Josh Grants hit on RV was.....

Flarider has the right answer.

I disagree that he was on the dirt. It looks pretty obvious to me that he was on his feet. Yeah, the wall was steep. I guess I have to ask what the heck the difference was? If you see a guy on the ground, throttle it right over him? I just think Grant made a bad decision. But, given any time to think it through, I'd doubt many of us would opt to ride over or through a rider's body.

[quote="jtomasik":m71bjc5k]I disagree that he was on the dirt. It looks pretty obvious to me that he was on his feet. Yeah, the wall was steep. I guess I have to ask what the heck the difference was? If you see a guy on the ground, throttle it right over him? I just think Grant made a bad decision. But, given any time to think it through, I'd doubt many of us would opt to ride over or through a rider's body.[/quote:m71bjc5k]


You have very little time to think about it and he made a bad decision.

Many of us will never have to climb a near vertical 6 foot wall with a small whoop in it immediately after exiting a sand turn.

When in doubt . Gas it !!!

Not only breath.... BOBBy M needs to swallow. Lets take it from the beginng of the race. Trey gets the start and hits his breaks in the corner causing JG to clip his back wheel. JG goes down gets ran over by # 77, gets up in dead last place and races foward to 7th place (last to 7th in 7 laps) are you an idiot or what? That was one of the best rides ever! Take a look at the pic What was JG supposed to do ? 1. wait for RV to see if he was going to save it ( which he was trying to do) 2. anticapate which way RV was going to fall. 3. think ?? hey this is my chance to run RV over and ruin his and my career. 4.Keep in the same race line that I have been taking all nite and salvage the race and finish the nite on the box (which he would have done by the lap times he was running) Props to JG & RV for a great nite of racing for us. JG if you read these comments don't let the idiots on this board take anything from you. Lets see them do it. Just saying

[quote="2-tokes":1rz8jsnb]Not only breath.... BOBBy M needs to swallow. Lets take it from the beginng of the race. Trey gets the start and hits his breaks in the corner causing JG to clip his back wheel. JG goes down gets ran over by # 77, gets up in dead last place and races foward to 7th place (last to 7th in 7 laps) are you an idiot or what? That was one of the best rides ever! Take a look at the pic What was JG supposed to do ? 1. wait for RV to see if he was going to save it ( which he was trying to do) 2. anticapate which way RV was going to fall. 3. think ?? hey this is my chance to run RV over and ruin his and my career. 4.Keep in the same race line that I have been taking all nite and salvage the race and finish the nite on the box (which he would have done by the lap times he was running) Props to JG & RV for a great nite of racing for us. JG if you read these comments don't let the idiots on this board take anything from you. Lets see them do it. Just saying[/quote:1rz8jsnb]
5. Go left. My goodness you people are acting like they are on friggin rails. It really does just go to the 2 options, (1) waste no time and ram Villo or (2) stop and go left.
He would have been off a lot better and salvaged more time by just moving over. Im going to chalk it up to heat of the moment poor thinking, plain and simple.

[quote="Farva":3uk8ft6t]Everyone forgot to read or did not hear that Josh Grant was asking how Villo was after the race... [b:3uk8ft6t]If he hurt him on purpose why ask how he is?[/quote:3uk8ft6t][/b:3uk8ft6t]

To see if he was a shoe-in for his first SX title?

[quote="blankplate":1cu009oy][quote="Farva":1cu009oy]Everyone forgot to read or did not hear that Josh Grant was asking how Villo was after the race... [b:1cu009oy]If he hurt him on purpose why ask how he is?[/quote:1cu009oy][/b:1cu009oy]

To see if he was a shoe-in for his first SX title? [/quote:1cu009oy]

Or to see how much trouble he would be in if say ... he had broken both of RV's arms or something.

The only one who knows what JG was thinking is JG.

However, you can get a good view of the section in question at the Speed-TV ATL recap at [url:1cu009oy]http://www.speedtv.com/[/url:1cu009oy] . Not much of an approach to the wall but still you would have time to react to a guy stuck right in the middle of it.

My guess is JG was gambling/hoping that RV was going to let go of the bike and create a small space that he could ride thru ... but he didn't wait for it to happen or back off when it didn't. That's just a guess ... but there's no way you can claim JG would not have had time to make [u:1cu009oy]any[/u:1cu009oy] sort of braking attempt or at the very least not to have gotten on the gas at the base of the wall.

Would be interesting to hear both JG's and RV's take on it ... after both of them have seen the video of it.

[quote="ktm boy 137":3237vh22]
In that small window of time - Grant (like myself) probably thought he (RV) would try and move so as not to get hit. [/quote:3237vh22]

Oh. Ok. NOW, I get it. A guy standing on the track, holding up a bike with boots on certainly has time to run out of the way, but the professional riding the 50hp motorcycle bearing down on him doesn't have time to stop, pick a different line, at least chop the throttle since collision is imminent, etc.

Hmmm. I'm glad you explained that. It now makes perfect sense to me.

My first thought was Grant was trying to "seat hop" over him. Maybe he thought he could get over him and grossly miscalculated????
Regardless, it looks like a pretty bold (and cold) take out.

[quote="SIMX":1zkw6p66]My first thought was Grant was trying to "seat hop" over him. Maybe he thought he could get over him and grossly miscalculated????
Regardless, it looks like a pretty bold (and cold) take out.[/quote:1zkw6p66]

That's what I thought as well, because of the way he got on the gas at the base of the wall. If RV had stayed low or even let go of the bike, JG might have been able to get a little hop going and clear - or at least lessen the contact - with RV. But that was a bad gamble that kinda backfired on him.

[quote="race":3o62y6y4][quote="SIMX":3o62y6y4]My first thought was Grant was trying to "seat hop" over him. Maybe he thought he could get over him and grossly miscalculated????
Regardless, it looks like a pretty bold (and cold) take out.[/quote:3o62y6y4]

That's what I thought as well, because of the way he got on the gas at the base of the wall. If RV had stayed low or even let go of the bike, JG might have been able to get a little hop going and clear - or at least lessen the contact - with RV. But that was a bad gamble that kinda backfired on him though.[/quote:3o62y6y4]

How do you seat bounce a jump when a guy and his bike are on the face of it??? All I can say is that if James had done what Josh Grant did this board would have exploded.

Considering where it happened and the fact that most pros are looking ahead I can't say that I think that it was an accident, but you never know.


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[quote:lkfw6upg]All I can say is that if James had done what Josh Grant did this board would have exploded.[/quote:lkfw6upg]

You have the worst man-crush I have ever seen. WTF did this have to do with James? STFU P youareatool.

Grant got on the gas to climb the jump. You guys still aren't getting the picture on how steep it was. There was no ride up to this thing a roll over. The riders (450s included), had to gas it to get up and over this thing.

[quote="tlw109":3j1dqi7g]Grant got on the gas to climb the jump. You guys still aren't getting the picture on how steep it was. There was no ride up to this thing a roll over. The riders (450s included), had to gas it to get up and over this thing.[/quote:3j1dqi7g]


Yeah...could very well be. But, jeezus, where the heck was he looking? It wasn't like RV wasn't right in front of him.

[quote="P":5a6z043t][quote="race":5a6z043t][quote="SIMX":5a6z043t]My first thought was Grant was trying to "seat hop" over him. Maybe he thought he could get over him and grossly miscalculated????
Regardless, it looks like a pretty bold (and cold) take out.[/quote:5a6z043t]

That's what I thought as well, because of the way he got on the gas at the base of the wall. If RV had stayed low or even let go of the bike, JG might have been able to get a little hop going and clear - or at least lessen the contact - with RV. But that was a bad gamble that kinda backfired on him though.[/quote:5a6z043t]

How do you seat bounce a jump when a guy and his bike are on the face of it??? All I can say is that if James had done what Josh Grant did this board would have exploded.

Considering where it happened and the fact that most pros are looking ahead I can't say that I think that it was an accident, but you never know.

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I honestly think JS,RC,CR,and most riders would opt to brake completely(knowing it's a long race) and crashing into another RIDER or his bike would most likely hurt them both.Or pulling to the left(like a few other newb lites riders actually did.Did you see that those riders didn't have to GAS it or LEAP into it?They crawled easily up this "WALL")If Grant was thinking RV would jump out of the way,the bike STILL would have fallen into Grants path causing him to hit a bike(instead of 2 fleshy arms and a 105 pound body.)I'll still stick with the idea that it was just a racing incident,and not intended to hurt RV.Still,a poor decision that could have been different under a cooler head.

I think the fact that both riders had already fallen played a part in it. Grant and Villopoto were in catch up mode and were taking chances. Had they been up front when this happened, Grant might have taken his time getting around Villopoto.

RV was laying on the track,that is why grant ran over him.

[quote:8zcgrqqp]All I can say is that if James had done what Josh Grant did this board would have exploded.[/quote:8zcgrqqp]

I think we've already seen something pretty similar to that and, yes there was a minor board implosion.

I never stated Grant should have tried seat bouncing or what ever, it just looked, to me, that's what he was trying. I'm not taking up for Grant either, cause it looks pretty chicken shit to me, but maybe he though he could get over him or lessen the impact by doing what he did. Obviously, he was wrong!

Doesn't matter how steep the face was. The point is that there was a downed rider. He should have stopped plain and simple.

[quote="brent26wood":2fzud6o5]Doesn't matter how steep the face was. The point is that there was a downed rider. He should have stopped plain and simple.[/quote:2fzud6o5]
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So if that was P laying on the track how many of you would have ran over him?

[quote="oldx":33vj99v3]So if that was P laying on the track how many of you would have ran over him?[/quote:33vj99v3]

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Are you guys seriously questioning the actions of a rider trying to move through the pack, knowing he has a chance at winning who is going faster than you all have gone in your lives?

[quote="Mxrider26x":3im4mn4v]Are you guys seriously questioning the actions of a rider trying to move through the pack, knowing he has a chance at winning who is going faster than you all have gone in your lives?[/quote:3im4mn4v]With that reasoning,few Americans would have a high enough IQ to vote in a presidential election.

[quote="Friday":78wkv0bn]With that reasoning,few Americans would have a high enough IQ to vote in a presidential election.[/quote:78wkv0bn]
The truth is just THAT! Ive said it once and Ill say it again, 90% of society are fucking idiots.

[quote="brent26wood":2e3rkjga]Doesn't matter how steep the face was. The point is that there was a downed rider. He should have stopped plain and simple.[/quote:2e3rkjga]
There was a downed rider at the start so everybody should have stopped plain and simple.

It looked like he wanted to break his wrist or arms. I don't think he meant to hit him in the head like that.

[quote="mxpimp18":36mf76e3]It looked like he wanted to break his wrist or arms. I don't think he meant to hit him in the head like that.[/quote:36mf76e3]

And another Moron chimes in.