I parked the Duramax Sunday...

[quote="kaw rider9":2sjmn037]Buy a dual sport..... Kaw's are best...... Or, Just walk to work like I do! " title="Laughing"> Could not play last night, I had company... Maybee tonight.[/quote:2sjmn037]


x2. on the dual sport. I bought a xr650r with a plate last summer for $2000. I never got the dual sport thing until I bought one. That thing gets like 65 mpg. Its awesome when you can just pull off the road onto a trail. Its also amazingly fun to mess with harleys on, it just blows them out of the water acceleration wise.

[quote="Spinner":iynva44s]I'm very happy with my ride. Great mileage, plenty of room to put shit.

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You may loose some rear wheel bearings around 60,000, but Toyo will warrant them. You also need to replace the oil pick up screen at 100,000. I have about 15 of those with 200,000 plus that kick ass and take names daily.

[quote="kaw rider9":omp35ds0]Not a street bike, I said a Dual sport Kaw!!![/quote:omp35ds0]
Never thought you would catch me looking at one of those but my buddy and I went to 2 shops today looking at the 650KLRs. We had the thoughts of riding to our dirt road areas instead of hauling our bikes out.

[quote="Scotty":2abvacb9][quote="brent26wood":2abvacb9]Parked my F-350 Powerstroke last week and bought this.....


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Drove 347 miles and it cost me $33.00 to fill it up. Compared to 400 miles and $97.00 to fill the diesel.[/quote:2abvacb9]

Not to sound like an ass, but why does that make you think your saving money? You just spent thousands on a car? Im willing to bet you now have a car payment... right? Doesnt make sense to me.. diesel out here is 4 bucks a gallon. Its been $3.25-3.50 a gallons for the past few years. so say Im paying $50 cents more per gallon. 26 gallon tank, that makes my fillups roughly $15 bucks more per fill up. So I go through a tank per week, thats an extra $60 bucks per month. You can spend that in 2 weeks at starbucks.. I just dont get get what the big deal is? Is $60-100 bucks per month really worth taking on a another car? What about insurance on that car? What about maintenance on that car? seems silly to me? [/quote:2abvacb9]I bought it because I have been averaging almost $700 a month in fuel for the truck. If I cut that to a 1/3 and add in the car payment and insurance, I still save 200 a month. Plus I save the wear and tear on the truck and my maaintenance costs are cut way down.

[quote="RMZ290":1yxemj4y][quote="kaw rider9":1yxemj4y]Buy a dual sport..... Kaw's are best...... Or, Just walk to work like I do! " title="Laughing"> Could not play last night, I had company... Maybee tonight.[/quote:1yxemj4y]


x2. on the dual sport. I bought a xr650r with a plate last summer for $2000. I never got the dual sport thing until I bought one. That thing gets like 65 mpg. Its awesome when you can just pull off the road onto a trail. Its also amazingly fun to mess with harleys on, it just blows them out of the water acceleration wise.[/quote:1yxemj4y]
Fun as hell ain't it. " title="Laughing"> I never thought I would ride a dual sport untill I bought one.. Fun Fun Fun. Riding down the street and seeing a spot that look's like fun, Just jump offroad and tear it up. SWEET. 100 MPG to boot.

[quote="brent26wood":hiw1zc0f][quote="Scotty":hiw1zc0f][quote="brent26wood":hiw1zc0f]Parked my F-350 Powerstroke last week and bought this.....





Drove 347 miles and it cost me $33.00 to fill it up. Compared to 400 miles and $97.00 to fill the diesel.[/quote:hiw1zc0f]

Not to sound like an ass, but why does that make you think your saving money? You just spent thousands on a car? Im willing to bet you now have a car payment... right? Doesnt make sense to me.. diesel out here is 4 bucks a gallon. Its been $3.25-3.50 a gallons for the past few years. so say Im paying $50 cents more per gallon. 26 gallon tank, that makes my fillups roughly $15 bucks more per fill up. So I go through a tank per week, thats an extra $60 bucks per month. You can spend that in 2 weeks at starbucks.. I just dont get get what the big deal is? Is $60-100 bucks per month really worth taking on a another car? What about insurance on that car? What about maintenance on that car? seems silly to me? [/quote:hiw1zc0f]I bought it because I have been averaging almost $700 a month in fuel for the truck. If I cut that to a 1/3 and add in the car payment and insurance, I still save 200 a month. Plus I save the wear and tear on the truck and my maaintenance costs are cut way down.[/quote:hiw1zc0f]

That still doesnt make sense to me.. so you were spending $700 bucks a month on gas, so now you will be spending $350-400 per month. Thats doubling your gas milage from your duramax. Add in your car payment, insurance, etc, and your not gonna be saving a penny. am i missing something? Im not trying to be a dick, just wondering " title="Laughing">

[quote="TJ":380t7a0s][quote="Spinner":380t7a0s]I'm very happy with my ride. Great mileage, plenty of room to put shit.

[/quote:380t7a0s]

[color=#0000FF:380t7a0s]I bought one over the weekend to use until my son is driving, then give to him (about 8 months). That little thing is great & we may just buy another one once we give this one to him. We live kinda out in the country, & drive a lot. I'm curious to see our fuel cost difference in the coming months...//TJ[/color:380t7a0s][/quote:380t7a0s]
Sounds to me like your bragging about buying jr. a brand new car. What happened to when you were a kid you got to buy one of your relatives played out rides for 100 to 500. If your thinking about buying another one, you have enough money to buy gas at just about any price. So go some other place and bitch. Made my kid buy his own 89 honda for 350.00 , car is older than him and he loves it .Even with some surface rust and character dents already there at no extra charge !!

[quote="huck":i0xen1m0][quote="Scotty":i0xen1m0]

That still doesnt make sense to me.. so you were spending $700 bucks a month on gas, so now you will be spending $350-400 per month. Thats doubling your gas milage from your duramax. Add in your car payment, insurance, etc, and your not gonna be saving a penny. am i missing something? Im not trying to be a dick, just wondering " title="Laughing">[/quote:i0xen1m0]

Say you drive 500 miles a week...

Duramax = 18 miles per gallon (very high average).
27.8 gallons of fuel @ $3.95 per gallon = $109.81 per week = $475.84 per month

Little car = 30 miles per gallon
16.7 gallons of fuel @ $3.39 per gallon = $56.61 per week = $245.31 per month


If you don't have a payment, you could save some money...if you have a $300.00 payment, it will cost you money.[/quote:i0xen1m0]

Thanks, thats my whole point.. With carpayment, insurance, maintenance etc its a wash.

[quote="kaw rider9":1o3x5tjz][quote="RMZ290":1o3x5tjz][quote="kaw rider9":1o3x5tjz]Buy a dual sport..... Kaw's are best...... Or, Just walk to work like I do! " title="Laughing"> Could not play last night, I had company... Maybee tonight.[/quote:1o3x5tjz]


x2. on the dual sport. I bought a xr650r with a plate last summer for $2000. I never got the dual sport thing until I bought one. That thing gets like 65 mpg. Its awesome when you can just pull off the road onto a trail. Its also amazingly fun to mess with harleys on, it just blows them out of the water acceleration wise.[/quote:1o3x5tjz]
Fun as hell ain't it. " title="Laughing"> I never thought I would ride a dual sport until I bought one.. Fun Fun Fun. Riding down the street and seeing a spot that look's like fun, Just jump offroad and tear it up. SWEET. 100 MPG to boot.[/quote:1o3x5tjz]


its like the same kind of fun when you first start getting into motocross and you can't stay off the bike. I never expected it to be.

I ended up putting full street tires on my 650r and that added a whole new dimension. Backroads just become a race track. I got in trouble at college to table topping a stair way with it that some bmxers were trying to clear. still does pretty well in semi tame offroad stuff. I can't wait for riding season to hit again. I'm tempted to throw the hrc kit in the bike or something similar but will probably wait to see if they do in fact come out with the rumored street legal crf700 based of that new quad using the efi 650r engine. the 650r has to be one of the best do anything bikes ever made.

We have a pair of KTM 530 exc dualsports up at our cabin in the mountains..Its a blast to drive out of the garage, and head up in the hills and cruise the trails. We have a place in Bigbear,and there are ALOT of trails to hit that will take you up and down the mountain.. 8k feet to sealevel and back.. Good times!

I just parked my f150. I bought a used Toyota solara. I am selling the truck so I will be going from:


F150 $338 payment, $400 a month in gas.
Toyota Paid for, $ less than $150 in gas.


I will re-coup what I spent on the Toyota in less than 6 months.

[quote="brent26wood":1fi6i6bv][quote="Scotty":1fi6i6bv][quote="brent26wood":1fi6i6bv]Parked my F-350 Powerstroke last week and bought this.....


[img:1fi6i6bv]http://bjstone.blogpeoria.com/files/2007/05/toyota_yaris.jpg[/img:1fi6i…]


Drove 347 miles and it cost me $33.00 to fill it up. Compared to 400 miles and $97.00 to fill the diesel.[/quote:1fi6i6bv]

Not to sound like an ass, but why does that make you think your saving money? You just spent thousands on a car? Im willing to bet you now have a car payment... right? Doesnt make sense to me.. diesel out here is 4 bucks a gallon. Its been $3.25-3.50 a gallons for the past few years. so say Im paying $50 cents more per gallon. 26 gallon tank, that makes my fillups roughly $15 bucks more per fill up. So I go through a tank per week, thats an extra $60 bucks per month. You can spend that in 2 weeks at starbucks.. I just dont get get what the big deal is? Is $60-100 bucks per month really worth taking on a another car? What about insurance on that car? What about maintenance on that car? seems silly to me? [/quote:1fi6i6bv]I bought it because I have been averaging almost $700 a month in fuel for the truck. If I cut that to a 1/3 and add in the car payment and insurance, I still save 200 a month. Plus I save the wear and tear on the truck and my maaintenance costs are cut way down.[/quote:1fi6i6bv]

Plus you get a new car out of it. Otherwise your money would be wasted on fuel with nothing to show for it at the end of the year.

[quote="Scotty":3h8hqdgs]

That still doesnt make sense to me.. so you were spending $700 bucks a month on gas, so now you will be spending $350-400 per month. Thats doubling your gas milage from your duramax. Add in your car payment, insurance, etc, and your not gonna be saving a penny. am i missing something? Im not trying to be a dick, just wondering " title="Laughing">[/quote:3h8hqdgs]
I'll slow it down.

.................................F-350......................Yaris
Fuel (6 fill ups)..............$660(6x$110)............$180(6x $30)
Insurance.....................$60........................$44
Maintenance.................$130 per oil change......$40
Payment......................$0..........................$212
Total..........................$850 ...................... $470
Not tearing up my tow vehicle..........................Priceless

[quote="huck":1z0se82g][quote="brent26wood":1z0se82g][quote="Scotty":1z0se82g]

That still doesnt make sense to me.. so you were spending $700 bucks a month on gas, so now you will be spending $350-400 per month. Thats doubling your gas milage from your duramax. Add in your car payment, insurance, etc, and your not gonna be saving a penny. am i missing something? Im not trying to be a dick, just wondering " title="Laughing">[/quote:1z0se82g]
I'll slow it down.

.................................F-350......................Yaris
Fuel (6 fill ups)..............$660(6x$110)............$180(6x $30)
Insurance.....................$60........................$44
Maintenance.................$130 per oil change......$40
Payment......................$0..........................$212
Total..........................$850 ...................... $470
Not tearing up my tow vehicle..........................Priceless[/quote:1z0se82g]

Your oil change on the diesel shold last twice as long as the Yaris. You change your oil in your diesel every 3,125 miles? That's the way you have it broken down above...[/quote:1z0se82g]Nope, the oil change is listed just as a point since it was brought up. But they both get it changed every 5000 miles. All new Toyotas are 5000 mile maintenace intervals, same as my truck

[quote="brent26wood":23kkpht6][quote="Scotty":23kkpht6]

That still doesnt make sense to me.. so you were spending $700 bucks a month on gas, so now you will be spending $350-400 per month. Thats doubling your gas milage from your duramax. Add in your car payment, insurance, etc, and your not gonna be saving a penny. am i missing something? Im not trying to be a dick, just wondering " title="Laughing">[/quote:23kkpht6]
I'll slow it down.

.................................F-350......................Yaris
Fuel (6 fill ups)..............$660(6x$110)............$180(6x $30)
Insurance.....................$60........................$44
Maintenance.................$130 per oil change......$40
Payment......................$0..........................$212
Total..........................$850 ...................... $470
Not tearing up my tow vehicle..........................Priceless[/quote:23kkpht6]

WTF on the diesel oil change? I pay 22.00 for a 2.5 gallon (10 quarts) jug of Shell Rotella T, and 9.00 for a NAPA Gold filter.

[quote="xewbx":15pscu6h][quote="brent26wood":15pscu6h][quote="Scotty":15pscu6h]

That still doesnt make sense to me.. so you were spending $700 bucks a month on gas, so now you will be spending $350-400 per month. Thats doubling your gas milage from your duramax. Add in your car payment, insurance, etc, and your not gonna be saving a penny. am i missing something? Im not trying to be a dick, just wondering " title="Laughing">[/quote:15pscu6h]
I'll slow it down.

.................................F-350......................Yaris
Fuel (6 fill ups)..............$660(6x$110)............$180(6x $30)
Insurance.....................$60........................$44
Maintenance.................$130 per oil change......$40
Payment......................$0..........................$212
Total..........................$850 ...................... $470
Not tearing up my tow vehicle..........................Priceless[/quote:15pscu6h]

WTF on the diesel oil change? I pay 22.00 for a 2.5 gallon (10 quarts) jug of Shell Rotella T, and 9.00 for a NAPA Gold filter.[/quote:15pscu6h]I pay $14x4 a gallon for Ford 30 wt deisel oil ($56). $16 for filter. $22 for air filter. and $30 for labor cause it's easier to pay my buddy to let his guys change the oil and grease it up than it is for me to change it and then dispose of 15 qrts of oil.

[quote="brent26wood":3n2gaw7b][quote="xewbx":3n2gaw7b]
WTF on the diesel oil change? I pay 22.00 for a 2.5 gallon (10 quarts) jug of Shell Rotella T, and 9.00 for a NAPA Gold filter.[/quote:3n2gaw7b]I pay $14x4 a gallon for Ford 30 wt deisel oil ($56). $16 for filter. $22 for air filter. and $30 for labor cause it's easier to pay my buddy to let his guys change the oil and grease it up than it is for me to change it and then dispose of 15 qrts of oil.[/quote:3n2gaw7b]


Wow.....

Computer tells me when to change the oil, from 5 to 10 thousand miles depending on the driving conditions (it tracks load, speed, temp, stop and go, hwy, etc). Have a restriction guage on the air cleaner (still got a long way to go on that, and that's after Baja and thousand of miles in the desert, including the 3 miles of dirt roads I drive down every day). I think I've spent as much on oil in my truck since I bought than you do in one change.

[quote="xewbx":3dd4hsns][quote="brent26wood":3dd4hsns][quote="xewbx":3dd4hsns]
WTF on the diesel oil change? I pay 22.00 for a 2.5 gallon (10 quarts) jug of Shell Rotella T, and 9.00 for a NAPA Gold filter.[/quote:3dd4hsns]I pay $14x4 a gallon for Ford 30 wt deisel oil ($56). $16 for filter. $22 for air filter. and $30 for labor cause it's easier to pay my buddy to let his guys change the oil and grease it up than it is for me to change it and then dispose of 15 qrts of oil.[/quote:3dd4hsns]


Wow.....

Computer tells me when to change the oil, from 5 to 10 thousand miles depending on the driving conditions (it tracks load, speed, temp, stop and go, hwy, etc). Have a restriction guage on the air cleaner (still got a long way to go on that, and that's after Baja and thousand of miles in the desert, including the 3 miles of dirt roads I drive down every day). I think I've spent as much on oil in my truck since I bought than you do in one change.[/quote:3dd4hsns]I change my oil anywhere between 5 and 7K miles and my air filter the same. Never had a problem with truck and it's 9 years old.

[quote="volcati":mp02asz0]http://www.carjunky.com/news/motor_oil_myths.shtml[/quote:mp02asz0]
You posted an Amsoil info ad? Whats that for?

[quote="Spinner":1gf90xit]I'm very happy with my ride. Great mileage, plenty of room to put shit.

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Those things are wicked cool for advertising. Wrap one and you got a rolling sign. Not to mention low cost. To purchase and operate. But the one thing that I just cant get behind is the short distance from windshield to imapct. I haven't really seen the inside of one so I don't know if thats a reality. And to be honest with you I have never seen one in a traffic collision.

For all I know it could be like the X5 and the safest thing on the road. What do you think of the safety?

[quote="Tiki":puc4m79g] What do you think of the safety?[/quote:puc4m79g]
I'm not gonna lie, it concerns me being in such a small car. But, that being said, I just drive safe and hope no one torpedoes me.

I bought a 1991 Metro a couple months ago for $250. I've filled it up twice. I've stuck about $42 in gasoline into it and I get 46mpg.

Yeah, that's right...a Metro.

[quote="huck":1zmhht31][quote="Cygnus":1zmhht31]We have the loader here for a week to build up some more fun stuff on the track. I just called and I can get ag diesel(red dye) for 3.55 a gal . I figure I will save a couple hundred dollars on fuel If I drive into the peroleum station instead of getting it right from the normal pump.[/quote:1zmhht31]

Off road diesel definitely goes into my tractor and dozer. I remember when it used to be "cheap"...

Have any of you guys bought fertilizer this year...FUCK!!! $435.00 a ton for just nitrogen. Tripe 17 is over $550.00 a ton. Hay is going to be like buying gold this year.[/quote:1zmhht31]

435 a ton? Thats frikkin CHEAP man! We are going to be OVER a GRAND a ton here, for nitrogen. My fertilizer bill this year will be 40 grand!

[quote="T-Fish123":1t3lquuf]I bought a 1991 Metro a couple months ago for $250. I've filled it up twice. I've stuck about $42 in gasoline into it and I get 46mpg.

Yeah, that's right...a Metro.[/quote:1t3lquuf]
3 cylinders of fury. Me and a buddy of mine got busted in high school for driving his Metro down the sidewalks to class. But hey, it was raining!

pretty interesting thread.

Few things on the Diesel. it's not ever going to be cheaper than gas. They changed the way they make it and it's always going to cost more now.

Change that oil on the Diesel every 3-5K if you don't you will pay a healthy price in the long run.

I do find it odd we Americans don't like fuel prices and buy extra vehicles that burn more fuel to make ourself feel better.

I don't know how much you guy's pay for insurance but I doubt I could add a car and save any money let alone the operating costs ect.

The clean energy projects are what've been pouring in to our design firm recently. Aside from the Infinia projects (you can see these on the web) we're doing, I'm also involved in yet another project that, hopefully, will reduce/eliminate the love we Americans have for our cars. Operating costs of vehicles are going through the roof. I've read reports where it's estimated that an average car costs about $12K per year to operate, when a person includes all operating expenses, interest payments, and depreciation.

I won't divulge the details about the new project until September when, hopefully, it's installed at the pilot site. Regardless, expect to see some offerings that hopefully park a lot of our vehicles, puts that money back into our pockets, and reduces our interest in the middle east and its oil.

screw gas, my car will already run on hydrogen, just needs different injectors and a cpu flash.

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