Who likes spy photos?

Edited Date/Time 1/20/2012 11:34pm
I won't comment any further... but I like where things are going!

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Foster576
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Cool, wheels with no spokes! Thats trick!
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5/12/2009 1:34pm
Thats a pretty sweet looking 2010 YZ450F.....cant wait
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Reverse flow intake/exhaust, ala Cannondale?
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YEP... Blue is looking good for 2010... Its up to L&M and Gibbs because the Factory is OUT!!!

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5/12/2009 1:39pm
GuyB wrote:
Reverse flow intake/exhaust, ala Cannondale?
Didn't they have problems with the exhaust pipe heating up the rear shock causing it to fade? Im sure Big Blue has that end figured out though, man I can't wait to see this bike!
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5/12/2009 1:40pm
I won't comment any further... but I like where things are going! [img]http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/oldernYZer/us20080184961ki-002.jpg?t=1241807813[/img]
I won't comment any further... but I like where things are going!

Time for a new pipe bender eh?
5/12/2009 1:47pm
By the way, I stole this patent photo from a thread on Thumpertalk, someone went through the work to find this.

I had known the basics of this for awhile, but more and more has been slipping out lately... so I thought I would share from the TT thread.

GuyB, you must have heard the rumors, or is this new to you?

And remember the Japan nationals... where all the works bikes come out and play? Funny how a certain bike was an off the shelf model while everyone else had their "new" stuff!
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5/12/2009 1:49pm
I've just heard little bits. Can't wait to see the new stuff (I haven't yet), and you guys will see it as soon as I'm allowed to show it. Smile
5/12/2009 1:53pm
My guees is probably won't see any pics until July'ish, or for sure in Sept
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5/12/2009 2:03pm
I think the new Transworld has spy photos in it.
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That's one way to get a tunable length out of a rear mounted exhaust. Won't have any problem finding qualified pipe builders , plenty of them at the mall food courts across the country.Smile

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GuyB wrote:
Reverse flow intake/exhaust, ala Cannondale?
Didn't they have problems with the exhaust pipe heating up the rear shock causing it to fade? Im sure Big Blue has that end figured out...
Didn't they have problems with the exhaust pipe heating up the rear shock causing it to fade? Im sure Big Blue has that end figured out though, man I can't wait to see this bike!
I thought more of the problem was the air intake being up front.
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5/12/2009 5:27pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:53pm
6-7 years old Suzuki.


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5/12/2009 6:17pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:53pm
Wow! The patent is very interesting. Angled engine, fuel tank under the seat, fuel pump mounted to the frame, and possibly a dual injector setup like sport bikes!!

http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG0…

1. A vehicle comprising:a head pipe;an engine disposed with a cylinder axis thereof inclined rearward;a body frame located in front of the engine and extending downward from the head pipe;an intake pipe located between the body frame and the engine and extending obliquely upward from a forward side of the engine; anda fuel injector mounted to the intake pipe,wherein the intake pipe has a straight connecting part that is connected to the engine, and the fuel injector is mounted on a rearward side of the intake pipe relative to a forward side where the body frame is disposed

2. The vehicle according to claim 1, further comprising an air cleaner located in front of and above the engine, wherein the intake pipe includes a curved part located upstream of the connecting part of the intake pipe and an upstream part located upstream of the curved part and extending toward the air cleaner.

3. The vehicle according to claim 2, further comprising a fuel tank that extends rearward from the air cleaner and includes an upper overlying part that lies over an upper part of the air cleaner.

4. The vehicle according to claim 3, wherein the fuel tank includes a side overlying part that lies over a side part of the air cleaner.

5. The vehicle according to claim 3, further comprising a seat located above a rear part of the fuel tank.

6. The vehicle according to claim 1, further comprising:an exhaust pipe connected to a rearward side of the engine; anda silencer connected to the exhaust pipe above and behind the engine,wherein a part of the exhaust pipe connected to the silencer is higher than a part of the exhaust pipe connected to the engine.

7. The vehicle according to claim 6, wherein an axis of connection between the exhaust pipe and the silencer is higher than an axis of connection between the exhaust pipe and the engine.

8. The vehicle according to claim 6, wherein the exhaust pipe comprises:a straight connecting part connected to the engine; anda portion coupled with the connecting part and extending upward to the rear.

9. The vehicle according to claim 1, further comprising:a rear wheel; andan axle to which the rear wheel is rotatably mounted,wherein the exhaust pipe is higher than the axle.

10. The vehicle according to claim 1, further comprising:a rear wheel; anda rear arm for supporting the rear wheel,wherein the exhaust pipe is higher than the rear arm.

11. The vehicle according to claim 1, wherein the engine comprises:a crankcase;wherein the exhaust pipe is higher than the crankcase.

12. The vehicle according to claim 1, further comprising:a throttle valve provided within the connecting part to adjust an amount of air flowing through an interior of the intake pipe,wherein the fuel injector includes a first fuel injector mounted upstream of the throttle valve in the connecting part and a second fuel injector mounted downstream of the throttle valve in the connecting part.

13. The vehicle according to claim 1, further comprising:a main frame connected to a rear part of the head pipe and passing over the engine in a longitudinal direction;a fuel tank located above the main frame; anda fuel pump for supplying fuel from the fuel tank to the fuel injector, whereinthe fuel tank includes a recess formed into a concave shape extending upward from a bottom of the fuel tank, andthe fuel pump is accommodated in the recess.

14. The vehicle according to claim 13, wherein the fuel injector is forward of the fuel pump.

15. The vehicle according to claim 13, further comprising:a first hose connected to the fuel pump; anda second hose connected to the fuel injector.

16. The vehicle according to claim 15, further comprising:a hose connecting part connecting the first and second hoses; anda protective member mounted to the main frame to cover the hose connecting part.

17. The vehicle according to claim 16, wherein:the hose connecting part includes a first hose connecting part connectable to a second hose connecting part,the protective member includes a one-side protective member engageable with an other-side protective member, andthe one-side protective member can be engaged with the other-side protective member only when the first and second hose connecting parts are connected in a normal state.

18. The vehicle according to claim 1, wherein the vehicle is an off-road motorcycle.
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5/15/2009 10:46am
very interesting.
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sledneck, what are those silver caps in the photo between the plugs and the exhaust? some sort of electric powervalve? seems to be just above the exhaust port... if not, it could possibly be sensors? they look like o2 sensors...
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I always wondered which team was going to change their team color to 'clear.' Yamaha is genius. I can just hear Ralph saying," and here comes Stewart on that clear #1 bike."
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mxracer32 wrote:
sledneck, what are those silver caps in the photo between the plugs and the exhaust? some sort of electric powervalve? seems to be just above the...
sledneck, what are those silver caps in the photo between the plugs and the exhaust? some sort of electric powervalve? seems to be just above the exhaust port... if not, it could possibly be sensors? they look like o2 sensors...
servo controlled power valves.

Its too bad that the MX industry got away from developing 2 strokes. Some good stuff still going on with Arctic Cat and Skid-Doo
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mxracer32 wrote:
sledneck, what are those silver caps in the photo between the plugs and the exhaust? some sort of electric powervalve? seems to be just above the...
sledneck, what are those silver caps in the photo between the plugs and the exhaust? some sort of electric powervalve? seems to be just above the exhaust port... if not, it could possibly be sensors? they look like o2 sensors...
AMA714 wrote:
servo controlled power valves. Its too bad that the MX industry got away from developing 2 strokes. Some good stuff still going on with Arctic Cat...
servo controlled power valves.

Its too bad that the MX industry got away from developing 2 strokes. Some good stuff still going on with Arctic Cat and Skid-Doo
And Polaris's /Liberty/Fujis Cleanfire injection.

"Skid-Doo" Woohoo
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Jesse opens his X-Mas presents on the 24th too.
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So I guess it will be air cooled? LOL
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Foster576 wrote:
Cool, wheels with no spokes! Thats trick!
They are all bended and spreaded out all over the bike with numbers besides them?
maybe it is to confuse other factorys.
5/15/2009 5:15pm
Foster576 wrote:
Cool, wheels with no spokes! Thats trick!
mosslander wrote:
They are all bended and spreaded out all over the bike with numbers besides them?
maybe it is to confuse other factorys.
or maybe they have a hydrospoletra system. For lameman bike with no spokes.
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kinda looks like the old cannondale, those bikes were before there time! only if they would have held up and not broke down ever time you rode it......
5/15/2009 6:06pm
By the way, I stole this patent photo from a thread on Thumpertalk, someone went through the work to find this. I had known the basics...
By the way, I stole this patent photo from a thread on Thumpertalk, someone went through the work to find this.

I had known the basics of this for awhile, but more and more has been slipping out lately... so I thought I would share from the TT thread.

GuyB, you must have heard the rumors, or is this new to you?

And remember the Japan nationals... where all the works bikes come out and play? Funny how a certain bike was an off the shelf model while everyone else had their "new" stuff!
I think the reason a trick Factory Yamaha wasn't in Japan is because the team pulled the plug on the effort for now, and Akira Narita was funded by Yamaha Sports Plaza, riding an '08 frame. There is a reason for that, not just the economy why they didn't show up.

Tiki, the new Yamaha isn't in the TWMX, just Narita's bike with some Rinaldi mods and leftover works parts.
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Boring...
Looks like another high maintenance noisy toy.
where are the Japanese E-bikes?

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bobby397 wrote:
kinda looks like the old cannondale, those bikes were before there time! only if they would have held up and not broke down ever time you...
kinda looks like the old cannondale, those bikes were before there time! only if they would have held up and not broke down ever time you rode it......
If only they'd paid enough to get the best people (including test riders) working on the project....you get what you pay for.

They also rushed through the prototype stage and went right to production.....fatal mistake.
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5/17/2009 7:46pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:57pm
I guess the patent number on the side is legit to search, so (WOW):

Vehicle


Abstract
A vehicle has a body frame that does not interfere with an injector. A down tube extends downward to the rear. An engine is disposed with its cylinder axis inclined rearward. An intake pipe located between the down tube and the engine extends obliquely upward from a forward side of the engine. A fuel injector is attached to the intake pipe. The intake pipe includes a straight throttle body connected to the engine. The fuel injector is mounted on a rearward side of the throttle body relative to a forward side where the down tube is disposed.


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Inventors: MIYASHIRO; Shidehiko; (Shizuoka, JP)
Correspondence Name and Address: HOGAN & HARTSON L.L.P.
1999 AVENUE OF THE STARS, SUITE 1400
LOS ANGELES
CA
90067
US


Assignee Name and Adress: YAMAHA HATSUDOKI KABUSHIKI KAISHA
Iwata-shi
JP


Serial No.: 024862
Series Code: 12
Filed: February 1, 2008

U.S. Current Class: 123/445
U.S. Class at Publication: 123/445
Intern'l Class: F02M 39/00 20060101 F02M039/00



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Foreign Application Data

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Date Code Application Number
Feb 1, 2007 JP 2007-022580
Jan 10, 2008 JP 2008-003727
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5/17/2009 7:47pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:57pm
Oh, & there was more.
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ImTheDude wrote:
Boring...
Looks like another high maintenance noisy toy.
where are the Japanese E-bikes?

Can't wait to hear what the OTD price will be if indeed it comes to fruition.

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