What are USA chances?

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machine 9/16/2015 6:51am
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2strokerider wrote:
strange logic - If you compare the riders from team Belgium, directly to team GB the last 6 months or so:- - simpson has beaten van...
strange logic - If you compare the riders from team Belgium, directly to team GB

the last 6 months or so:-

- simpson has beaten van hoerbeek consistently (beating him in the championship comfortably)- they have been close, but simpson has the edge

- anstie has smoked lieber (winning most races and a long way infront of him in the championship)

then you've got ken, who has been out for most of the season injured- vs dean Wilson, who has been out for most of the season. Deans been back on a bike longer. Dean has shown top 5 speed in ama since coming back and had top 10 overalls. Kens done nothing yet!!

Both of them are capable of good results - I would LOVE to see ken have a good des nations and win a moto, it might be his swan song at that level. I don't think he has many more years left getting good rides in mx1 after not putting in many good results for a long time

not saying its impossible. But I would put GB as 2nd or 3rd favourites this year. Belgian 4th- based on results and form!!! france strong favourites with America 2nd favourites (it will be close between us and them in my opinion)

its our year this year!
Fearo wrote:
Your post makes sense, maybe you guys do have the better cards this time around. it's just that, and I mean no offence to anyone, but...
Your post makes sense, maybe you guys do have the better cards this time around.

it's just that, and I mean no offence to anyone, but GB has been hyped for years and they've yet to really "do it". I wish you guys all the best and in all honesty, I hope you either win or at least beat France Laughing but I'll first have to see it to believe it.

I'm most excited for Anstie's performance really, he's had the strangest season I've ever witnessed.
It's nice to see someone other than an American and Brit going at it for once...Grinning
2strokerider 9/16/2015 7:01am
9/16/2015 7:01am
2strokerider wrote:
strange logic - If you compare the riders from team Belgium, directly to team GB the last 6 months or so:- - simpson has beaten van...
strange logic - If you compare the riders from team Belgium, directly to team GB

the last 6 months or so:-

- simpson has beaten van hoerbeek consistently (beating him in the championship comfortably)- they have been close, but simpson has the edge

- anstie has smoked lieber (winning most races and a long way infront of him in the championship)

then you've got ken, who has been out for most of the season injured- vs dean Wilson, who has been out for most of the season. Deans been back on a bike longer. Dean has shown top 5 speed in ama since coming back and had top 10 overalls. Kens done nothing yet!!

Both of them are capable of good results - I would LOVE to see ken have a good des nations and win a moto, it might be his swan song at that level. I don't think he has many more years left getting good rides in mx1 after not putting in many good results for a long time

not saying its impossible. But I would put GB as 2nd or 3rd favourites this year. Belgian 4th- based on results and form!!! france strong favourites with America 2nd favourites (it will be close between us and them in my opinion)

its our year this year!
Fearo wrote:
Your post makes sense, maybe you guys do have the better cards this time around. it's just that, and I mean no offence to anyone, but...
Your post makes sense, maybe you guys do have the better cards this time around.

it's just that, and I mean no offence to anyone, but GB has been hyped for years and they've yet to really "do it". I wish you guys all the best and in all honesty, I hope you either win or at least beat France Laughing but I'll first have to see it to believe it.

I'm most excited for Anstie's performance really, he's had the strangest season I've ever witnessed.
anstie has been super fast this year but lots of dnfs and bad races/ inconsistency has probably cost him the world title! he's won a lot more races than anyone else. Hopefully ernee will be one of his good days!!!

I think there is a bit more expectancy from the brits this year, we normally expect to finish 4th with a hope of a podium but (for me at least) I think we are genuine contenders this year. Both max and shaun have won multiple gps this year, and we all know what deano is capable of! we would stand a better chance if it was in the sand- with the race being on a hardpack circuit, in france, then it is a REALLY tall order that anyone can beat the hosts!!!

Motocross83 9/16/2015 7:20am
9/16/2015 7:20am
To be fair GB haven't been hyped for the win in decades, not even in 1994. As above, a reasonable expectation with our team is usually a top 4 or 5 with hopes of a top 3 (which we would've had last yr if not for crappy luck, though of course that's part of it). Overall Belgium are a much stronger MX nation, as are France and of course America.
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kkawboy14 9/16/2015 7:43am
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So has the Americans chances gone up or down lately?

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Jamie_Munro 9/16/2015 8:24am
9/16/2015 8:24am
Same as they were IMO

a threat

So long as Webb can keep his shit in a pile
crusty_xx 9/16/2015 8:28am
9/16/2015 8:28am
kkawboy14 wrote:
So has the Americans chances gone up or down lately?
Down imo.
Last year Dungey Tomac and Martin was an awesome team, there's no way the team this year is equally strong.
With the same team this year, they would probably be the heavy favourites.
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ATKpilot99 9/16/2015 8:34am
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kkawboy14 wrote:
So has the Americans chances gone up or down lately?
crusty_xx wrote:
Down imo. Last year Dungey Tomac and Martin was an awesome team, there's no way the team this year is equally strong. With the same team...
Down imo.
Last year Dungey Tomac and Martin was an awesome team, there's no way the team this year is equally strong.
With the same team this year, they would probably be the heavy favourites.
Probably . But I'm really looking forward to how this team will do especially Webb.
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The Truth Bringer wrote:
I'm not Carlos Macho.
The Rock wrote:
Are you carlosmacho's brother? Now that I think about maybe it was just one guy who explained away his split personality by saying it was his...
Are you carlosmacho's brother?

Now that I think about maybe it was just one guy who explained away his split personality by saying it was his brother that was so gnarly. All I know is the guy who posted pictures of shredded bodies on Motonews and then copped an attitude when yosmithy deleted them was a total wanker. The guy I defended his right t believe in creationism seem okay even if we didn't share the same philosophy on the history of the universe

Regarding our chances I would say they're as good as they've been the last three years.
I'm not who you guys think, but don't go getting patted on the back to hard.
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ATKpilot99 9/16/2015 9:15am
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The Truth Bringer wrote:
I'm not who you guys think, but don't go getting patted on the back to hard.
Is GBR a land locked island ?
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
Probably . But I'm really looking forward to how this team will do especially Webb.
Do you think there is more excitement and anticipation for this team from an American point of view than if you'd gone in with say,RV, Tomac, Dungey? I think the fact that this could literally any way adds an interesting aspect to it, rather than going in just expecting them to win
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ATKpilot99 9/16/2015 9:42am
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
Probably . But I'm really looking forward to how this team will do especially Webb.
RG1 wrote:
Do you think there is more excitement and anticipation for this team from an American point of view than if you'd gone in with say,RV, Tomac...
Do you think there is more excitement and anticipation for this team from an American point of view than if you'd gone in with say,RV, Tomac, Dungey? I think the fact that this could literally any way adds an interesting aspect to it, rather than going in just expecting them to win
Absolutely . That's the way I feel about it.
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2strokerider wrote:
strange logic - If you compare the riders from team Belgium, directly to team GB the last 6 months or so:- - simpson has beaten van...
strange logic - If you compare the riders from team Belgium, directly to team GB

the last 6 months or so:-

- simpson has beaten van hoerbeek consistently (beating him in the championship comfortably)- they have been close, but simpson has the edge

- anstie has smoked lieber (winning most races and a long way infront of him in the championship)

then you've got ken, who has been out for most of the season injured- vs dean Wilson, who has been out for most of the season. Deans been back on a bike longer. Dean has shown top 5 speed in ama since coming back and had top 10 overalls. Kens done nothing yet!!

Both of them are capable of good results - I would LOVE to see ken have a good des nations and win a moto, it might be his swan song at that level. I don't think he has many more years left getting good rides in mx1 after not putting in many good results for a long time

not saying its impossible. But I would put GB as 2nd or 3rd favourites this year. Belgian 4th- based on results and form!!! france strong favourites with America 2nd favourites (it will be close between us and them in my opinion)

its our year this year!
Fearo wrote:
Your post makes sense, maybe you guys do have the better cards this time around. it's just that, and I mean no offence to anyone, but...
Your post makes sense, maybe you guys do have the better cards this time around.

it's just that, and I mean no offence to anyone, but GB has been hyped for years and they've yet to really "do it". I wish you guys all the best and in all honesty, I hope you either win or at least beat France Laughing but I'll first have to see it to believe it.

I'm most excited for Anstie's performance really, he's had the strangest season I've ever witnessed.
From my post in another thread:

"GB could do it with 5 finishes around the top 5 mark which isn't as funny as you suggest,this is the MXdN afterall

Pourcel's tyre in 2011 burst their bubble and put them from possible victors to the worst runners up recently at 39 points

To win recent MXDN you had to beat 2nd place finishers of the following :

2011 France 39 points

2012 Belgium 29

2013 USA 30

2014 Belgium 27"

There are plenty of riders out that could make a top 5 this year,and plenty that are not on form

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Crash82 9/16/2015 1:23pm
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USA suxs these days, we will be lucky to get top 3....
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The Truth Bringer wrote:
I'm not who you guys think, but don't go getting patted on the back to hard.
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Is GBR a land locked island ?
Did Google break?
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Webb has to survive this weekend first. What happens if he doesn't.. I hope USA have a contingency plan in place. And hopefully that contingency plan goes by the initials R.C.

Lol a guy can dream right!
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I'm thinking France and England (The Queen's boys...GBR; if, you like) are the competition.

I would LOVE to see it come down to the last seconds of the last Moto...

From there, may the best riders win.
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SethGator 9/17/2015 11:01am
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little off topic, but anyone know the amount of support Kirk Gibbs will be having from KTM?
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PalerBlue 9/17/2015 11:02am
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The Truth Bringer wrote:
I'm not who you guys think, but don't go getting patted on the back to hard.
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Is GBR a land locked island ?
THAT one's going to make me chuckle for the rest of my days! Laughing

( as is his description of himself as an 'Ideas man'!!!!! )

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Sunhouse 9/17/2015 11:30am
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I think the US are the favorites to win, GB seems strong but usually has bad luck.

My only wish for the event is to hear a Frenchman on the podium say in broken English:
"I guezz sè Americàns don't want none". It doesn't matter who gets the overall, I just want to see one of them beat Webb and say that.Cool Whistling
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1-forty-8 9/17/2015 11:46am
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travis-grant wrote:
Are you going to france? I still have nobody to go with, and i cant miss our best chance to win
I would love too, but I don't even drive! If you drive I'll go Smile
benchracermx 9/17/2015 12:02pm
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TeamGreen wrote:
I'm thinking France and England (The Queen's boys...GBR; if, you like) are the competition. I would LOVE to see it come down to the last seconds...
I'm thinking France and England (The Queen's boys...GBR; if, you like) are the competition.

I would LOVE to see it come down to the last seconds of the last Moto...

From there, may the best riders win.
There's only one of the riders from england
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1-forty-8 9/17/2015 12:10pm
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benchracermx wrote:
There's only one of the riders from england
Lol more like Scotland plus 1! With this pair and Billy Mac, Scotland have done pretty good for themselves the last few years. Hats off to them.
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Seamorbutts 9/17/2015 3:08pm
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I'll state my opinion (not that It matters). That track Is probably the worst track to host the MXDN. Anstie, Simspon, Barcia, and many others thrive on rough sandy tracks. The track Is like 4 feet fucking wide too. lol.... Why In the world would they want to have it there is what I want to know? geez
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Tumblin 9/17/2015 3:26pm
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I'll chime in on our chances after this weekend...
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vschaik141 9/17/2015 4:17pm
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i'd say battle for 3rd goes between usa and switzerland
Johnny89superbike 9/17/2015 4:59pm
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1st, France.
2nd, Britain.
3rd, Switzerland.
4th, USA
5th, Australia.

My call, tell em you heard it here first ;-)
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Dx3moto 9/17/2015 5:10pm
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Is there still an age limit for the MX2 class in Europe? (I know that's why Febvre had to race the MXGP class) If it's still active, how is Musquin eligible for MX2 at the MXdN?
Sandwarrior752 9/17/2015 5:14pm
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Dx3moto wrote:
Is there still an age limit for the MX2 class in Europe? (I know that's why Febvre had to race the MXGP class) If it's still...
Is there still an age limit for the MX2 class in Europe? (I know that's why Febvre had to race the MXGP class) If it's still active, how is Musquin eligible for MX2 at the MXdN?
I was wondering the same thing so i searched a bit .. A RacerX article states the following (posted in 2013):

"The FIM was been running a 23-and-under age rule in the MX2 (250F) class for a while now in the GPs, and that rule was around in the MXoN, too—until this year, when the MX2 class will open back up to riders of any age. But only in the MXoN, as the rule stays in place for the GPs."

Looks pretty fair to me.

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