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a great top notch rider on a stock scooter will always win in todays and even yesterdays environment. you are a LOSERS if you think otherwise Mom and Dad.
Go play baseball before it's too late dumbshits.
a great top notch rider on a stock scooter will always win in todays and even yesterdays environment. you are a LOSERS if you think otherwise Mom and Dad.
Go play baseball before it's too late dumbshits.[/quote:bkvsoovb]
I agree about the "stock" comment. Go look at my sons bikes..they are out of the box stock running 2 mod classes at Oak Hill. Today he took 10th in his 125cc 12-16 mod class.
Baseball sucks...we tried that too (LOL)
He just needs to learn to use it all.
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what you talkin bout willis?
They have a better shot at being RC then they do ARod...
Can you answer my question, other than saying I have to turn my books over to the AMA?
Can you answer my question, other than saying I have to turn my books over to the AMA?[/quote:29bb0ikj]No you can't police it and turning your books over to anyone is silly especially the AMA. IMO the OEMs have run roughshod through the sport serving their own self interests with complete disregard to the essence of amateur sports. The AMA hasn't the leadership nor the fortitude to steer the ship the advancement crap is a perfect example.
Comparing this to “Little League” makes no sense at all. This is world class amateur racing.
What’s you’re thought on Olympic athletes?
So who pays for Little League teams uniforms, equipment, Insurance, Entry Fees, Travel? : [b:vae1k4je]SPONSORS ! [/b:vae1k4je]
Amateur Motocross is small time compared to the Little League business, not that it's a fair comparison....
Professional or Amateur Motocross would flourish with a fraction of the sponsorship dollars and telelvision
exposure they have.
"You can argue about the sanctity of “amateur athletics” but in today’s capitalistic world that concept lost all meaning decades ago. The Olympics smartly gave up on it because it wasn’t fair to the athletes."
Little League is a Big League business and gets bigger each and every year, thanks to the increased national television coverage from ESPN and ABC, which has driven up not just rights fees but corporate sponsorships, stadium advertising and ancillary income.
Little League Baseball, Inc., a non-profit based in Williamsport, Pa., took in revenues of $19.2 million in 2005 according to the IRS, an increase of 26.4 percent from just four years prior.
LLB, Inc. spent $17.4 million last year and has over $62.6 million in cash reserves. CEO Stephen Keener drew over $225,000 last year in salary and retirement contributions according to tax records.
ESPN and ABC can’t get enough of the Little League, televising all 32 games of the baseball World Series, more than a dozen regional qualifying tournament games and three softball World Series games. What began in 1953 as a single televised championship game now dominates the networks’ August schedule.
The Little League World Series is so big business that its championship game will go by the name “Little League World Series: World Championship presented by Kellogg’s Frosted Flakes.”
Kellogg’s outbid all the other major corporate sponsors such as Bank of America, ReMax Real Estate, Ace Hardware and Snickers, to name a few, for the title game naming rights.
I agree 100% sports isn't what it used to be, and everyone can debate forever about salaries and compensation in
amateur and professional sports - when you are old enough to have been around "when it started" and look at things
now it's appears way out of perspective. Why it bothers us that some have hocked their lives away to get
little Johnny to the "next level" in any sport is strange, and yes I am as guilty as anyone else wondering about
it as anyone else but it's their lives, decisions and finances to deal with, and fortunately for a few their is a payoff
which is producing great racers and athletes for us to watch. I have talked to many that took that route and
"didn't make it" but they all say they wouldn't have traded those times for anything else, and were glad they gave
it their best shot.
KTM had 1 Big Rig, and 3 smaller rigs etc...
Honda/Honda of Houston had 2 big Rigs...
Yamaha had 2 big rigs etc...
Suzuki was the only Manufacturer without a big rig, but their riders did very well. (I might have missed their rig)
I miss the Ford Econoline Van days when the sport was pure and the playing field was fairly level.[/quote:36uvbvlc]
Of course there's more money in amateur racing these days. There are more amateur racers and the factories and sponsors realize the marketing value in the grass roots of the sport. Plus, the amateur ranks is where tomorrows Pro's come from--they are just investing in the future of the sport.
However, very few amateur racers are actually making any money. Just like at the Pro level, the most successful riders make the most money--in contingency and bonuses. If there wasn't any help from sponsors and the factories, a lot of people wouldn't be able to make it. The sport would dry up and the Pro ranks would eventually suffer.
Most of the rigs you see in the pits aren't funded by the factories or sponsors—except, of course, the ones the factories brought there themselves. And those are usually there to help anyone riding that particualr brand, not just their factory riders. The rest of the rigs, motorhomes, fun movers, or whatever, are privately funded by the families. And, yes, like Sondra said, some families go into deep hock to get their kids to the races. But who is anybody to judge them for doing so. If it's how they want to spend time together as a family, who are they hurting?
As far as regulating amateur racing like college sports...just because college athletes don't get paid, they are still being compensated, with scholarships. Last I checked, a year at college can cost upwards of $80,000.
Amateur racing has evolved with the times. There are currently more rides available in the Pro ranks than there were 10 or 15 years ago. Attendance has been steady in Supercross and grown in the Outdoors. There are more people involved in motocross now. The sport as a whole has grown, and with it, amateur racing has grown. It's all just natural progression.
But when all is said and done, money doesn't buy championships. It's still going to be the kid with the most drive, talent and determination who will do all the winning.
Just my .02 cents.
CH[/quote:36uvbvlc]
money does buy championships alot of the times.look at mxsports and the way the races are set up so the rich can chase the elusive L.L. spots. if you want to see kids with drive, talent and determination (but not alot of cash) win. set all the L.L. races on the same weekend.
KTM had 1 Big Rig, and 3 smaller rigs etc...
Honda/Honda of Houston had 2 big Rigs...
Yamaha had 2 big rigs etc...
Suzuki was the only Manufacturer without a big rig, but their riders did very well. (I might have missed their rig)
I miss the Ford Econoline Van days when the sport was pure and the playing field was fairly level.[/quote:19od1m76]
Of course there's more money in amateur racing these days. There are more amateur racers and the factories and sponsors realize the marketing value in the grass roots of the sport. Plus, the amateur ranks is where tomorrows Pro's come from--they are just investing in the future of the sport.
However, very few amateur racers are actually making any money. Just like at the Pro level, the most successful riders make the most money--in contingency and bonuses. If there wasn't any help from sponsors and the factories, a lot of people wouldn't be able to make it. The sport would dry up and the Pro ranks would eventually suffer.
Most of the rigs you see in the pits aren't funded by the factories or sponsors—except, of course, the ones the factories brought there themselves. And those are usually there to help anyone riding that particualr brand, not just their factory riders. The rest of the rigs, motorhomes, fun movers, or whatever, are privately funded by the families. And, yes, like Sondra said, some families go into deep hock to get their kids to the races. But who is anybody to judge them for doing so. If it's how they want to spend time together as a family, who are they hurting?
As far as regulating amateur racing like college sports...just because college athletes don't get paid, they are still being compensated, with scholarships. Last I checked, a year at college can cost upwards of $80,000.
Amateur racing has evolved with the times. There are currently more rides available in the Pro ranks than there were 10 or 15 years ago. Attendance has been steady in Supercross and grown in the Outdoors. There are more people involved in motocross now. The sport as a whole has grown, and with it, amateur racing has grown. It's all just natural progression.
But when all is said and done, money doesn't buy championships. It's still going to be the kid with the most drive, talent and determination who will do all the winning.
Just my .02 cents.
CH[/quote:19od1m76]
money does buy championships alot of the times.look at mxsports and the way the races are set up so the rich can chase the elusive L.L. spots. if you want to see kids with drive, talent and determination (but not alot of cash) win. set all the L.L. races on the same weekend.[/quote:19od1m76]
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