Full leather MX boots?

Manco
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I was wondering if anyone has suggestions on full leather MX boots.

Long story short I have been riding the below pictured old skool Fox boots for years. I loved them. Finally the sole started tearing apart so I tossed them and picked up a a pair of newer plastic MX boots. The plastic boots fit like crap, felt like concrete and in general were worthless. So then I went out and spent twice the cash on another pair of plastic MX boots. While these second boots were a little better then the first plastic boots the story is the same, ok fit, bulky, no feels the shifter, brake lever or even the footpegs for that matter. The first pair of plastic boots I bought were $100. The second pair were $200. Today I go into my local shop and the sales guy is like, "Hurrrrr Spend $400 on these marginally better plastic boots because huurrr everyone loves wearing $400 plastic moon boots at the track Bro!"

Needless to say I didn't buy the $400 moonboots. I have started shopping into leather off road boots and the only boots that come close to what I am looking for are Trials boots which generally have too little ankle support. Granted I would like more flex in the ankle then the average MX boot but the flex of a boot like the SIDI Discovery Rain is just too much. A couple of other Trials boots I am looking into are the Gaerne Balance Pro-Tech and the Forma Boulder.

Here are the links on these Trials boots

SIDI Discovery Rain (a beefier version of their Trial Zero) Way too flexible in the ankle though.

http://www.sidisport.com/en/products/motorcycle/boots/offroad/discovery-rain

Forma Boulder

http://www.formabootsusa.com/products/forma-boulder-motorcycle-boots

Gaerne Balance Pro-Tech

http://www.gaerne.com/boots/en/articolo/3/13/23/2524-001/black/

The only actual leather MX boot I have found so far is a low dollar boot made by Ocelot Racing the SX3. I know nothing of this company though as I have never heard of them before. I am just now looking more into their products. Reviews on the web are here and there. The boots are sold by Chaparral for $90 which is a little on the low end for quality.

http://www.chaparral-racing.com/product/ocelot-sx3-boots/124-5407.aspx

Can anyone out there recommend a quality leather boot for MX? I would preferably like to find a boot crafted by artisans in Italy though I would consider lesser boots as well.
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Manco
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Here are the pics of my old Fox boots. I would really like to find another set of new pair of boots like this. I may have to dig around on fleabay for relics though if new boots can't be found.









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3/3/2016 9:09pm Edited Date/Time 3/3/2016 9:12pm
You sound like youre already set and wont change your mind, but a set of Fox Instincts or Alpinestars Tech 10's provide a hell of a lot more protection for your ankles/feet than old school leather boots.

Using a $100 or $200 boot as a yardstick isnt really a fair comparison to how much a $500 boot is gonna protect you. Cheaper boots dont have the artificial hinge that the expensive ones do.
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3/3/2016 9:30pm Edited Date/Time 3/3/2016 9:31pm
moto455va wrote:
You sound like youre already set and wont change your mind, but a set of Fox Instincts or Alpinestars Tech 10's provide a hell of a...
You sound like youre already set and wont change your mind, but a set of Fox Instincts or Alpinestars Tech 10's provide a hell of a lot more protection for your ankles/feet than old school leather boots.

Using a $100 or $200 boot as a yardstick isnt really a fair comparison to how much a $500 boot is gonna protect you. Cheaper boots dont have the artificial hinge that the expensive ones do.
These are all good points. Its not about protection for me so much as it is control and feel. I will take the loss of protection if it means I can flick a shifter again. I will try some fancier plastic boots before committing to buy leather. I just don't have high hopes for the feel I am after. One thing that is nice if I go leather boots is that if they do turn out to be too soft a shoe cobbler can add layers of leather and other materials for a stiffer boot.

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I gotta post a pic of these super victory boots. Big thanks for the tip on these boots. So sweeeeeet!

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Manco wrote:
These are all good points. Its not about protection for me so much as it is control and feel. I will take the loss of protection...
These are all good points. Its not about protection for me so much as it is control and feel. I will take the loss of protection if it means I can flick a shifter again. I will try some fancier plastic boots before committing to buy leather. I just don't have high hopes for the feel I am after. One thing that is nice if I go leather boots is that if they do turn out to be too soft a shoe cobbler can add layers of leather and other materials for a stiffer boot.
If feel is important to you then you really should try some new Fox Instincts. They are fantastic.
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arrrrrr Alpinestars stopped making these boots. Nothing is left in my size.
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Manco wrote:
These are all good points. Its not about protection for me so much as it is control and feel. I will take the loss of protection...
These are all good points. Its not about protection for me so much as it is control and feel. I will take the loss of protection if it means I can flick a shifter again. I will try some fancier plastic boots before committing to buy leather. I just don't have high hopes for the feel I am after. One thing that is nice if I go leather boots is that if they do turn out to be too soft a shoe cobbler can add layers of leather and other materials for a stiffer boot.
731chopper wrote:
If feel is important to you then you really should try some new Fox Instincts. They are fantastic.
Will do. Thanks for the tip.
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Manco wrote:
arrrrrr Alpinestars stopped making these boots. Nothing is left in my size. [img]http://reactimg.com/images/11.jpg[/img]
arrrrrr Alpinestars stopped making these boots. Nothing is left in my size.
Dang, I didnt catch that.

I know the new age boots feel stiff at first, but once you wear them in and get used to them, they feel like sneakers.
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3/3/2016 10:23pm Edited Date/Time 3/3/2016 10:24pm
Manco wrote:
These are all good points. Its not about protection for me so much as it is control and feel. I will take the loss of protection...
These are all good points. Its not about protection for me so much as it is control and feel. I will take the loss of protection if it means I can flick a shifter again. I will try some fancier plastic boots before committing to buy leather. I just don't have high hopes for the feel I am after. One thing that is nice if I go leather boots is that if they do turn out to be too soft a shoe cobbler can add layers of leather and other materials for a stiffer boot.
731chopper wrote:
If feel is important to you then you really should try some new Fox Instincts. They are fantastic.
All right I decided to do the right thing and tossed money at a high dollar pair of modern plastic boots. I went with the Fox Instincts because everyone seems to be raving about them in reviews. After stumbling around on the net seeing the Instincts priced around $400-$550 I found some ugly colored 2016 Instincts getting BTFO for $335. I had to swoop them up. If they kick butt then sweet. If they aren't what I am after then meh, I will will send them back.

Lol What a thread.

First Post. " Huuuurrrrr I wantz leather boots.

Several posts later: "Hurrrr I bought plastic boots.

If anyone coming late to the thread has info on leather boots post it up anyway. I may still pick up a pair of leather boots too if I find something nice.
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Boy I sure hope these beauties are worth the kaching I just through down.

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What site did you get those on? Thats a good deal
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moto455va wrote:
What site did you get those on? Thats a good deal
BTO is the site blowing out these boots. I couldn't believe the deal when I saw it. I double checked the wording on the page and compared the pics to pics at the Fox site. The deal seems legit. Maybe the boots are 2015 closeouts labeled as 2016?

Instinct Libra (Size 12 only) http://www.btosports.com/p/fox-2016-libra-le-instinct-boot

Instinct Union (Lots of Sizes) http://www.btosports.com/p/fox-2016-union-le-instinct-boot

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I have a pair of the Gaerne Balence is wear for Dual Sport riding but they are wayyyyyy to soft for MX or even trail riding. Basically like wear high top sneakers. Super comfortable walking around, but nothing for safety's sake.
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3/4/2016 3:05pm Edited Date/Time 3/4/2016 3:07pm
Manco wrote:
Boy I sure hope these beauties are worth the kaching I just through down. [img]https://www.dirtbikebitz.com/images/products/2016_FOX_Racing_Redbud_Flexair_Union_LE_0014_MX15_12253_246_2.jpg[/img]
Boy I sure hope these beauties are worth the kaching I just through down.

hope you like them, i was going to suggest fox comp 5 (i think they are all leather).

i own both and like the comp 5 much more.
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What kind of riding do you do? Is it mostly trails or off-road? I kind of get that impression since feel is so much more important to you. I hope to God you weren't hucking any huge jumps in those spanked out Fox's my man! hahaaa

I used to wear A-stars Tech-7's back in the day. They were basically just like your old Fox's. Got SG-10's when they first came out in 2004. Just like you I was like Oh hell no.. moon boots.. can't feel the shifter. Was even overjumping things due to the loss of sensation of the pegs through the stiff soles. I thought I wouldn't get used to them but after just a few rides I loved them Got so much less fatigued in the feet since my soles were no longer wrapping around the pegs on landings. Soon after that, I pulled my old Tech-7's out because I didn't want to mess my new SG-10's up in a sand race. Did 1-lap of practice and pulled back in to get my Gaerne's. Clapped out old leather boots felt like a freakin loose bag on my feet. No protection or support. Never went back.
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I did try a pair of the Fox Comp 5. They were the $200 boots I mentioned in the first post. Those boots have some leather but are mostly synthetic. They were decent comfort wise. Feel of the bike and shifting wise they seemed no better then the Fly Maverick boots I also have. The Comp 5 boots as well as the Mavericks strike me as good boots for sitting on a bike or ATV and just cruising along. As soon as technical aspects arise the boots blow it due to lack of maneuverability, large bulk and numb feel.
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3/5/2016 9:20am Edited Date/Time 3/5/2016 9:23am
FGR01 wrote:
What kind of riding do you do? Is it mostly trails or off-road? I kind of get that impression since feel is so much more important...
What kind of riding do you do? Is it mostly trails or off-road? I kind of get that impression since feel is so much more important to you. I hope to God you weren't hucking any huge jumps in those spanked out Fox's my man! hahaaa

I used to wear A-stars Tech-7's back in the day. They were basically just like your old Fox's. Got SG-10's when they first came out in 2004. Just like you I was like Oh hell no.. moon boots.. can't feel the shifter. Was even overjumping things due to the loss of sensation of the pegs through the stiff soles. I thought I wouldn't get used to them but after just a few rides I loved them Got so much less fatigued in the feet since my soles were no longer wrapping around the pegs on landings. Soon after that, I pulled my old Tech-7's out because I didn't want to mess my new SG-10's up in a sand race. Did 1-lap of practice and pulled back in to get my Gaerne's. Clapped out old leather boots felt like a freakin loose bag on my feet. No protection or support. Never went back.
Laughing this post.

Well actually last year I came to MX from the trail and am now mostly riding MX these days. I am working my way through learning to huck big jumps and yes I was doing it in those beat @zz Fox boots pictured in the beginning of the thread. If you look close there is a chunk of the sole missing on the right boot. That chunk got torn out during a hard landing on the last track session I wore those boots. When I saw that missing chunk I thought to myself, "The jumps are only going to get bigger from here on out so maybe its time to get boots built for it."

The next week I bought a used pair of $25 Fly Maverick boots I have now just to try a new plastic style. I sold those beat @zz Fox boots for $25 the next day just so I wouldn't go back if the plastic boots were lame. It was just like you said though switching to plastic blew the deal. No feeling in the boots, can't find the shifter, boots literally getting jammed between the levers and the bike. The first session in those Mavericks was horrible though it has gotten a little better since after an adjustment period. If I had those leather boots still I would have already switched back. I am glad they are gone though as it is time to move forward to a better boot.

After starting this thread and reading moto455va 's post concerning well made boots perform better and offer much better protection then leather as well as talking to others who said the same thing I faced the music and went with the Instincts. A majority of my future plans for off road riding will be the MX track. As such is the case a modern high performance MX boot must be the way to go. Reading through your post sealed the deal.

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Well Im glad I pointed you in the right direction. If youre doing a lot of MX, you need the extra stiffness that the high end boots give. Getting your foot caught in a rut at high speed, coming up short on a jump. The softer leather boots just dont have the extra support to keep your ankles protected from that stuff.

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