Canard

DumpsterLuv wrote:

Woah, chill my friend, I'm not saying Bagget is jesus, take off those rose glasses. Canard gets into trouble were he doesn't need to, and after...

Woah, chill my friend, I'm not saying Bagget is jesus, take off those rose glasses. Canard gets into trouble were he doesn't need to, and after all the shit he has pulled, riders are less likely to race him clean. Same mentality = Same results, Canard needs to change his approach, if he doesn't he will keep getting the same results and lack of respect from other riders on the track that he is experiencing now. He may have people like you blowing smoke up his ass telling him he is something he isn't, Canard needs someone objective in his camp to tell him he needs to look at his own actions. Glass house...

Crush wrote:

Kiwi, he would have made the pass if Bagget doesn't close the door, but I think the point more is that Trey was going for a...

Kiwi, he would have made the pass if Bagget doesn't close the door, but I think the point more is that Trey was going for a comparatively low percentage and aggressive move... It's not the first time.

If he does that move on the inside then there is no issue... As is Blake is certainly not required to let Trey go around the outside.

Put it this way, he's literally at the mercy of a guy he's trying to pass and as usual went 110% in close proximity to another rider... which for example, is something you rarely if ever see Dungey do... It's not bashing, it's fact.

kiwifan wrote:

doesnt the likes of Anderson make those types of passes all the time?... I dont see countless threads on him like there is for Canard Dungey...

doesnt the likes of Anderson make those types of passes all the time?... I dont see countless threads on him like there is for Canard

Dungey is the best tactical rider out there so unfair to compare them...RD is daylights different to any other rider

kiwifan wrote:

doesnt the likes of Anderson make those types of passes all the time?... I dont see countless threads on him like there is for Canard Dungey...

doesnt the likes of Anderson make those types of passes all the time?... I dont see countless threads on him like there is for Canard

Dungey is the best tactical rider out there so unfair to compare them...RD is daylights different to any other rider

DumpsterLuv wrote:

Canard was not wheel to wheel, and there was no room to pass. Canard needs to set up his passes better on riders he is clearly...

Canard was not wheel to wheel, and there was no room to pass. Canard needs to set up his passes better on riders he is clearly faster then.

DumpsterLuv wrote:

Canard was not wheel to wheel, and there was no room to pass. Canard needs to set up his passes better on riders he is clearly...

Canard was not wheel to wheel, and there was no room to pass. Canard needs to set up his passes better on riders he is clearly faster then.

Ranch Life wrote:

[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/03/20/128761/s1200_CANARD.jpg[/img] I would call that wheel to wheel

I would call that wheel to wheel

731chopper wrote:

Holy shit some of you ladies will complain about anything if it involves a rider you don't like. If we didn't have riders with heart and...

Holy shit some of you ladies will complain about anything if it involves a rider you don't like. If we didn't have riders with heart and adversity out there like Anderson and Canard as a few examples we'd have more than a few boring races.

DumpsterLuv wrote:

Canard was not wheel to wheel, and there was no room to pass. Canard needs to set up his passes better on riders he is clearly...

Canard was not wheel to wheel, and there was no room to pass. Canard needs to set up his passes better on riders he is clearly faster then.

Ranch Life wrote:

[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/03/20/128761/s1200_CANARD.jpg[/img] I would call that wheel to wheel

I would call that wheel to wheel

731chopper wrote:

Holy shit some of you ladies will complain about anything if it involves a rider you don't like. If we didn't have riders with heart and...

Holy shit some of you ladies will complain about anything if it involves a rider you don't like. If we didn't have riders with heart and adversity out there like Anderson and Canard as a few examples we'd have more than a few boring races.

DumpsterLuv wrote:

Canard was not wheel to wheel, and there was no room to pass. Canard needs to set up his passes better on riders he is clearly...

Canard was not wheel to wheel, and there was no room to pass. Canard needs to set up his passes better on riders he is clearly faster then.

Ranch Life wrote:

[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/03/20/128761/s1200_CANARD.jpg[/img] I would call that wheel to wheel

I would call that wheel to wheel

seth505 wrote:

wheel to wheel, already making contact it would seem?

Ranch Life wrote:

[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/03/20/128761/s1200_CANARD.jpg[/img] I would call that wheel to wheel

I would call that wheel to wheel

seth505 wrote:

wheel to wheel, already making contact it would seem?

Ranch Life wrote:

Ya, maybe I would have been better off stating that he was wheel to wheel at one point, but Baggett keeps coming over on him even...

Ya, maybe I would have been better off stating that he was wheel to wheel at one point, but Baggett keeps coming over on him even after this picture, leaving him absolutely nowhere to go.

seth505 wrote:

wheel to wheel, already making contact it would seem?

Ranch Life wrote:

Ya, maybe I would have been better off stating that he was wheel to wheel at one point, but Baggett keeps coming over on him even...

Ya, maybe I would have been better off stating that he was wheel to wheel at one point, but Baggett keeps coming over on him even after this picture, leaving him absolutely nowhere to go.

DumpsterLuv wrote:

Why should baggett give canard room? Respect is earned and running people into finish line poles doesn't earn you any.

DumpsterLuv wrote:

Tell that to Morris

DumpsterLuv wrote:

Tell that to Morris

731chopper wrote:

Wow. The level of stupid in this forum sometimes is just mind boggling.

Crush wrote:

Hmmm... maybe but he's A.) made those passes on the inside (Barcia, Seely etc), so he's not left himself in a bad spot, and B.) also...

Hmmm... maybe but he's A.) made those passes on the inside (Barcia, Seely etc), so he's not left himself in a bad spot, and B.) also not made a habit of following so close he leaves himself no option...

And the RD comparison is more than fair, as it's undoubtedly the best way to go about it, the same as MC did. If you can put yourself in positions to pass without any contact, or close calls, you're more than likely not gonna have as many issues as someone like Trey who tails people as close as possible almost all the time.

DumpsterLuv wrote:

Elaborate instead of dodging

DumpsterLuv wrote:

Elaborate instead of dodging

kiwifan wrote:

coming from someone who had zero posts prior to coming into this thread, makes you wonder eh? Makes you think you deliberately created a username to...

coming from someone who had zero posts prior to coming into this thread, makes you wonder eh?

Makes you think you deliberately created a username to dog Canard, I wonder if GuyB checks your IP address to see what other name you post under. Who is dodging now?

DumpsterLuv wrote:

No argument, time to cry for mods... silly puppy ah nice edit as well , your cute huh ? "Crush" if anyone should have something against...

No argument, time to cry for mods... silly puppy
ah nice edit as well , your cute huh ?

"Crush" if anyone should have something against canard (being that he is from Aus i assume he is a reed fan), you don't need to listen to me, listen to him. He (Crush) is very stable on the subject and even though Reed caught a BS black flag because of Canards stupidity and disrespect for a legend he (crush) still looks at the situation from a balanced view. Unlike you friend, you think Canard can do know wrong, Canard has all the skill with none of the tact that it takes to be a champ. Canard will still make a nice living as a second rider on a pilot team good for him, just don't take out the real championship contenders and he will be fine running 10-20 for the next couple of years.

DumpsterLuv wrote:

Tell that to Morris

Ranch Life wrote:

Do you mean Ryan Morais?

Ranch Life wrote:

Do you mean Ryan Morais?

kiwifan wrote:

Possibly, but he had that wrong, Ryan jumped on Canard after Canard has banners stuck in his rear wheel so could not jump as per normal...

Possibly, but he had that wrong, Ryan jumped on Canard after Canard has banners stuck in his rear wheel so could not jump as per normal, hardly Canards fault

Ranch Life wrote:

I was just trying to make sure he was before I basically said what you did.

kiwifan wrote:

then again RD is always near the front he has a lot less traffic to navigate through than Canard has had...due to his better starts...so yeah...

then again RD is always near the front he has a lot less traffic to navigate through than Canard has had...due to his better starts...so yeah I get what you are saying Crush...

Just a shame you dont see my point of view.

Ranch Life wrote:

Do you mean Ryan Morais?

kiwifan wrote:

Possibly, but he had that wrong, Ryan jumped on Canard after Canard has banners stuck in his rear wheel so could not jump as per normal...

Possibly, but he had that wrong, Ryan jumped on Canard after Canard has banners stuck in his rear wheel so could not jump as per normal, hardly Canards fault

kiwifan wrote:

then again RD is always near the front he has a lot less traffic to navigate through than Canard has had...due to his better starts...so yeah...

then again RD is always near the front he has a lot less traffic to navigate through than Canard has had...due to his better starts...so yeah I get what you are saying Crush...

Just a shame you dont see my point of view.

Crush wrote:

I get what you are saying fine Kiwi, but what everyone else is saying, just like if Stewy took it easy occasionally, if Trey just backed...

I get what you are saying fine Kiwi, but what everyone else is saying, just like if Stewy took it easy occasionally, if Trey just backed it down and played it smart a little more, he would drastically reduce the chance of these things happening.

Sure, RD's starting position is something like 5 or 6 spots better on average than the next best, but he hasn't always been like this, and he wouldn't have had as many contact incidents in his (year longer career) as Trey has had this year alone....

kiwifan wrote:

so lets see, by your logic he should never attempt an inside pass (when its clearly on) because the rider MIGHT square him up to prevent...

so lets see, by your logic he should never attempt an inside pass (when its clearly on) because the rider MIGHT square him up to prevent the pass and therefore make contact...have I summed it up correctly?

Ranch Life wrote:

Do you mean Ryan Morais?

kiwifan wrote:

Possibly, but he had that wrong, Ryan jumped on Canard after Canard has banners stuck in his rear wheel so could not jump as per normal...

Possibly, but he had that wrong, Ryan jumped on Canard after Canard has banners stuck in his rear wheel so could not jump as per normal, hardly Canards fault

DumpsterLuv wrote:

Wow, absolutely no class kiwi.. Seriously, are you blaming that on Morais (i mis spelled earlier)? Morais has more class in his pinkie then you have...

Wow, absolutely no class kiwi.. Seriously, are you blaming that on Morais (i mis spelled earlier)? Morais has more class in his pinkie then you have in your whole body (and mine as well). Morais never said shit about it...
Canard took a banner in his wheel, he knew it, he then doubled a jump everyone else was tripling out of pure stupidity and literary ended a very promising riders career.
Canard never apologized publicly because he is holier then thou, holier then Morais. Canard should have pulled off and got a track worker to take off the banner, instead he made a stupid move and ended someones career. Canard can do no wrong in his mind and in the mind of nut-huggers like you, good for him. Cool to see RD thank Morais on the podium for test riding for KTM, never heard a peep out of the Canard camp about Morais... Just racing i guess Canard could care less about anyone but himself it seems...

DumpsterLuv wrote:

Wow, absolutely no class kiwi.. Seriously, are you blaming that on Morais (i mis spelled earlier)? Morais has more class in his pinkie then you have...

Wow, absolutely no class kiwi.. Seriously, are you blaming that on Morais (i mis spelled earlier)? Morais has more class in his pinkie then you have in your whole body (and mine as well). Morais never said shit about it...
Canard took a banner in his wheel, he knew it, he then doubled a jump everyone else was tripling out of pure stupidity and literary ended a very promising riders career.
Canard never apologized publicly because he is holier then thou, holier then Morais. Canard should have pulled off and got a track worker to take off the banner, instead he made a stupid move and ended someones career. Canard can do no wrong in his mind and in the mind of nut-huggers like you, good for him. Cool to see RD thank Morais on the podium for test riding for KTM, never heard a peep out of the Canard camp about Morais... Just racing i guess Canard could care less about anyone but himself it seems...

kiwifan wrote:

Possibly, but he had that wrong, Ryan jumped on Canard after Canard has banners stuck in his rear wheel so could not jump as per normal...

Possibly, but he had that wrong, Ryan jumped on Canard after Canard has banners stuck in his rear wheel so could not jump as per normal, hardly Canards fault

DumpsterLuv wrote:

Wow, absolutely no class kiwi.. Seriously, are you blaming that on Morais (i mis spelled earlier)? Morais has more class in his pinkie then you have...

Wow, absolutely no class kiwi.. Seriously, are you blaming that on Morais (i mis spelled earlier)? Morais has more class in his pinkie then you have in your whole body (and mine as well). Morais never said shit about it...
Canard took a banner in his wheel, he knew it, he then doubled a jump everyone else was tripling out of pure stupidity and literary ended a very promising riders career.
Canard never apologized publicly because he is holier then thou, holier then Morais. Canard should have pulled off and got a track worker to take off the banner, instead he made a stupid move and ended someones career. Canard can do no wrong in his mind and in the mind of nut-huggers like you, good for him. Cool to see RD thank Morais on the podium for test riding for KTM, never heard a peep out of the Canard camp about Morais... Just racing i guess Canard could care less about anyone but himself it seems...

Ranch Life wrote:

If I remember correctly, Canard said he didn't know he had a banner stuck in his wheel. But I don't think it was Morais's fault, just...

If I remember correctly, Canard said he didn't know he had a banner stuck in his wheel. But I don't think it was Morais's fault, just a bad deal all the way around. He was a bad dude for sure