Oak Hill GNC

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Edited Date/Time 3/13/2016 9:05pm
Anyone have a live timing link?
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kzizok
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3/13/2016 10:09am Edited Date/Time 3/13/2016 10:10am
I have searched high and low with no luck. Not a good sign of turnout.

I did run across live timing at Millcreek which is going on simultaneously and their turnout is very poor.

Amatuer racing is looking bleak.
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3/13/2016 11:03am
kzizok wrote:
I have searched high and low with no luck. Not a good sign of turnout. I did run across live timing at Millcreek which is going...
I have searched high and low with no luck. Not a good sign of turnout.

I did run across live timing at Millcreek which is going on simultaneously and their turnout is very poor.

Amatuer racing is looking bleak.
No live timing for Oakhill.

Hard to say but I think it kills both Oakhill and Millcreek at the same time. I know a lot of people dropped out of Oakhill due to tons of rain prior. If you combine the turnouts of both at one race it would be decent plus bring in others.

I think the JS7 Spring Classic at Freestone coming up this week will be pretty good turnout.

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kzizok wrote:
I have searched high and low with no luck. Not a good sign of turnout. I did run across live timing at Millcreek which is going...
I have searched high and low with no luck. Not a good sign of turnout.

I did run across live timing at Millcreek which is going on simultaneously and their turnout is very poor.

Amatuer racing is looking bleak.
neysbo wrote:
No live timing for Oakhill. Hard to say but I think it kills both Oakhill and Millcreek at the same time. I know a lot of...
No live timing for Oakhill.

Hard to say but I think it kills both Oakhill and Millcreek at the same time. I know a lot of people dropped out of Oakhill due to tons of rain prior. If you combine the turnouts of both at one race it would be decent plus bring in others.

I think the JS7 Spring Classic at Freestone coming up this week will be pretty good turnout.

I agree. Similar to the Ponca/Norman NMA debacle. Norman race is gone and Ponca turnout is depressing.

When the traditional Texas two step ended with Whitney going away, promoters scrambled to get a piece of the action which resulted in four races, in three states with two being run in top of the other.

No doubt there are fewer racers but add in the above scenario and numbers will be down. However, I still believe that am MX is at a level that should alarm people to the future if MX overall. It is at a crisis level.
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3/13/2016 11:44am
Mill Creek has half the entries that were at each round of the TX Winter Series. Schoolboy 2 has 9 entries, 250B 11 entries. Pitiful.

One year Lake Whitney had over 3,000 entries.

Freestone should be good.

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Freestone has around 900 pre entries so far, by the time sign up is done, it will be looking good.

It will be good to see 2 or 3 divisions of classes again.
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3/13/2016 12:29pm
I've been seeing this coming for around 15 years now. I used to do Whitney vet classes every year. Then Mosier Valley GNC vet after that. We would have to double gate so many classes, & you wondered if every race could be run, because of time.
Now, racing against 9 or 10 competitors. Really sucks. The manufacturers will always back the fastest and bring them up to pros in the sport, so what's happening at the amateur level won't be seen in the pros for awhile. Bringing in the best from other countries also fills the pro gates.
Too bad for Oak Hill as it is such a nice facility, great track, great prep work, and professionally ran.
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3/13/2016 12:43pm
I've been looking at their Instagram and results and feel pretty bad for them. Turnout looked terrible. I think the Daytona Supercross Amateur race is what's killing it.

I love Oak Hill. Track is always well maintained and prepped. People are nice. They have regular practice and lots of racing. Hope things get better for them in the years to come.
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I was there for most of the day today. The turnout was uh, not great. The classes the Geico boys were in had maybe 12-14 riders max. Some classes had 3-8 riders.
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3/13/2016 2:57pm Edited Date/Time 3/13/2016 2:58pm
I agree about Oak Hill being a nice place. Maybe when the race is scheduled hurts it the most. Kind of like it is in the middle of a shit sandwich. Perhaps if it was scheduled more at the beginning or end of these four races.
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Both events had over 400 entries but I agree it hurts for them to be right on top of each other. It would make more sense for Millcreek to be this week, people could stop there on their way up from Daytona and then head to Freestone. Both events had to deal with a good bit of rain, but Oakhill definitely had much more. It sucks for both promoters I am sure. I haven't been to Oakhill but hear it is really good. Millcreek is a great track, one of my son's favorites. We are heading to Oakhill this May to check it out. He's been sidelined for the past four months after a compound fracture to his forearm and then getting compartment syndrome. It was a rough winter in our house, ready to see him do what he loves to do again.
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I'm sure the weather didn't help. It was a swamp at Oakhill all week long. They ended up having to cram the whole week's schedule into two days.
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3/13/2016 5:27pm Edited Date/Time 3/13/2016 5:31pm
Bad weather really would only affect a very small percentage as most plan ahead. It was always a forgone conclusion that part of the week at Ponca would be a monsoon and people still came in droves.
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It would be good if the Freestone/Oakhill 2 step gained traction like Mosier/Whitney did. And Ponca would get back right, always around 2,000, and the week before LL.

Not sure what happened with Ron Henrickson, but he ran some really good events for 3 decades, NMA used to be one of the best.

Where's Jerry Surber when you need him.
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CCMX wrote:
It would be good if the Freestone/Oakhill 2 step gained traction like Mosier/Whitney did. And Ponca would get back right, always around 2,000, and the week...
It would be good if the Freestone/Oakhill 2 step gained traction like Mosier/Whitney did. And Ponca would get back right, always around 2,000, and the week before LL.

Not sure what happened with Ron Henrickson, but he ran some really good events for 3 decades, NMA used to be one of the best.

Where's Jerry Surber when you need him.
Yeah, about Surber.

I think the death of the girl at Ponca was the straw for AMBUCs to get rid of him. Add to that, that the NMA had pissed so many people off over the years and how he handled the Branson flood where the beginnings of Hendricksons end.

NMA had big events like Branson and the world mini that went away because of low turnouts. City of Ponca changing promoters and running the Norman race on top of the new Ponca lead to the Norman race going away. NMA didnt have anything left. For now, the NMA quietly went away. I could tell that Ron rubbed people the wrong way but I always thought that, for the most part, that he ran good events. He had a long track record of running some of the highest attended am nationals for nearly 40 years. Yeah, the pre-parking deal at Ponca seemed like a big hassle but most people dont undrrstand that was a good problem to have, related to a large number of riders that went.

Finally, add all of that to a recession, scheduling issues, and the fear of the unknown lead to a low turnout and probably lost a lot of the number of riders that decided not to even bother. I firmly believe the number of people that stayed away were a lot larger in numbers than originally thought. In other words, I think that instead of going to Ponca or Norman, people decided not to go to either.
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Norman is still having a race July 8-10th. It is AMA now. 3 moto format. A lot of local sponsors trying to help build it up.
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3/13/2016 7:44pm Edited Date/Time 3/13/2016 7:46pm
CCMX wrote:
Anyone have a live timing link?
Ccmx- I sent you a message. I apologize for not having anything to do with your post.
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kzizok wrote:
Bad weather really would only affect a very small percentage as most plan ahead. It was always a forgone conclusion that part of the week at...
Bad weather really would only affect a very small percentage as most plan ahead. It was always a forgone conclusion that part of the week at Ponca would be a monsoon and people still came in droves.
When the schedule went out the window with no end to the rain in sight on Wednesday, a bunch of people left.

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