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I don't think Rossi kicked him. I think they were run in together so close that MM got himself or his bike hooked up on something. Probably felt like he got kicked, and he may even still believe it. I don't think the tape shows a kick, but they obviously got knotted up.
No one is ever going to distill these two stories to a single undisputed narrative. And it's no longer what happened that matters (maybe still to the CAS panel, but maybe not) and is dictating what people are claiming, it's whose side you're on.
That being said I watched the crash, and the laps leading up to it several times 20+ easy. I don't know any of the proper rider edicate, but I raced moto and off-road for quite awhile. MM was toying with Rossi and made several close passes that seen him cut back across immediately as he was clearing Rossi's bike. I thought they were going to clip each other on more than one occasion. I'm not a "you can't race the front runners GUY", but when a guy is speeding up and slowing down to agitate another racer that is a problem. It would be sickening if that was the deciding factor of the championship outcome.
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This has been a great thread so far! Lots of information and good views.
In 2015 and most years in general, the hondas have been very, very powerful at the top end and corner exit, yet not so much on braking feel, entry and often having mid-corner issues (Stoner had huge issues with chatter his last year). Hondas seem to be faster when they can be picked up and driven hard out of corner exits, and generally have the upper hand in the top end (unlike honda MX bikes lol)
The yamahas, being mostly designed around Lorenzo's super smooth riding, generally carry more corner speed and are a LOT more sensitive to the tire compound (it seems for Lorenzo, at least).
Between Rossi having the upper hand in corner entry and speed, and braking weight transfer, and Marquez having the upper hand in corner exit, scary on-the-limit braking, and generally a higher risk tolerance for sliding the front and rear tire, many many passing zones are created between these two.
Also, Rossi tends to only stick to the lines he knows are fastest...Marquez, because of his erratic maximum braking style, has a much higher tolerance of different corner entrance points and letting the bike slide into place, which has allowed him the ultimate one-lap pace, a ridiculously successful 30 poles in 53 races.
Marquez and Rossi put on a clinic of MotoGP passing for a few laps, and it was really sad to see it end. Of course it was costing them time, but the show was fantastic. To be fair, the only time anyone was close to crashing was when Rossi almost lost his front end, when, after cutting under Marquez in 10, tried to keep Marquez from cutting back under him in turn 11.
https://youtu.be/TO9pHW30lG0
what's funny for vital is that MM and VR both take the dirt riding training VERY seriously.
MINews - Media renowned Spanish Marca re-launch the shocking news in Spain, mentioned there was a secret meeting between Jorge Lorenzo and Marc Marquez in Andora are discussing plans to tackle measures to be world champion Valentino Rossi MotoGP this season.
This news strengthens the case semakim Valentino Rossi before the race Philip Island between Marc and Jorge also in electronic data analysis on the RC213V Honda Motor belonged to Marquez and Lorenzo's M1
Marca and the Italian La Repubblica has included reporting on meeting Lorenzo and Marquez in Andora before the GP of Aragon or rather before diving series race in Asia.
(L'incontro è stato in rendere Rossi sconvolto)
"The meeting made the Rossi upset," wrote the title of the front page of La Repubblica and Marca Spain
But Lorenzo and Marquez reportedly not meet the letter kites race director to provide clarifications related to the news. Obviously this situation makes competition ahead of the final series last race in Valencia increasingly distorted and heated.
Previously, Rossi accused Marquez more pleased to see Lorenzo champion in a press conference before the session of the Malaysian Grand Prix rolling, last week. However, Marquez has denied the claims he just eyeing podium despite the champion opportunities are closed.
But the emotional friction Rossi and Marquez inevitable. The peak in the actual race at Sepang International Circuit, Sunday (25/10/2015) yesterday. Both are bumper that makes Marquez fall and eventually sentenced Rossi MotoGP Race Direction.
All we need now in Valencia is an Alessi lazergate incident on the startline
Rossi and Lorenzo then get back into the race of their lives, fight back into the lead, only for their chains to snap simultaneously as they exit the final corner and end up in a dead heat push across the line!
Both end up in medical control being given IV's, punch the actual doctor (not Rossi) and tests reveal they are using Adderal and haven't filed any TUE's!
Have I missed anything?
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It's not about one single incident Rob.
I wish it was.
How it has gotten to this point, and this is not a good point for Motogp in many a persons eyes, is a shame.
I see other guys, on other forums, die hard fans that have followed this sport much closer than most of us,
fed up and pissed at the whole thing.
I blame the officials, from the top on down, for where we are today.
To not throw a judgement penalty at Assen, to refuse a request from a major team to sit down with the 2 riders concerned, then throw a judgement the other way that may very well decide a Championship, then
to throw out a press release basically telling everyone to shut up and just listen to them, well, they have nobody but themselves to blame when people wonder what's going on.
Hey, Watergate was just a break in, Lance was just eating good, Those FIFA guys were just having coffee together.
In this day and age, perception is everything, they should have known better.
On 4 November 2015, a preliminary hearing was held at the headquarters of the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) in Lausanne in the matter Valentino Rossi v. the Fédération Internationale de Motocyclisme. The FIM was represented by its Legal Director, Mr Richard Perret.
Following the hearing, the CAS issued an Order dismissing the application for a stay filed by Mr Rossi concerning the decision rendered on 25 October 2015 by the FIM Stewards (see Order attached).
The CAS ruling on the request for stay of execution does not prejudge the final award on the merits of the case.
In appealing to the CAS against the decision of the FIM Stewards, Mr Rossi seeks annulment or modification of the FIM Stewards’ decision taken at the Shell Malaysia Motorcycle Grand Prix in Sepang, in which the FIM Stewards confirmed the 3 penalty points awarded by the Race Direction to Mr Rossi following an incident on Turn 14.
The FIM takes note of the ruling of the CAS.
As a consequence of this ruling, at the Gran Premi de la Comunitat Valenciana, last race of the FIM World Championship Grand Prix, Mr Rossi will start from the last position on the Grid.
At the Valencia GP on Thursday the Permanent Bureau of the FIM MotoGP™ World Championship addressed the MotoGP™ riders.
Following the events that occurred at the Malaysian Grand Prix and further developments over the following week and given the exceptional circumstances, the Permanent Bureau of the FIM MotoGP™ World Championship, comprising of Messrs Vito Ippolito, FIM President, and Carmelo Ezpeleta, Chief Executive Officer of Dorna Sports, summoned all MotoGP™ riders and their respective team managers to address the situation on Thursday 5th November at 15.30 local time. This is the official statement from the meeting:
“First and foremost, sport must prevail. This Sunday is the last race of the year, and it is sport that needs to win.
We are proud of the magnificent races you have given us this year. They continue to foster interest in our championship all around the world. We also want to thank you for that.
Over the past days, there have unfortunately been some controversies that have surpassed the limits of a healthy passion and, on occasions, logic itself. You have millions of followers all around the world. They watch and admire your achievements on the track. And they also listen closely to what you say.
What you do and say could have consequences that are not in keeping with the noble values of our sport.
In the name of the Permanent Bureau, the FIM and the promoter, Dorna, I would like to remind you that we are the only sporting organisation in the world that draws up its regulations for one of its flagship Championships with the agreement of all parties. That is the role of the Grand Prix Commission, where the FIM, Dorna, MSMA and IRTA are all represented. We know that the rules can always be improved, and having said that, I repeat that every change will be made with the consent of those concerned. In addition to the GP Commission, we have also set up the Safety Commission, in which riders are consulted on a regular basis about safety issues. Here too we are pioneers in the world of motor sport.
Once again, we want you to be aware that we intend to pursue our policy of keeping the doors open in order to hear your opinions and to allow you to contribute to making this great Championship even better. We would like to emphasise, that for next year, some changes will be made to prevent this from happening again.
We also want to remind you of the values of our sport: exemplarity, fair play, sportsmanship and courtesy. Our officials will be vigilant in observing the fair play and sporting behaviour of every one of you and will be very strict with any infringement of our sporting rules.
We must remember that we organise and practise sport at the professional level, not only because it is entertaining and extraordinary but also to showcase the values we believe in. The next race will be broadcast live and followed by a very large number of spectators. We therefore have ahead of us a golden opportunity to demonstrate to the world the highest values of our sport, and in so doing, to set a great example. We would also like to assure everybody that this weekend we will pay even more attention to what occurs on the track for the benefit of the sport.
Thank you all and have a good race!”
On the other hand if he wins, he is set up for one of the most epic finishes of all time. GOAT.
Pretty sure they would have had little problem on the irreparable harm arm, but as I noted earlier no one at CAS or in any court of law is likely to second guess the race officials' decisions made at the event unless there was no evidence whatsoever that Rossi initiated what led to the crash (that one turn, not all of the other stuff before that people want to bring in to debate). That's a pretty standard approach.
Or the entire grid minus JL and MM pulls over and lets Rossi go straight to the front.
The posturing by VR at the beginning of that corner sure makes it look like he was frustrated as hell (I would be too), but it didn't look like an intentional kick to the handlebars as MM is accusing.
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