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Does anyone offer this look alike mag coating for the engine cases? Have a few parts for my kx250 I want to have done thank you
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post a picture of what color/finish youre trying to emulate and i can recommend something.
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JBernard_401 wrote:
post a picture of what color/finish youre trying to emulate and i can recommend something.


Something like this, Iam working on my first ever build and would like to copy a few things like this for my 04 kx250
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JBernard_401 wrote:
post a picture of what color/finish youre trying to emulate and i can recommend something.
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[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/10/22/108750/s1200_image.jpg[/img] Something like this, Iam working on my first ever build and would like to copy a few things like this for my 04 kx250


Something like this, Iam working on my first ever build and would like to copy a few things like this for my 04 kx250
I love the inner clutch cover on this motor! Im actually gonna have motowhips do my inner cover this winter. Curious to what Jbernard has to say, he definitely knows his moto
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CrGuy2T 10/22/2015 8:21pm
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That is a stock alluminum inner case hard anodized and the outter cover is the mysterious "dx" coating. This "dx" coating is more of a hammered finish krypton spray paint with matter clear over the top. If I'm correct the color is amber rose.
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JBernard_401 10/22/2015 8:25pm
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bead blast the case cover then hard anodize. on the clutch cover cerakote would be easiest solution. you could also bead blast it as well to take the lustre off and do it type II with a bronze color dye. but it would get worn off pretty easily. just like any anodized ignition cover does.
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JBernard_401 wrote:
post a picture of what color/finish youre trying to emulate and i can recommend something.
jason486 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/10/22/108750/s1200_image.jpg[/img] Something like this, Iam working on my first ever build and would like to copy a few things like this for my 04 kx250


Something like this, Iam working on my first ever build and would like to copy a few things like this for my 04 kx250
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I love the inner clutch cover on this motor! Im actually gonna have motowhips do my inner cover this winter. Curious to what Jbernard has to...
I love the inner clutch cover on this motor! Im actually gonna have motowhips do my inner cover this winter. Curious to what Jbernard has to say, he definitely knows his moto
What does moto whips charge for that case service I've seen them clean them up just wonder what it cost
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JBernard_401 10/22/2015 9:20pm
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hard anodizing is cheap. ive got a place out in CA that has dome some stuff for me for good prices. I'd venture to say a small part like that is sub 50$

most likely motowhips is outsourcing any hardcoating, as its a bit more complex. hardcoating is high high voltage (or current, cant remember) and usually a chilled acid bath due to temps. so the equipment is more $ than type II.
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Iam in Orange County ca, there's all kinds of people who powder coat and do annodizing I just want to make sure where I send them will Kinda have an idea of what Iam after, I wana send the calipers parts of the motor
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well cerakote is different than powdercoat. i wouldn't recommend powder on anything really.
i have a brake master cylinder coming back from cerakote next week. i can send over a picture to show what it looks like. cant really get a thin matte looking finish with powdercoat.
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jason486 10/23/2015 12:45am
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well cerakote is different than powdercoat. i wouldn't recommend powder on anything really. i have a brake master cylinder coming back from cerakote next week. i...
well cerakote is different than powdercoat. i wouldn't recommend powder on anything really.
i have a brake master cylinder coming back from cerakote next week. i can send over a picture to show what it looks like. cant really get a thin matte looking finish with powdercoat.
Yes shoot me a pic of when you get it, where did you send it?
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well cerakote is different than powdercoat. i wouldn't recommend powder on anything really. i have a brake master cylinder coming back from cerakote next week. i...
well cerakote is different than powdercoat. i wouldn't recommend powder on anything really.
i have a brake master cylinder coming back from cerakote next week. i can send over a picture to show what it looks like. cant really get a thin matte looking finish with powdercoat.
Just noticed you're in Spring Texas. I live in Katy. Where do you ride the 500 at?
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Just noticed you're in Spring Texas. I live in Katy. Where do you ride the 500 at?
500 is the everlasting project unfortunately. so not done yet.
But i ride the 300sx at 3 palms and swan up in tyler. may be going out sunday to 3palms. feel free to hit me up if youre planning a ride.
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Yes shoot me a pic of when you get it, where did you send it?
guy i used has a gun finishing shop out in CA. called AO Sword.
like anything, key is usually to find a smaller shop that can hook you up on price.
he is doing it for 40$ and i will definitely post a picture when it comes in.
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Just noticed you're in Spring Texas. I live in Katy. Where do you ride the 500 at?
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500 is the everlasting project unfortunately. so not done yet. But i ride the 300sx at 3 palms and swan up in tyler. may be going...
500 is the everlasting project unfortunately. so not done yet.
But i ride the 300sx at 3 palms and swan up in tyler. may be going out sunday to 3palms. feel free to hit me up if youre planning a ride.
I'm going to try to find someone to cover me. We currently have an issue at work that's requiring 24/7 engineering coverage so I've been stuck manning that 8am-4pm every day. It's great during the week because that's my normal work schedule but on the weekends it kind of blows.
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jason486 wrote:
Yes shoot me a pic of when you get it, where did you send it?
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guy i used has a gun finishing shop out in CA. called AO Sword. like anything, key is usually to find a smaller shop that can...
guy i used has a gun finishing shop out in CA. called AO Sword.
like anything, key is usually to find a smaller shop that can hook you up on price.
he is doing it for 40$ and i will definitely post a picture when it comes in.
I have a guy here in Houston who will do small parts in cerakote if you're interested in trying him out.

I have a spare cover off something he can coat or possibly some cylinders. Let me see what I have laying around and I'll have him do it.
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Yes shoot me a pic of when you get it, where did you send it?
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guy i used has a gun finishing shop out in CA. called AO Sword. like anything, key is usually to find a smaller shop that can...
guy i used has a gun finishing shop out in CA. called AO Sword.
like anything, key is usually to find a smaller shop that can hook you up on price.
he is doing it for 40$ and i will definitely post a picture when it comes in.
Can u post pics? I cant upload photos from my phone anymore for this site I dont know why. I got pics from motowhips and jeskemxcustoms id like to share and the look im going for.
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jason486 wrote:
Yes shoot me a pic of when you get it, where did you send it?
JBernard_401 wrote:
guy i used has a gun finishing shop out in CA. called AO Sword. like anything, key is usually to find a smaller shop that can...
guy i used has a gun finishing shop out in CA. called AO Sword.
like anything, key is usually to find a smaller shop that can hook you up on price.
he is doing it for 40$ and i will definitely post a picture when it comes in.
WileCyot wrote:
I have a guy here in Houston who will do small parts in cerakote if you're interested in trying him out. I have a spare cover...
I have a guy here in Houston who will do small parts in cerakote if you're interested in trying him out.

I have a spare cover off something he can coat or possibly some cylinders. Let me see what I have laying around and I'll have him do it.
I've got a clutch cover, ignition cover and a hub I'd like to give it a go on. I'm in Austin, so not too far.
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I didnt think there was much interest in cerakote, etc. in moto. Ive been doing it for a few years at my shop. I anodize as well. Do aluminum chroming on small parts too.

The bronze look is easy to achieve in a matte.

As for durability, if it is done properly and sealed correctly, using nickel acetate as the sealing bath, it can take boot rubbing a lot longer than most anodizing out there. Cerakote is cool stuff too.

I'd like to see the finished pics as well.

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JBernard_401 wrote:
guy i used has a gun finishing shop out in CA. called AO Sword. like anything, key is usually to find a smaller shop that can...
guy i used has a gun finishing shop out in CA. called AO Sword.
like anything, key is usually to find a smaller shop that can hook you up on price.
he is doing it for 40$ and i will definitely post a picture when it comes in.
WileCyot wrote:
I have a guy here in Houston who will do small parts in cerakote if you're interested in trying him out. I have a spare cover...
I have a guy here in Houston who will do small parts in cerakote if you're interested in trying him out.

I have a spare cover off something he can coat or possibly some cylinders. Let me see what I have laying around and I'll have him do it.
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I've got a clutch cover, ignition cover and a hub I'd like to give it a go on. I'm in Austin, so not too far.
I talked to my buddy about it and he said one piece at a time will cost more than multiple due to the setup time as well as it just being a hassle for him to do one small part. He doesn't make a living off doing this stuff. If a lot of people wanted stuff done all at once he could get the price down pretty cheap.
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I didnt think there was much interest in cerakote, etc. in moto. Ive been doing it for a few years at my shop. I anodize as...
I didnt think there was much interest in cerakote, etc. in moto. Ive been doing it for a few years at my shop. I anodize as well. Do aluminum chroming on small parts too.

The bronze look is easy to achieve in a matte.

As for durability, if it is done properly and sealed correctly, using nickel acetate as the sealing bath, it can take boot rubbing a lot longer than most anodizing out there. Cerakote is cool stuff too.

I'd like to see the finished pics as well.
Does aluminum come out the same as magnesium? My clutch cover and ignition cover are mag, but hubs and triple clamps are aluminum. Wondering if the look would be close.
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Dtat720 10/24/2015 9:15am
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Magnesium "can" come out like aluminum, but colorfasting will happen a lot faster than alum. Colors on mag dont typically come out good. Thats why you usually see bronze or gray.

Triple clamps wont come out the same as other parts because they are cast. You can get the hubs pretty close to the clamps, enough to not tell the difference, but they will be hard to match other pieces that are billet or bar stock. Different grain structures color differently.
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HackMan162 10/24/2015 9:33am
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I am wanting to do a dull matte bronze on all of it. What's your opinion? Will it look pretty good? Can you PM me a price?
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I dont touch mag. Wont machine it, wont ano it, that stuff is way too volitile. It can flash fire in a split second and when anodizing, if the rectifier isnt exactly perfect at the start, it will corrode and pit instantly.
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Dtat720 wrote:
I didnt think there was much interest in cerakote, etc. in moto. Ive been doing it for a few years at my shop. I anodize as...
I didnt think there was much interest in cerakote, etc. in moto. Ive been doing it for a few years at my shop. I anodize as well. Do aluminum chroming on small parts too.

The bronze look is easy to achieve in a matte.

As for durability, if it is done properly and sealed correctly, using nickel acetate as the sealing bath, it can take boot rubbing a lot longer than most anodizing out there. Cerakote is cool stuff too.

I'd like to see the finished pics as well.
I have a few engine parts and a set of PC clamps I want to get done can I send you a pic and quote me a price? My email is jasonwilliford21@yahoo.com
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Dtat720 wrote:
I didnt think there was much interest in cerakote, etc. in moto. Ive been doing it for a few years at my shop. I anodize as...
I didnt think there was much interest in cerakote, etc. in moto. Ive been doing it for a few years at my shop. I anodize as well. Do aluminum chroming on small parts too.

The bronze look is easy to achieve in a matte.

As for durability, if it is done properly and sealed correctly, using nickel acetate as the sealing bath, it can take boot rubbing a lot longer than most anodizing out there. Cerakote is cool stuff too.

I'd like to see the finished pics as well.
Id be interested aswell with a small little list of stuff for my build this winter
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Dtat720 wrote:
I didnt think there was much interest in cerakote, etc. in moto. Ive been doing it for a few years at my shop. I anodize as...
I didnt think there was much interest in cerakote, etc. in moto. Ive been doing it for a few years at my shop. I anodize as well. Do aluminum chroming on small parts too.

The bronze look is easy to achieve in a matte.

As for durability, if it is done properly and sealed correctly, using nickel acetate as the sealing bath, it can take boot rubbing a lot longer than most anodizing out there. Cerakote is cool stuff too.

I'd like to see the finished pics as well.
What is your contact info? I'd like some stuff done as well.
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Dtat720@yahoo.com is my contact. I dont mind doing small batches. I have 2 set ups, one for small parts in small runs and one for bigger parts in small runs. It isnt anything large scale at all. We machine pressure bleed caps for siemens that have to be gold anodized and lab equipment that is black ano. I use it for myself most of the time for my projects. Perk of owning the business with my family lol
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Dtat720@yahoo.com is my contact. I dont mind doing small batches. I have 2 set ups, one for small parts in small runs and one for bigger...
Dtat720@yahoo.com is my contact. I dont mind doing small batches. I have 2 set ups, one for small parts in small runs and one for bigger parts in small runs. It isnt anything large scale at all. We machine pressure bleed caps for siemens that have to be gold anodized and lab equipment that is black ano. I use it for myself most of the time for my projects. Perk of owning the business with my family lol
Let me get my stuff together and I'll email you a pic and we can go from there
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Can u post pics? I cant upload photos from my phone anymore for this site I dont know why. I got pics from motowhips and jeskemxcustoms...
Can u post pics? I cant upload photos from my phone anymore for this site I dont know why. I got pics from motowhips and jeskemxcustoms id like to share and the look im going for.
finally got my mc back in. here are pics of the brake master done, and the brembo clutch mc was already coated, i was trying to get close as i could to match...





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