well Ice One needs to ditch Charlier. There are many riders that would do way better than him on a factory Husqvarna, i never understood why...
Well Ice One needs to ditch Charlier. There are many riders that would do way better than him on a factory Husqvarna, i never understood why they went for him in the first place.
He got personal sponsors to back him up and that makes him cheap to hire. Do you know what I mean? But I'm agreeing with you for 101%. I would've stayed with Todd Waters.
The Source 4/27/2016 5:01pm
4/27/2016 5:01pm Edited Date/Time 4/27/2016 5:04pm
The Source wrote:
No place for him in the GP's. Suzuki? Everts would not tolerate him after this years fiasco with Townley and having to rebuild again next year...
No place for him in the GP's. Suzuki? Everts would not tolerate him after this years fiasco with Townley and having to rebuild again next year, you are talking about Stefan, not a nice also ran type boss. KRS, full, HRC, overflowing, KTM, forget it. Husky, they get the picks of the litter, Yamaha, full. TM might need a MXGP rider and a unproven star might be what they are looking for, but the budget and being based in Italy and the attitude & language could be a potential conflict area. Best for him to stay in his well paid comfort zone and dream.
MXMattii wrote:
You're not well informed I guess. Yamaha isn't full because Van Horebeek and Valentin Guillod are only signed till the end of 2016. Also both Gautier...
You're not well informed I guess. Yamaha isn't full because Van Horebeek and Valentin Guillod are only signed till the end of 2016. Also both Gautier Paulin and Evgeny Bobrysev are at the end of their contracts with the HRC team. Everybody expects that Bobry can stay with Tim Gasjer on his side. But rumors are also going around that Ken Roczen and Tim Gasjer will be the AMA line-up and then HRC is in need to (re)sign a big name. Maybe some extra seasons with Paulin or Barcia?!

KRT Kawasaki has with Tixier and Desalle also their riders for 2017. Dunno what KTM will do, they resigned Tony Cairoli but are they gonna put Herlings besides him? Are they gonna keep Coldenhoff or are they gonna pick an other guy? Dunno. Husqvarna will be Nagl - Anstie and possible Charlier with backup from Husqvarna France.
I can see Gulliod getting the axe, Jeremy will be staying you should know that. Bobby is pretty well set and proving himself, Gautier is a question agreed. I thought Tim was a signed and sealed 5 year iron clad contract?
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PastranaWho 4/27/2016 5:17pm
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Never seen or heard a interview of gajser having interest in racing in america, guess i missed it. A barcia to GPs is kind of hard to believe, i just dont see it.
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DonM 4/27/2016 5:54pm
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The Source wrote:
No place for him in the GP's. Suzuki? Everts would not tolerate him after this years fiasco with Townley and having to rebuild again next year...
No place for him in the GP's. Suzuki? Everts would not tolerate him after this years fiasco with Townley and having to rebuild again next year, you are talking about Stefan, not a nice also ran type boss. KRS, full, HRC, overflowing, KTM, forget it. Husky, they get the picks of the litter, Yamaha, full. TM might need a MXGP rider and a unproven star might be what they are looking for, but the budget and being based in Italy and the attitude & language could be a potential conflict area. Best for him to stay in his well paid comfort zone and dream.
MXMattii wrote:
You're not well informed I guess. Yamaha isn't full because Van Horebeek and Valentin Guillod are only signed till the end of 2016. Also both Gautier...
You're not well informed I guess. Yamaha isn't full because Van Horebeek and Valentin Guillod are only signed till the end of 2016. Also both Gautier Paulin and Evgeny Bobrysev are at the end of their contracts with the HRC team. Everybody expects that Bobry can stay with Tim Gasjer on his side. But rumors are also going around that Ken Roczen and Tim Gasjer will be the AMA line-up and then HRC is in need to (re)sign a big name. Maybe some extra seasons with Paulin or Barcia?!

KRT Kawasaki has with Tixier and Desalle also their riders for 2017. Dunno what KTM will do, they resigned Tony Cairoli but are they gonna put Herlings besides him? Are they gonna keep Coldenhoff or are they gonna pick an other guy? Dunno. Husqvarna will be Nagl - Anstie and possible Charlier with backup from Husqvarna France.
Tpog496 wrote:
The Source just got out sourced!
The Source is no source....He just hates anything american...Almost like a Geoff alter ego....
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DonM wrote:
The Source is no source....He just hates anything american...Almost like a Geoff alter ego....
Almost? Whistling
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DonM 4/27/2016 5:59pm
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DonM wrote:
The Source is no source....He just hates anything american...Almost like a Geoff alter ego....
avidchimp wrote:
Almost? Whistling
Smile Smile Smile
The Source 4/27/2016 7:44pm
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MXMattii wrote:
You're not well informed I guess. Yamaha isn't full because Van Horebeek and Valentin Guillod are only signed till the end of 2016. Also both Gautier...
You're not well informed I guess. Yamaha isn't full because Van Horebeek and Valentin Guillod are only signed till the end of 2016. Also both Gautier Paulin and Evgeny Bobrysev are at the end of their contracts with the HRC team. Everybody expects that Bobry can stay with Tim Gasjer on his side. But rumors are also going around that Ken Roczen and Tim Gasjer will be the AMA line-up and then HRC is in need to (re)sign a big name. Maybe some extra seasons with Paulin or Barcia?!

KRT Kawasaki has with Tixier and Desalle also their riders for 2017. Dunno what KTM will do, they resigned Tony Cairoli but are they gonna put Herlings besides him? Are they gonna keep Coldenhoff or are they gonna pick an other guy? Dunno. Husqvarna will be Nagl - Anstie and possible Charlier with backup from Husqvarna France.
Tpog496 wrote:
The Source just got out sourced!
DonM wrote:
The Source is no source....He just hates anything american...Almost like a Geoff alter ego....
I don't agree with Geoff on many things and I don't hate everything American. American outdoors mx is great. I feel that American riders should be content with staying in their comfort zone bubble and the GP riders in their environment. 2 different mentalities and racing. There are many GP riders crossing the pond and being successful but not the other way around. Both series have their merits. The MXoN showcases the outstanding talent worldwide.
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avidchimp 4/27/2016 10:58pm
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Tpog496 wrote:
The Source just got out sourced!
DonM wrote:
The Source is no source....He just hates anything american...Almost like a Geoff alter ego....
The Source wrote:
I don't agree with Geoff on many things and I don't hate everything American. American outdoors mx is great. I feel that American riders should be...
I don't agree with Geoff on many things and I don't hate everything American. American outdoors mx is great. I feel that American riders should be content with staying in their comfort zone bubble and the GP riders in their environment. 2 different mentalities and racing. There are many GP riders crossing the pond and being successful but not the other way around. Both series have their merits. The MXoN showcases the outstanding talent worldwide.
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JackLHyde 4/27/2016 11:40pm
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blueracer wrote:
What if JGR turned their main focus to MXGP? Would they do that since they seem to be getting shafted by Yamaha in the states with...
What if JGR turned their main focus to MXGP? Would they do that since they seem to be getting shafted by Yamaha in the states with them signing Cooper without telling JGR
Never ever gonna happen. They are as american as it gets.
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Motofinne 4/28/2016 1:20am
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Motofinne wrote:
Well Ice One needs to ditch Charlier. There are many riders that would do way better than him on a factory Husqvarna, i never understood why...
Well Ice One needs to ditch Charlier. There are many riders that would do way better than him on a factory Husqvarna, i never understood why they went for him in the first place.
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He got personal sponsors to back him up and that makes him cheap to hire. Do you know what I mean? But I'm agreeing with you...
He got personal sponsors to back him up and that makes him cheap to hire. Do you know what I mean? But I'm agreeing with you for 101%. I would've stayed with Todd Waters.
Yeah i figured that. It just sucks to see a factory Husqvarna ride go to waste...
joshua.cowin 4/28/2016 2:08am
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He will just get chewed up and spat out like rv did

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Tpog496 4/28/2016 6:23am
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joshua.cowin wrote:
He will just get chewed up and spat out like rv did
Leave it to the Euros to start talking shit.
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davistld01 4/28/2016 7:02am
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joshua.cowin wrote:
He will just get chewed up and spat out like rv did
Yeah, I know that's stink bait...but RV hardly got "chewed up and spat out" as you so originally stated. Had it not been for a fluke of a loopout that left him injured, anyone that has any real sense (that may or may not include you) could see that he would have been a true challenger for the World Championship. Shit happens.

By the way...when's the last time a Brit has even been close to a Championship? I mean MX1 or MX2?

It's cool...I'll wait...
crusty_xx 4/28/2016 7:24am
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I can see Gulliod getting the axe, Jeremy will be staying you should know that. Bobby is pretty well set and proving himself, Gautier is a...
I can see Gulliod getting the axe, Jeremy will be staying you should know that. Bobby is pretty well set and proving himself, Gautier is a question agreed. I thought Tim was a signed and sealed 5 year iron clad contract?
That contract is with Honda. But it doesn't say he needed to stay in Europe for all those years. He will most probably leave to the US in 2017 or 2018.
crusty_xx 4/28/2016 7:31am
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51xc wrote:
barcia won the overall in his mxon class every time he lined up and showed that he could beat the current mxgp champ at his home...
barcia won the overall in his mxon class every time he lined up and showed that he could beat the current mxgp champ at his home track at this years mxon. finishing 3rd in points at last years mx is not to shabby as well. so if you think he would not get a damn good deal with a factory team that pays very good money, then i don't know. especially with mxgp start having indoor events like the one in germany this year. plus he could race king of bercy, genova sx etc.

no idea about jgr's future but i don't see them disappear any time soon.
pmcc wrote:
Unsure Febvre beat barcia in the one moto they raced
51xc wrote:
true, my mistake.
Actually apart from Tomac and maybe Webb I believe Barcia has the best shot of any American to go to Europe and do good (even in his first year).

He did great at all the mxdn races he's done so far.
Even at Lommel in the last moto of the weekend (it doesn't get any more sandy and beat up than in that race) he was third behind Herlings and Cairoli.
He's good at fast tracks, good at tighter tracks (Ernée, Teutschenthal), good in the sand and we know that he likes the mud as well.
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MXMattii 4/28/2016 9:14am
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I can see Gulliod getting the axe, Jeremy will be staying you should know that. Bobby is pretty well set and proving himself, Gautier is a...
I can see Gulliod getting the axe, Jeremy will be staying you should know that. Bobby is pretty well set and proving himself, Gautier is a question agreed. I thought Tim was a signed and sealed 5 year iron clad contract?
crusty_xx wrote:
That contract is with Honda. But it doesn't say he needed to stay in Europe for all those years. He will most probably leave to the...
That contract is with Honda. But it doesn't say he needed to stay in Europe for all those years. He will most probably leave to the US in 2017 or 2018.
Gautier Paulin to Honda - This Saturday Gautier Paulin made an important decision and signed a two year deal with HRC Honda Factory Team to ride in 2015 and 2016 MXGP’s.

Van Horebeek stays blue for 2016! - Staying? I heard he would can be Yellow next season. But I know nothing.

MX2: Tim Gasjer Contracted to Honda through 2020 - I was at that press conference in Lommel and their they also spoke about a possible SX250 West schedule in 2016, but his world championship in the MX2 class and his decision to step up to the MXGP made this undone.

Websites as DirtRider and of course MxLarge talked about it.
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joshua.cowin wrote:
He will just get chewed up and spat out like rv did
davistld01 wrote:
Yeah, I know that's stink bait...but RV hardly got "chewed up and spat out" as you so originally stated. Had it not been for a fluke...
Yeah, I know that's stink bait...but RV hardly got "chewed up and spat out" as you so originally stated. Had it not been for a fluke of a loopout that left him injured, anyone that has any real sense (that may or may not include you) could see that he would have been a true challenger for the World Championship. Shit happens.

By the way...when's the last time a Brit has even been close to a Championship? I mean MX1 or MX2?

It's cool...I'll wait...
Twice Tommy Searle came 2nd in the MX2 standings.

1st time in 2008 he was 23pts down on Tyla Rattrey & the 2nd time was 2012 and he was 43 puts behind Jeffrey Herlings.
The Source 4/28/2016 1:13pm
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MXMattii wrote:
[url=http://mxdose.com/mxdose/gautier-paulin-to-honda/]Gautier Paulin to Honda - [i]This Saturday Gautier Paulin made an important decision and signed a two year deal with HRC Honda Factory Team to ride...
Gautier Paulin to Honda - This Saturday Gautier Paulin made an important decision and signed a two year deal with HRC Honda Factory Team to ride in 2015 and 2016 MXGP’s.

Van Horebeek stays blue for 2016! - Staying? I heard he would can be Yellow next season. But I know nothing.

MX2: Tim Gasjer Contracted to Honda through 2020 - I was at that press conference in Lommel and their they also spoke about a possible SX250 West schedule in 2016, but his world championship in the MX2 class and his decision to step up to the MXGP made this undone.

Websites as DirtRider and of course MxLarge talked about it.
Honda’s Roger Harvey said: “The contract has been left open. We can discuss Tim going to the USA to do some Supercross and train in the USA or go and do a National. We have the full co-operation of Honda US.”
Looks to say that Tim has the option to dabble in "some" SX and do "a" National. It seems as Tim "extended" his contact with Garibaldi a HRC team.
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c0ncEpT 4/28/2016 1:27pm
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I don't agree with Geoff on many things and I don't hate everything American. American outdoors mx is great. I feel that American riders should be...
I don't agree with Geoff on many things and I don't hate everything American. American outdoors mx is great. I feel that American riders should be content with staying in their comfort zone bubble and the GP riders in their environment. 2 different mentalities and racing. There are many GP riders crossing the pond and being successful but not the other way around. Both series have their merits. The MXoN showcases the outstanding talent worldwide.
With all due respect the American riders have no incentive to go over to the GP's in the prime of there careers. Thats why there haven't been any that have had much success "across the pond".

I not saying one series is better than the other but you cant take a shot like that when no one in the modern era has even made an attempt at it.

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The Source wrote:
Honda’s Roger Harvey said: “The contract has been left open. We can discuss Tim going to the USA to do some Supercross and train in the...
Honda’s Roger Harvey said: “The contract has been left open. We can discuss Tim going to the USA to do some Supercross and train in the USA or go and do a National. We have the full co-operation of Honda US.”
Looks to say that Tim has the option to dabble in "some" SX and do "a" National. It seems as Tim "extended" his contact with Garibaldi a HRC team.
I talked with Tim last weekend at Honda EMX150 camp and if everything goes as planned he will race the Monster Cup.
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MXMattii 4/28/2016 1:51pm
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The Source wrote:
Honda’s Roger Harvey said: “The contract has been left open. We can discuss Tim going to the USA to do some Supercross and train in the...
Honda’s Roger Harvey said: “The contract has been left open. We can discuss Tim going to the USA to do some Supercross and train in the USA or go and do a National. We have the full co-operation of Honda US.”
Looks to say that Tim has the option to dabble in "some" SX and do "a" National. It seems as Tim "extended" his contact with Garibaldi a HRC team.
I bet my nuts on it that he gets his paycheck from the same boss as Trey Canard, HRC.
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With all due respect the American riders have no incentive to go over to the GP's in the prime of there careers. Thats why there haven't...
With all due respect the American riders have no incentive to go over to the GP's in the prime of there careers. Thats why there haven't been any that have had much success "across the pond".

I not saying one series is better than the other but you cant take a shot like that when no one in the modern era has even made an attempt at it.

That is true.
The Source 4/28/2016 2:42pm
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The Source wrote:
Honda’s Roger Harvey said: “The contract has been left open. We can discuss Tim going to the USA to do some Supercross and train in the...
Honda’s Roger Harvey said: “The contract has been left open. We can discuss Tim going to the USA to do some Supercross and train in the USA or go and do a National. We have the full co-operation of Honda US.”
Looks to say that Tim has the option to dabble in "some" SX and do "a" National. It seems as Tim "extended" his contact with Garibaldi a HRC team.
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I bet my nuts on it that he gets his paycheck from the same boss as Trey Canard, HRC.
That was a direct quote from Tim's boss. Roger & HRC put a lot on the line with the maximum length contract HRC offers and it would seem they are grooming Tim for the MXGP HRC future with some dabbling in the USA to keep Tim happy but it's anyone's guess. 5 years is a lot of investment in the unknown future

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