Youthstream CANCELS S.African GP

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Edited Date/Time 1/24/2012 10:53pm
and it looks like the USGP is in doubt, based on the same reasoning, ie: devalued currency

from Motocross Action (online):

"Youthstream has taken the South African Grand Prix off of their 2009 GP schedule and has yet to announce a location for the scheduled September 20, 2009, United States Grand Prix.

Giuseppe Luongo, Youthstream President, said: “Due to this difficult economical moment and the devaluation of the Rand compared to the Euro, it will be not possible to organize the 2009 Motocross Grand Prix of South Africa.”

As for the USGP, most of the American motorcycle industry is waiting to see which track or promoter is willing to take the plunge. Meanwhile, the desertion of the Euro series by 250 World Champion Tyla Rattray and top-ranked Tommy Searle to the U.S. Nationals are serious blows to the GPs."
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mike868y 12/13/2008 7:57pm
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Jeez, the bad news keeps on coming. The motocross economy seems to be crumbling quickly.
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SteveS 12/13/2008 9:20pm
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Kind of hard to drive from Europe to South Africa--or the US. When money gets tight, those FedEx planes are the first to go.
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"As for the USGP, most of the American motorcycle industry is waiting to see which track or promoter is willing to take the plunge. Meanwhile, the desertion of the Euro series by 250 World Champion Tyla Rattray and top-ranked Tommy Searle to the U.S. Nationals are serious blows to the GPs."
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mxgeoff 12/13/2008 11:44pm
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Sinbad wrote:
"As for the USGP, most of the American motorcycle industry is waiting to see which track or promoter is willing to take the plunge. Meanwhile, the...
"As for the USGP, most of the American motorcycle industry is waiting to see which track or promoter is willing to take the plunge. Meanwhile, the desertion of the Euro series by 250 World Champion Tyla Rattray and top-ranked Tommy Searle to the U.S. Nationals are serious blows to the GPs."
wrong, the depth in both classes is so rich we won't even miss them. Both great racers, but people in the GP scene are looking at Philippaerts, Cairoli, De dycker and others. The GP scene is rich at the moment.

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Sinbad 12/13/2008 11:59pm
12/13/2008 11:59pm Edited Date/Time 12/13/2008 11:59pm
Sinbad wrote:
"As for the USGP, most of the American motorcycle industry is waiting to see which track or promoter is willing to take the plunge. Meanwhile, the...
"As for the USGP, most of the American motorcycle industry is waiting to see which track or promoter is willing to take the plunge. Meanwhile, the desertion of the Euro series by 250 World Champion Tyla Rattray and top-ranked Tommy Searle to the U.S. Nationals are serious blows to the GPs."
mxgeoff wrote:
wrong, the depth in both classes is so rich we won't even miss them. Both great racers, but people in the GP scene are looking at...
wrong, the depth in both classes is so rich we won't even miss them. Both great racers, but people in the GP scene are looking at Philippaerts, Cairoli, De dycker and others. The GP scene is rich at the moment.
That's not the part I wanted you to look at. It was the "As for the USGP, most of the American motorcycle industry is waiting to see which track or promoter is willing to take the plunge." Seems like people are afraid of being black balled here in the U.S or am I reading to far into this? To say you wont miss those riders is a bit dumb. Its like saying you wont miss a couple top 10 riders in the U.S.
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mxgeoff wrote:
wrong, the depth in both classes is so rich we won't even miss them. Both great racers, but people in the GP scene are looking at...
wrong, the depth in both classes is so rich we won't even miss them. Both great racers, but people in the GP scene are looking at Philippaerts, Cairoli, De dycker and others. The GP scene is rich at the moment.
Right. Just take a look at the 2009 MX1/MX2 start list :



MX2

Honda JK : Leuret
Honda NGS : Musquin, Clermont
Honda SRS : Vongsana, Avis
Honda LS : Verbruggen
Honda Latvia : Augusts

Kawa CLS : Frossard, Rombaut
Kawa Bud : Paulin
Kawa X : Butron

KTM Factory : Goncalves, Simpson
KTM Martens : Roelants, Van Horebeck, Teillet
KTM HDI : Boissière, Tonus
KTM Sarholz : Schiffer, Smitka(?)
KTM UK : Sword, Nicholls
KTM Holland : Klein Kromhof

Suz Inotec : Boog, Roczen, Kojima
Suz Beursfoon : Tarroux, Larsen
Suz Motovision : Karro
Suz Valenti : Izoird, X
Suz Delta : Maddii

Yam De Carli : Lupino
Yam Ricci : Aubin, Guarneri, Larrieu
Yam Dixon : Osborne, Pocock
Yam MD : Soubeyras, Musquin
Yam Van Beers : Bobryshev
Yam 3C : Philippaerts, Monni

TM : Michek(?)



MX1

Honda Martin : De Reuver, Strybos
Honda CAS : McKenzie, Melotte
Honda LS : Desalle
Honda Latvia : Steinbergs, Kempelis

Kawa KRT : Pourcel, Swanepoel
Kawa Bud : Vuillemin
Kawa CLS : Aranda

KTM Factory : Nagl
KTM Silver Action : Barragan, Krestinov
KTM UK : Snow

Suz Geboers : Ramon, De Dycker
Suz Motovision : Noble
Suz Delta : Correia

Yam Rinaldi : Coppins, Philippaerts
Yam De Carli : Cairoli, Leok T.
Yam Van Beers : Campano, Van Vijfeiken

Aprilia : Bill, Priem
Aprilia JK : Léonce

CCM : Rowson, Church, Dougan

TM : Leok A., Bonini
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KAWboy14 12/14/2008 6:28am
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pirates riots and poor economy will be worse next year in africa!
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vet954 12/14/2008 9:25am
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Highly doubtful the USA GP will happen. A half a million americans are losing their jobs each month.
A US promoter would have to be insane to PAY to host the event. The "average" american has never heard the word "motocross" and the majority of the core enthusiasts will spend their money attending a National MX instead of a GP held on a 100% man made track.

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crowe176 12/14/2008 9:40am
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Will Rattray and Searle ever be allowed back?
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500guy 12/14/2008 10:08am
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it will be interesting to see if the actually do have a USGP and where it will be.

I'm hoping it's on the West Coast but I doubt it, probably be a Buds Creek , I'm sure Youthstream will make some concessions to whom ever has the race in America.

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Alex 12/14/2008 11:28am
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Doubt it would be at Budds. It would be extremeley (as one person put it) 'politically incorect' for a current national promoter to accomodate YS.
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ocscottie 12/14/2008 11:34am
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mxgeoff wrote:
wrong, the depth in both classes is so rich we won't even miss them. Both great racers, but people in the GP scene are looking at...
wrong, the depth in both classes is so rich we won't even miss them. Both great racers, but people in the GP scene are looking at Philippaerts, Cairoli, De dycker and others. The GP scene is rich at the moment.
"Q: Tyla, man, how can you leave us. We will miss you in Europe"

Make up your mind Geoff.
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500guy 12/14/2008 11:51am
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Alex wrote:
Doubt it would be at Budds. It would be extremeley (as one person put it) 'politically incorect' for a current national promoter to accomodate YS.
I know Johnathan was talking to them about it at the last MXoN

Since it's not being run on a date that there is a National maybe it won't be liked but I doubt anything would happen from it, The Nationals are not in Jeopardy from Youthstream any longer.

I did get a chuckle from Geoff's interview , since he said on here Tyla won't be missed, then he begs for praise of the GP's
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mxgeoff 12/14/2008 12:14pm
12/14/2008 12:14pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 9:31pm
mxgeoff wrote:
wrong, the depth in both classes is so rich we won't even miss them. Both great racers, but people in the GP scene are looking at...
wrong, the depth in both classes is so rich we won't even miss them. Both great racers, but people in the GP scene are looking at Philippaerts, Cairoli, De dycker and others. The GP scene is rich at the moment.
ocscottie wrote:
"Q: Tyla, man, how can you leave us. We will miss you in Europe"

Make up your mind Geoff.
Tyla is a great kid, i will miss him personally, a lot of people like Tyla, but like I said the MX1 class is so loaded with talent we won't miss him on the track. I might sound dumb, but we won't.

Geoff
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mxgeoff 12/14/2008 12:19pm
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racing wise you guys sure won't missing Stewart and Reed in the nationals. although if Townley doesn't get fit, Villopoto might be just as dominant as Stewart was.

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500guy 12/14/2008 12:21pm
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mxgeoff wrote:
racing wise you guys sure won't missing Stewart and Reed in the nationals. although if Townley doesn't get fit, Villopoto might be just as dominant as...
racing wise you guys sure won't missing Stewart and Reed in the nationals. although if Townley doesn't get fit, Villopoto might be just as dominant as Stewart was.

Geoff
Very possible, I think Alessi will be able to run with Villopoto outdoors.
maybe a few others.

Sounds like Coppins might be making a return to his dominate self too ?

Truth is no matter what side of the pond we can never guess exactly how it will be.

I guess thats why we watch it
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Alex 12/14/2008 12:35pm
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Yeah I kinda thought MXA were making a little political capital out of the way they spun the story but thats to be expected. Tommy would certainly have beena title favourite and thats a loss. Tyla on the other hand, despite being a standout in MX2, would have found himself as just 1 of 15 former GP winners in MX1 for 09. No doubt the GPs loss is most definateley the AMAs gain but its not a 'seriouse blow to the series'

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